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Joe Craig
You're friends on Facebook

Lizzy Hideho
Just catching you on PM...dont worry about answering, I know you jogging and then sleep 🙂

Best place to get me.. I dont do Twitter too often
You are now connected on Messenger.
Lizzy Hideho
was just about to add you as admin and realised you are not aware of the dregs of society that may try to get in and disrupt (from Madie Case) so for your protection..lol Ill hold off until we figure it out but feel free to add people you know are interested in the case and we will approve them
Joe Craig
No problem at all , my sister I think was in your group and there is some I know on Twitter who bring up the McCann case often , my sister is on holiday but I will ask anyone on Twitter if they want to join to PM me & I'll give them a link
Lizzy Hideho
its ok for you to add them if you are confident they would like to join
whats your sister's name and is she a member now?
Joe Craig
If I add them I will make sure they are interested and wish to contribute too
Josie ( yeah I know I know haha ) I don't think she is but I'm certain she was in past
Lizzy Hideho
lol ok (I didnt ban her did I? lol
anyway BED! lololol
Im just opening a dog thread with one of my vids detailing how great they are 🙂
Joe Craig
I don't know possibly haha shes very opinionated like me ,there's another 4 in our family too but they are quieter
Lizzy Hideho
are you in the pic at the march?
Joe Craig
On the photo you put up thats me in the middle front holding placard with black jacket
Lizzy Hideho
Goodness you are worse than trying to get a child to bed... you are heading for the naughty step..lol
Joe Craig
Ok mum I'm off now hahahaha
Lizzy Hideho
lolol and yes...im old enough to be your grandma probably..lol
but I still think Im 16 🙂
Joe Craig
Don't worry do do I,and as you can see from my pic I still look it 🙂 🙂
Lizzy Hideho
haaa...havent scrutinised it yet .lol
Joe Craig
Don't do it near bedtime or u will have nightmares:)
Lizzy Hideho
lol OK...its better when I wake up?
Joe Craig
Yeah for sure 🙂
Lizzy Hideho
haaa ok

Joe Craig
H Lizzy are you in contact with the man who trains those cadaver dogs ?
I have a few questions, that idont want to ask in public but maybe you might even know the answers
Lizzy Hideho
Hi Joe ...
Joe Craig
Hi 🙂
Lizzy Hideho
i may know the answers...and havent been in touch... got a bit of flack so laying low regarding that but still here 🙂
i can probably find out
are you considering cadaver dogs?
phows it going? any news?
Joe Craig
no problem, we have a reason to believe she might have been moved about in a few different locations before being buried under concrete on a shed that was built on the property 3 years after her murder and a year after everyone had moved off the land
I am trying to get more info about them
Lizzy Hideho
i can find out...now I presume tou are wanting to know about concrete?
Joe Craig
yeah im wanting to know if she is buried under concrete would it make the dogs task impossible .. off course this is just our main guess , she could be anywhere on that land
sorry for taking so long to get back to you its been madness
Lizzy Hideho
ohh really? whats been happening?
just off the cuff I believe that concrete does not stop them BUT if wrapped in a non permeable material that may be an issue..but id have to check
Joe Craig
just Media stuff mostly and i became an admin of the main like page and im very active on forums on discussion so very active on all fronts thier
the shed we beleive was built in 1980 , 3 years after she went missing, we also have guesses to two locations she may have been held at in between her murder
and final burial
Lizzy Hideho
how thick is the concrete?
Joe Craig
i cant tell but ill send you a few photographs i took
Lizzy Hideho
Well Eddie is SPECIALLY TRAINED for concrete 🙂
Joe Craig
Lizzy Hideho
and discovered remains in Jersey under three inches...but likely it could be thicker
Lizzy Hideho
A child's remains were discovered under several inches of concrete at a former children's home in Jersey after police bought in dogs to search the site. But how can they sniff through concrete? For Eddie, it's all in a day's work. When police suspected human remains were buried on the site of a former children's home in Jersey, the springer spaniel was part of the specialist team brought in to investigate. Jersey Police said the seven-year-old dog located parts of a child's body even though they were buried under several inches of concrete. So how did he do it? THE ANSWER The dogs are highly trained using scientific techniques which look into how they smell Eddie is an enhanced victim recovery dog and is specially trained to detect the scent of human remains. He is able to smell through solid materials, like concrete, because of scientific training techniques. It's this training that sets him apart from standard police sniffer dogs, which are able to detect human remains in shallow graves. The springer's nose is more sensitive and he is called in on more complicated cases. Super sensitive The specialist training techniques - which are highly confidential - were developed by Eddie's handler Martin Grime, along with the UK's National Policing Improvement Agency (NPIA) and America's Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). They are scientifically based and rely on how dogs smell and the chemicals involved. Hunting dogs Dogs are used in hunting because of their sense of smell Canines are known for their outstanding sense of smell, estimated to be 10 times stronger than a human's. Like us they smell using special receptors in the nose, which react to tiny chemical scent particles in the atmosphere and send a message to the brain. Dogs can smell so well because they have an estimated 200 million such receptors, compared to five million in a human nose. The extra receptors mean canines are able to distinguish between different smells much more acutely. "We don't discuss what the training involves, but it's a lot more than putting bits of meat on the ground for them to hunt out," says Mr Grime, a retired South Yorkshire Police officer who now works as an independent consultant.
Joe Craig
brillaint Lizzy i will pass all this on
i think when people think of dogs they just think of normal sniffer dogs
which were used intially but lost the trace of her a few metres down the lane
Lizzy Hideho
Eddie and Keela ar the best in the world
and Martins other dog Morse was key evidence in the conviction of a father in states murdering his daughter even though her body was never found
i have a video on that if you interested
Joe Craig
yes certainly !
Lizzy Hideho
i will post all my dogs vids on here... I posted some on the group...did you see the one from years ago where three dogs discovered a murder victim 10 ft down and under loads of rotting meat? Its amazing
Joe Craig
yeah i did and was just after watching it again . it was amazing
Lizzy Hideho
the jersey one shows Keela finding the remains.. (though everyone clims it was a coconut with collagen (coconuts do not have collagen so it WAS bone...but cover up
sorry Eddie
Keela detects blood
and eddie can detect 100 year old remains
so...may I ask if you feel something happened to her in a house? If so then could blood be detected do you think?
even if very old the dogs can detect it
Joe Craig
I dont think it happend in a house , so i think the bone dog would be our best bet
Lizzy Hideho
Focus "A standard sniffer dog is like a basic tool. An enhanced dog goes through much more training and is a lot more discriminating about smells, basically its nose is super sensitive. It's also about getting the dog to really focus on a task." While rare, Eddie and partner Keela are not the only enhanced victim recovery dogs in the UK. The Metropolitan Police and forces in Surrey and Greater Manchester have them. But what sets these two springers apart is that they work exclusively in this field, says Mr Grimes. WHO, WHAT, WHY? Graphic A regular part of the BBC News Magazine, Who, What, Why? aims to answer some of the questions behind the headlines "Other dogs have to do other police duties but mine work full-time in this area, making them very sharp and highly skilled." The dogs have been used by police forces across the world and were called in to help with the Madeleine McCann investigation. Both are springer spaniels, but the breed is no better suited to the job than any other. A dog just needs to show a keen sense of smell and it's the training that makes them good enhanced victim recovery dogs, says Mr Grime. Eddie was bred by a specialist search-dog breeder and Keela came from the West Midlands Police breeding programme. Both live with Mr Grime and have a normal life outside of work. He is currently training two new dogs, Morse and Lewis. In the Jersey case, parts of a child's body were found on Saturday. The remains are thought to date from the early 1980s. Police have yet to say whether they are male or female.
Lizzy Hideho
culd it have happened along the route?
Joe Craig
yes certainly , ill send you a quick map i drew up pointing out locations
Lizzy Hideho
great
Joe Craig
on the path leading to the house circled in red you can see the roof of the shed
we do not want this information made public until the day we search this area as otherwise believe the local police may intefere with the area, they have previous on this
on that map i drew i got the eyewitness location of the tree cutter wrong he was actaully down further beside the fishermen
the suspect is on that land evey day yet he never rebuilt a house there he is even on the google earth image from the google car
Lizzy Hideho
ok...not going anywhere from me. I wouldnt jeopardise my credibility
Lizzy Hideho
thats creepy 😞
Joe Craig
yeah it sure is
he has 6 other brothers and sisters yet they never feel the need to be there every day
Lizzy Hideho
may I ask...whats the overwhelming evidence that you have that its him...or is it just everythig points to it?
Joe Craig
ive got to go in a wee second but will be back on , he was sexually abusing the other twin so we believe her too, the childs mother (his sister) has told people - including cops - for years that she knows its him , in the inital days his own family said it was him but they have all sice closed ranks around him . obviously we cant reveal all this or it prejudices trials
Joe Craig
need to go just now back soon
Lizzy Hideho
ok...thanks

Lizzy Hideho
Hi Joe...sorry havent been much help or been around... busy with stuff... Hows it going? I see Gemma is planning a piece on Maddie?
I actually couldnt remember your name..lol but found you eventually :(+) sorry
have you made any new findings?
Have you searched the shed?
Joe Craig
We have had 2 witnesses come forward that said they found Mary's cardigan, we can't get near the shed he's not allowing us on his land, yes I see her making connecting between Gerry mccanns family being from Donegal, ... I went to the same secondary school as Gerry McCann , tits be hard pushed to find someone there that doesn't have relations in Donegal, and it's been known for years
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Re:jc mb

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 so will the cardigans help?
we are a lot slower right now... and Marys anniversary soon?
is there anyting i can do to help?
you know...with the political interference with Maddie and things being kept quiet.. I knda wonder if both cases are more closely linked that i fist thought 😞
im watching the doc again...right now in fact as I have forgotten a lot and need to get up to speed on it
is Gemma approachable...I seem to recall shes not
Joe Craig
She will be approachable if she thinks that you are of use
There is many similarities in both cases I don't think for a minute they are linked though
Lizzy Hideho
well there is nowhere ANYWHERE that has the saved info etc on Mddie case...
ohh def not linked... just a lot of paralells
i wouldnt mind contacting her...an Im the 'go to' for info on the case... been saving stuff for 10 yers
Joe Craig
We are having a protest outside the coroner's office to mark the 41st anniversary of Mary going missing in march, they keep refusing us an inquest which if done right would show all the lies
Lizzy Hideho
i saw that...
just recently I tried to help Katrice Lee case...the little 2 year old from germny missing from Naafi...was willing to do all i could...vids etc... I tried but the sister refused me except afew things...so sad...
her father etc were asking me to help but promised i would not cross any lines and had to bow out 😞
so I guess there are no released files then...
i sent years comparing all the statement timelines resultig in abot 50 discrepancies that were major...many of them
can you petition for an inquest...but i guess you need 10,000 to be heard and 100,000 for it to be debated?
Joe Craig
We have an online petition but it doesn't have the same effect as UK government ones
We tried to start a UK government one as Mary was born in Birmingham, but we were refused
Lizzy Hideho
i see more than half million views on Gemmas documentary
Joe Craig
We also contacted Scotland yard etc and were basically turned away by them all
Lizzy Hideho
and media?
Joe Craig
Yes it's reached a big audience , it contains the core truth
Lizzy Hideho
what would REALLY hel to get the change needed?Peole/Politicians?
Media?Police?
Joe Craig
I've worked with the star ( which is more respectable in Ireland then UK version) the Sunday world, Irish mirror and local newspapers recently and I was on a very popular phone in show too
Politicans
The problem is we have a power sharing government
Lizzy Hideho
what about the one and called to demand he wasnt arrested?
guess he wont talk..lol
im in canada so not familiar with brit and ireland politishians
Joe Craig
So the party that interfered in our case initials FF are in power with the other main party FG, so FG won't call them out like they might have done had they still been an opposition party
Lizzy Hideho
haaaa i realy can spell..lol politicians..
Joe Craig
Sinn Fein speak up for us but anytime they do it is brought up their recent bloody history
Even though FF & FG were born from the war of independence less then 100 years ago
Lizzy Hideho
if you had the chance what would be the ONE THING that you feel would help more than anything?
Joe Craig
The one who made the call has since died
Lizzy Hideho
ok....so is that good or bad?
do you think it has buse as the core issue?
Joe Craig
The one thing would be an arrest and a real interrogation of our main suspect.. And his wife too
It's good that he died as some protection will have gone with him
Lizzy Hideho
but the chances of an arrest is inlikely with the cover up
Joe Craig
Very unlikely, they won't even let us search the land she went missing from which he now owns
Lizzy Hideho
so...and forgive me if I sound naive... could/would the investigating officers first on the scene be able to address he stopped th arrecst?
Joe Craig
I have him and his wife on video promising we could search anytime
Lizzy Hideho
you know... Gemma has clout on vids and maybe in other areas... I have a wide audience and now if she does the doc... we can maybe use the huge maddie support?
Joe Craig
I only today got the main Garda on the case phone number, he is long retired and has fell out with Gemma over the documentary, hopefully he will speak to me
Lizzy Hideho
remind me...you her cousin?
Joe Craig
I can't work with Gemma I'm sorry, I've spoke to her on the phone a few times since but once burned twice shy
Yes I'm Mary's cousin in her father's side
Lizzy Hideho
soyou saying shes difficult?
well her mothers side sounds questionable
Joe Craig
Yes her mother's side is and our side are too quiet as well
She's very difficult
Lizzy Hideho
may i ask in which way difficult?
Joe Craig
But she will probably be fine with McCann supporters, it's the families she causes tension with, ie every family she had worked with over here
Lizzy Hideho
i work with 9News in Australia (noone knows) that cvers the case.... not sure if they would have any suggestions...
Joe Craig
Very controlling, manipulative, a backstabber, she isn't impartial like a journalist should be, very very hotheaded, libel happy , ... She had zero respect amongst her colleagues here
Lizzy Hideho
i say 'work' i mean i provide nfo on maddie case...thats all..lol
Joe Craig
She has bought a lot of online movie awards for the documentary
Lizzy Hideho
ok...so best stay clear then
Joe Craig
I can't see her bringing anything new to the case
By all means deal with her as you should be fine as your not family
But I'd be very very surprised if she comes up with anything new on this case
I hope she does but can't see it
Lizzy Hideho
well my names out there and everyone knows ive got more info saved than anyone...so she hasnt approached and im notinterested n lible or speculation
Joe Craig
She was a travel editor for the vast majority of her career
Lizzy Hideho
she wont know any more than we have discussed for 10 years...lol
Joe Craig
Speculation is her forte
Lizzy Hideho
not interestd then...I only deal with facts.. and respect
Joe Craig
She certainly won't, she will bring out old facts and try and put a twist to them as if they are new
Lizzy Hideho
ok so we shouldnt exect much then...Ill stay away
Australia 9 news ONLY stick to facts which I love...
so i guess no luck with dogs...especially if you cant get to the land
Im guessing that you are adverse to being linked to Maddie case?
Joe Craig
Like today she put an old article up where they interviewed Marys mum about Maddie, it was mentioned that Gerry has relations nearby ( which is very common for Glasgow - Donegal) and Marys mother said she would know some distant relatives.. in those areas everyone knows each other. Gemma said that the article said Mary's mother knew the McCann's .. Anyone that read the screenshot could read themselves she didn't say that
Joe Craig
And I'm no fan of Marys mother
Not adverse at all no
We have links with other murdered and missing groups
Lizzy Hideho
ohh ok...cos as I mentioned... Katrices sister was finding the PMs from Maddie suporters was more than she could handle so I had to make sure it wasnt connected and she wouldnt allow a website that had all the info.. (which I wanted to do)
do you have a website?
its past being a missing child... I would say its more about a cover up as being the focal point
Joe Craig
No we only use a blog that I helped the Creator with
Lizzy Hideho
so YOU may be ok with the connection...what about her sister and family?
i dont want to cross any lines
Joe Craig
It's something I could use is someone who could make posters for the upcoming March which I could then have printed
It's only her twin that I deal with and she would be fine too
Mary is often referred to as Ireland's Madeline McCann anyway
Lizzy Hideho
i do lotsof graphics but not sure how helpful with posters... My son is an artist...but not sure
ok...so... SUPPOSING i created a video...focusng on the POLITICAL cover up (not saying i can do it any time soon...but just as an example)...how would that be?
Joe Craig
I could probably do it myself, I don't need to much graphic just more text to save on printing cost etc
Lizzy Hideho
supposing i created a WEBSITE with all the info in one place?
Joe Craig
That would be fine I have no problem with that at all
Yes all that would be great too
Lizzy Hideho
i can do text
with a pic... if you have an idea what you want i dont mind at all putting a graphic together..and you can see if its anyting of interest to you
now the issue also is a lot of the PRO mccanns cause aggro when I am involved in any case... can you handle that?
Joe Craig
I can handle anything I think after the last couple years 🙂
Lizzy Hideho
why specifically the last couple years? May I ask?
one of my admi has just headed to bed with gemma doc...so if she has questions..may I ask you?
Joe Craig
yes off course
its only the last couplpe of years i have been aware of what happened in marys case
Lizzy Hideho
ohh really... what were your thoughts before?
Joe Craig
when we were kids growing up in scotland we were told the "gypsies" took her, then there was a lot of speculation that Scottish serial killer Robert Black took her
Lizzy Hideho
so was that just cos you were kids or did a lot of the public think that way?
what finally changed your mnd?
Joe Craig
I found out there was a doc coming out and got in touch with Gemma and she was wildly enthusiastic as Ann had no other vocal support from within the family this is when we were told what Ann had been told growing up, that it was her uncle
Lizzy Hideho
with THAT knowledge we can maybe place focus on what changed your thoughts
o specifically you... just th knowledge
Joe Craig
then just before the documentary came out Gemma came turned against us
Lizzy Hideho
ohh...so this has only ben in spotlight for lastcouple years?
why did she turnagainst you?
Joe Craig
and after the documentary she turned against anyone who was recieving media attention , so me , the lady who organised the first march , and the man who started the justice for mary boyle facebook page
she demanded he make her full admin of the page by midnight or she would sue him
he handed the page to me instead
Lizzy Hideho
ok...well thanks for that info...ill be very careful then..lol
what about Marys sister... is she aproachable or best not to?
Joe Craig
she then released statemement after statement trying to blacken my name , marys twin Ann fell out with her at roughly the same time they havent spoken since but have not made public the split
Lizzy Hideho
i dont want to tead on ANYONES toes
Joe Craig
her sister is approachable yes but can be very shy till you get to know her
and she doesnt like being in the limelight of things
Lizzy Hideho
ohh thats ok...i can understand that... i wont intimidate her... I CANT..lol even if I knew how 🙂
i understand...
i see she was abused by the uncle also?
has she done anything about that?
Joe Craig
Gemma wont step on the toes of any of the supporters on the mccann case
she cant remember if she was abused or not
Lizzy Hideho
ok...hmmmm...
i have a voice in the case... so shed better not tread on mine..lol
Joe Craig
if she tries be sure to let her know her place
Lizzy Hideho
ahh fair enough...but she remembers Mary? or is that vague also?
Joe Craig
no she remembers her very well
Lizzy Hideho
i mean the secxual abuse? she reembers seeing it?
Joe Craig
she thinks mary would speak out if she was being abused which is maybe why she was took away
no she doesnt
Lizzy Hideho
ahh so speculation that COULD be a motive
Joe Craig
she was abused later by my grans neighbour too
Lizzy Hideho
ohhh for goodness sake 😞
Joe Craig
and as you know kids can block out tramautic experiences
Lizzy Hideho
ohh yes...its not something i would approach directly with her...
Joe Craig
I asked the uncle gerry did abuse happen in this house ( we were standing at the family house that mary went missing from) his answer was "not that i know off"
Lizzy Hideho
apart from leaflets... what do you think you would like me to get made publicly known?
not tht he knew of????? geez...
are there other recording of him on vids?
Joe Craig
yeah i thought that a strange answer its not the answer i would give about my childhood home
i have it all on video
Lizzy Hideho
i should be careful to use Gemmas... do you know of others?
Joe Craig
him and his wife then called the cops on me
use gemmas what sorry?
Lizzy Hideho
oohh golly... so we know why
well IF i made a doc I would rather use other newsreel as opposed to Gemmas clips as shemay not be happy
do you spek with Ann now?
what about those other friends/relatives in the video?
Joe Craig
gemma took those clips from the national broadcaster here RTE ,, she then complained about the bill and started a fundraiser for it , she has never announced the end of that fund rasier, she also smuggled out more footage from RTE
ill find you some RTE links on youtube
Gemma has no rights to any of them
heres one with the uncle
Lizzy Hideho
ohh smashing... I have used rte on my vids...but often copyright just adds monetisation or restrictions and adverts...
the one with your uncle..is that the one you were telling me about?
Joe Craig
i know this journalist so i could ask her is it ok if you use it
yes , not my uncle, but marys
Lizzy Hideho
ohh would be great...or ask if I can contact her? I try to be careful and respectful
whats her name?
Joe Craig
if you want to contact her she is on twitter - nicola Tallant
Lizzy Hideho
can i mention your name?
i would need her to follow me if i was to contact her so may be difficult... Inot doing anything on open twitter
ill follow her and if you could speak with her...that would be great
Joe Craig
yes off course
Lizzy Hideho
i need to get up to par on watcing the video and the case again
Joe Craig
Gemma smuggled out all the old RTE documentaries and reuploaded them but i think it was on vimeo
Lizzy Hideho
ok...so she is def questionable... journos shoud have ethics
onw would hppe
Joe Craig
she is 100% unethical
which is why when she was sacked other journos didnt stand by her
so she has a MASSIVE chip on her shoulder
Lizzy Hideho
well...she may get weeded out from maddie supporters...we all know the score and if she gets anything wrong... she will lose credibility
Joe Craig
thats her fake twitter she used to upload videos im blocked from it so cant get on to find the videos
she also made a fake account on behalf of marys twin then blocked me from it too
Lizzy Hideho
ohh dear
Joe Craig
she has really damaged so many campaigns here
Lizzy Hideho
im staying away...but she has no idea the ride shes in for with maddie groups...we dont suffer fools gladly
Joe Craig
the men that found the cardigan first went to her over a year ago . she told them to forget about it that it wasnt significant!
she still hasnt mentioned it
Lizzy Hideho
where was it fond?
and when?
Joe Craig
it was found the next day after mary went missin near a lake near the house
the police took it away but no trace of it has ever been found
Lizzy Hideho
so was the lake dredged?
Joe Craig
I had to track the 2 men down
Lizzy Hideho
is this a corrupt investigation?
or just a cover up at high levels and if so....why?
Joe Craig
yes eventually but according to the police diver at the time only the sides of the lake was searched initially
I think a level of corruption for sure but also just very amateur policework
Lizzy Hideho
77 investigations were
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77 investigations were not as good as they are now
Joe Craig
no.. and Ireland wasnt a place where this stuff happened
the police werent ready for it
Lizzy Hideho
so have i got it right.... th case 'died' and was not in media for many years before the doc?
Joe Craig
yes basically, there would be the odd documentary every few years and the video i sent you above was from a newspaper investigation a few years ago
Lizzy Hideho
so Gemmas documentary brought it to light again? If thats the case then one thing to thank her for
Joe Craig
yes for sure
Marys twin Ann and marys cousin Margo were recomennded her
but she said things in that youtube video that no TV station would air
but we needed that
Lizzy Hideho
well im going to have a think... i have till march...and will see what i can do in the meantime....
who Gemma said things or Marys cousin?
well this is the point... I ant do a slick video like hers...but I CAN get the info out there...
maybe give me a list of what you want known and is OK to put online with no libel
Joe Craig
here is another video of the mother where she admits she knows mary is dead .. yet one of the reasons the coroner wont give us an inquest is because he said it would be detrimental to marys mothers health to think of Mary as being dead as she clings to the hop that she is alive
Lizzy Hideho
and THATS the reason..yeah right
Joe Craig
the main thing really is we cant mention the suspects name because if it does go to court that gives him reason to say he cant have a trial due to prejudiced social media
Lizzy Hideho
Can you do that for me... just list what NEEDS to be known about the case that would shock people if they knew... THAT wou be a good angle fr a vid I think
no names mentioned... I wouldnt release a vid without your approval
Joe Craig
the stable horse has kind of already bolted with that one as there is people all over gemmas page forever naming him but it is a rule i still stick by
Lizzy Hideho
and i would too
Joe Craig
yes if you give me time to think on it I will give you the main bulletin points that id like to get across
Lizzy Hideho
so NO plice files or official declarations?
well...there we go... I CAN be of use 🙂
but isnt it past your bedtime?
Joe Craig
of course , id very much welcome it
Lizzy Hideho
do i have to send you to the naughty step again?lolol
Joe Craig
its late but i napped lol
Lizzy Hideho
ohh haaa...i have a lot of those now im retired..lol
Joe Craig
i dont even have that excuse 🙂 🙂
Lizzy Hideho
lolol...i didnt mean to insinuate that.lol
Joe Craig
no i know hahaha
Lizzy Hideho
icant recall what you lok lik either...im hopeless
and its not important...
speak to 'people'...
its a bit like the Voice..lol
Joe Craig
think of a fat ben affleck lol
Lizzy Hideho
cant even remember what Ben affleck looks like so no help..lolol
Joe Craig
hahahaha
Lizzy Hideho
but no matter...would be great if you could do that list...
Joe Craig
I will do for sure just need to get my thoughts clear
Lizzy Hideho
once i get stared i get passionate..if i start and lay it down i find it difficult to get back to
Joe Craig
i know what you mean i can be the same
Lizzy Hideho
yes...you need a vid to focus on the SHOCKING facts....
take it away from a missing girl
bit like Genmma did insinuate in her doc
Joe Craig
right away the 2 I already have mentioned, that her cardigan was found the next day and isnt in police evidence
and the mother refusing an inquest
she shouldnt have those rights
Lizzy Hideho
cant recall the father....
Joe Craig
and she is contradicted on video when she said she knew mary was dead and that was decades ago
Lizzy Hideho
ok...so ill get those clips together
Joe Craig
the father, my uncle died whilst fishing at sea in the ealry 2000s
Lizzy Hideho
what were hs thoughts on it?
Joe Craig
ill try find you the coroners letter where he states about it affecting the mothers mental health
he was a very quiet very brooding man
Lizzy Hideho
wonderful...ANY facts I can use... otherwise i have to make disclaimers
Joe Craig
his death was ruled accidental , personally i dont think it was i think he had had enouigh. but his daughter -marys twin_ doesnt like to think that
Lizzy Hideho
was his wife a good choice in marriage?
ok
and HER dad abused Ann?
Joe Craig
no sorry it wasnt her dad abused ann
it was anns grandmas neighbour
Lizzy Hideho
ahhhh
i meant the mothers dad...sorry got it wrong
Joe Craig
its very easy to confuse not to worry
Lizzy Hideho
so grandmas on her mothers sides neighbour...
Joe Craig
i just noticed the coroner called Marys mother "annie" in that letter.. I have never heard her referred to that
no on our side
and the guy was a "little person"
Lizzy Hideho
ohh is tere a beginning to that letter? Even if not needed it looks good to have it all
litle ass in smal..or a dwaerf?
Joe Craig
when ann jr told her mother what had happened her mother told her to be quiet and be thankful that it wasnt a "fully grown man that broke her in "
this is what we are dealing with here
yeah
that was the excuse his lawyers gave that he couldnt have a proper sexual relationship due to his sioze
Lizzy Hideho
how AWFUL for her...and Im guessing shes never received counselling?
Joe Craig
size*
i dont think so no
Lizzy Hideho
ohh gimme a break
Joe Craig
i dont even know if she was part of prosecution against him
Lizzy Hideho
mind you...things were different back then...well depending on when it happened
Lizzy Hideho
SOOO many people go through abuse and live with it their entire life
Joe Craig
I know it is awful
Lizzy Hideho
ill read that after...just awful
so...is it KNOWN that the politian died..or is something to not adress... just that it happened with no furthr details?
Joe Craig
oh yeah it was quite high profile that he died as he collapsed on holiday in spain on the beach
Lizzy Hideho
but thaat would name him right? and not alowed to name him
Joe Craig
no you can name the politican, you cant libel the dead, I named him even before he died
Sean McEniff
who called himself the Irish Donald Trump
as he owned a large chain of hotels
Lizzy Hideho
ok...so to name him as allegedly calling to stop thearrest... have to be careful
there is nothing in fact about him calling?
Joe Craig
Gemma published video of the Garda on the case saying he did phone and intefere with the case
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ohh ok
Joe Craig
the garda had denied this after the documentary where it was only inferred that this happened and no one was named
Lizzy Hideho
ill watch her stuff then try to get original vids
Joe Craig
I wouldnt worry about using her videos , she has no issue on using others 🙂
Lizzy Hideho
lol...thing is... she could have me losed down with ONE letter... if i have another copyright already
Joe Craig
i understand
and she would as well
she has a lot of money as she won her court case for unfair dismissal plus she is a widow
use any photos you wish from our page
Lizzy Hideho
nearly lost my channel when 7 news in Australia intervieewed Pat Brown... Pat sued them and they put their lawyers on me..lol
Joe Craig
yeah I know what youtube can be like
that link should have took you to our photo section I dont know why it didnt
another shocking fact is
Joe Craig
when that newspaper did their investigation a few years ago . they spoke to a local man who recalled a freshly dug hole .. the newspaper brought in a scanning company who found anomalies in the land , they were preparing to have an archalogical type dig when 2 police men turned up unannounced one day in a JCB and overturned the whole field
Lizzy Hideho
sorry..laptop froze on me
Joe Craig
so if there was evidence there they would have wrecked it
no problem
Lizzy Hideho
ohhh good grief...
now if you have ANY links to proof of these things happening that would be great... but no worries if not... ill just have t use alleged...lol
its ok..ill find the photos...
Joe Craig
i will link you no problem
Lizzy Hideho
i lost the pic of the uncle on google... Ohh maybe i have it
can i use it? lol
Lizzy Hideho
ol...i made it a pic but lost it...ill take again
Joe Craig
the obnudsman has never gave their verdict on this AFAIK
Lizzy Hideho
OK
we have a lot to work with here...maybe ill make several mini clips...
Joe Craig
Donal McIntyre the journalist mentioned there who worked on the case at that time is VERY high profile in the UK as well as Ireland
Lizzy Hideho
one of my video 'thingys' is that i take a lot of trouble to add apporopriate vids and use the lines that fit... so the vids can tell the story... so ill try to fnd a good one 🙂
ohh yes...we know him from mccann case
Joe Craig
I understand , there is no rush
Lizzy Hideho
has panorama ever done a doc?
Joe Craig
i am told he is having a mid life crisis at the moment 🙂
No british media have ever reported on it to any national extent
despite her being a joint British/Irish citizen by birth
Lizzy Hideho
well... i will send it to panorama and richard Bilton...he likes facts...
Joe Craig
yes please do
Lizzy Hideho
in fact in the last apnorama on maddie he exposed that he was asked by team mccann to spy for them on robert murat the other arguido...
amazing
Joe Craig
my sister was in touch with a investigator an ex cop , i cannot remember his name and he seemed very interested but then just faded away
wow
Joe Craig
Mark william Thomas he was called
Lizzy Hideho
ohhh haaaaa.. well he did the savile thing... ut he IS on video saying the mccanns should be worruied
then he said about she walked out of the apartment...we not happy with him
Joe Craig
who is this sorry ?
Lizzy Hideho
MWT
Joe Craig
right so we maybe dodged a bullet there
Lizzy Hideho
well he CAN be good...but McCanns have him...well they likely dont like him now...lol
hes a possibility in this case I guess
but have a look at that video... it was their private detectives that offered Bilton a deal to spy
shocking facts about them and the millions they have spent to protect themselves.... BUT...
Joe Craig
another thing is we were promised a search of the land where mary went missing, we had the cadaver dogs ( m sure the same ones used in the mccann case) and a scanning company lined up to come in , the gards promised us we could go in but they had to watch in case it turned into a crime scene, but then Gerry refused us permission and the gards said they would do it themselves , with no dogs and their own scanning machine. that was a year and a half ago . they have done nothing since
Lizzy Hideho
did you see about th mccanns suing the cop in charge of the case for 1 million punds?
Joe Craig
yes i read something about it
i just subscrided to your channel
Lizzy Hideho
they sued him...initially he lost.... and they had froen all his money and his pension... so couldnt afford an appeal...
we launched a gofund me and raised 52,000 poud (my group in particular as wel as others)...and he appealed and WON!
click the bell if you want notifications... just fond that out
Joe Craig
yes i did read that, that was great work yous did
Lizzy Hideho
we CAN make a difference
and with the freedom to help you...noting is really impossible as there is no real news about maddie right now...i have no prob supporting you
Joe Craig
I have audio you might be interested in too
thank you !
Lizzy Hideho
ohh great... ANYTHING you can send me is great
do you speak with Ann?
Joe Craig
I dont think its on this computer but I uploaded it to soundcloud
yes all the time
the audio is fo marys mother phoning a much listened to radio phone in here saying that basically her daughter ws acting ridicolous by running to westminster & the Dail etc
not those words exactly but along those lines
Lizzy Hideho
could you tell her from me that im sooo sorry what she has gone through all this time...and I will do EVERYTHING i can to helpfind the truth about her little sister... I care... we ALL care xxx
Joe Craig
I certainly will off course, add her if you like, and chat to her
Lizzy Hideho
whats her profile addy?
Lizzy Hideho
ok...thanks
Joe Craig
no problem
Lizzy Hideho
and if you could tell her also so she knows who i am..lol
ill try and be gentle with her...she looks a lovely soul
Lizzy Hideho
and been through more than she deserves
Lizzy Hideho
hang on...the mother is called Ann also?
Lizzy Hideho
ok...ill settle down and listen to them all soon... so i get a good overall picture..and inspiration fr a video and the tune im going to use 🙂
Joe Craig
if you listen to that interview you will hear the mother getting increasingly angry
Lizzy Hideho
ok..ill make that clear then
Joe Craig
ok take it easy and thanks for everything xx
Lizzy Hideho
thank you Joe... Little mary needs us all on her side and if I can help in ANY way...im here xx
Joe Craig
Thank you very much xx
Lizzy Hideho
poor little mite..what she must have gone through.... so sad
well...im off to watch Dr Phil or Come dine with me..lol...rest the brain 🙂
Joe Craig
thats is a good idea, playstation for me , to distract the brain lol
Lizzy Hideho
i used to LOVE plaing my sons nintendo...he was young so id sit at the bottom of his bed and get to next level...then keep playing..lol
Joe Craig
it helps me relax takes you out of the world for a wee while 🙂
Lizzy Hideho
hes 31 now..lol
yes... we MUST look after ourselves or we cant help others
Joe Craig
very very true
Lizzy Hideho
i am probably the happiest person I know... and I plan on staying that way 🙂
Joe Craig
thats great to hear, a very positive outlook
Lizzy Hideho
i love every day... every day is precious to me and good friends and family around me... I havent got much else but its all i need 🙂
Joe Craig
again very very true, a great outlook
Lizzy Hideho
well...i wouldnt mind looking like i did in my 0s...lol
20s..lol
Joe Craig
you arent the only one there 🙂
Lizzy Hideho
did i show you my business?
Joe Craig
no
Lizzy Hideho
ohhh darn!
photobucket removed all pics suddenly...free one min now they want $400 to host on internet... but you can read about me
i paint metal to look like wood...
Joe Craig
thats brilliant!
any chance of a job 🙂
only joking , my work is here finding Mary
Lizzy Hideho
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so's mine now..lol
Joe Craig
welcome aboard 🙂
Joe Craig
that looks amazing !
Lizzy Hideho
lol yes...ive had lots of news articles about me
Joe Craig
all good im sure 🙂
Lizzy Hideho
1982..lol
thats my dad that taught me and now ive taught my son
Joe Craig
i was 2 🙂
thats brillaint
Lizzy Hideho
i was 32..lol
Joe Craig
i work with stone, cutting and building old style stone walls
Lizzy Hideho
just turned 68... thats not supposed to happen! lol
Joe Craig
it creeps up on you
Lizzy Hideho
its fun...but then you realise its not forever..lol
anyway... Dr Phil calling... ill catch you later...thanks so much
Joe Craig
no problem , enjoy the good doctor 🙂
Lizzy Hideho
lol
say Hi to Ann for me 🙂
Joe Craig
I will do
Lizzy Hideho
chat later...hopefully not long enough that i forget your name again and cat find you..lolol
cant
Joe Craig
hahaha i wont let you this time lol
Lizzy Hideho
goodo...no...cos when you get inspiration to add to the list...just add... i may not be able to chat but its a good place to save when you think of somethig or find somethig of interest...including the beginning of that letter about inquest

Lizzy Hideho

Joe Craig
Yes that's him, on the land Mary went missing which he tends to most days but hasn't built a house on

Lizzy Hideho
I cant see it on google...has it been whooshed..? I went to the link you gave before and its not there
i saved those pics from before

Joe Craig
you have to to a certain part on google maps to see it
but google maps does update every few years
Lizzy Hideho
yes...but i was looking at same year 2010
the road stops...it doesnt go all the way round the rad
do you know the actual location it was taken?
Joe Craig
after that fence it is the private lane leading to the now derelict house which was Mary Grandprents
so thats the same land she was took from
Lizzy Hideho
can you have a look and see if its still there?
Joe Craig
yes ill try now
Joe Craig
yes it seems to be away , you used to be able to go further up to the gate , but google earth can be really quirky , if you go further back you can see his jeep but its from 2011
he may have asked for it to be brought down
Lizzy Hideho
sept option int there now...odd cos they have april
Joe Craig
in my own street it starts of 2010 and at the end its 2015
Lizzy Hideho
isnt there
so you think its been removed?
Joe Craig
I do yeah
Lizzy Hideho
well... I have it 🙂
and i think everyone will find it as creepy as I did
so did google have to turn round at that point...or have they just removed the curved part of the road?
Joe Craig
you can see his van driving up the lane in this one from 2011
why own all that land since 1980 or so and not keep the house in good repair even though he is there every day
he rents houses out elsewhere
Lizzy Hideho
so google had to stop there on that road or did it originally go all the way round?
Joe Craig
it has to stop as it is private property after the fence
Lizzy Hideho
the fence is inside his property but is the road that google was recording...is it private property after the fence (without going through the fence?
what location were both of those pics of his van taken
Joe Craig
google can only record on public property
Lizzy Hideho
so how did they knowto stop and turn round near the fence? I see no signs
Joe Craig
the link i just sent you was on the road approaching that farmhouse before the gate
he was there that day , and they will know if there is a fence that its private property
Lizzy Hideho
but there was no fence in the last screenshots that google took
is the fence he was seen in im 2010...on that road? I couldnt see it
Joe Craig
google wil know whats private land and whats not they will have it mapped out
Lizzy Hideho
so is the pic of hi taken in sept 2010 BEFORE the area they stoped?
Joe Craig
I don't know
Lizzy Hideho
sec...that shows april
Joe Craig
I know that before you could only see him from a certain angle, my laptop is slowing up so I'm doing a disk wipe on it and I'll try again
Lizzy Hideho
i managed to find 2010 sept... but it disappears when you travel..and i cant find the gate
well basically im just trying to find out if it has been removed specifically... I ee the cows along the road but i cant find that fence and wondered if that road (the curved part) has been removed
whether google travelled further down the road but has been removed
Joe Craig
its an area I have only been to once but I wouldnt say any of the road has been removed
Lizzy Hideho
well...i cant find the fence he was seen behind
Joe Craig
its maybe tied back the way ?
Lizzy Hideho
tied back the way?
ive travelled the road both sides and cant find it...yet anyway
Joe Craig
yes opened inwards and tied to a post or something to let his tractors and jeeps in and out
it was there when i was there in 2016
Lizzy Hideho
if its NOT there anymore then it would appear to have specifically removed
on google im talking about
Joe Craig
thats the last thing he would want because they made it very clear to me that it was private property beyond there and it belonged to them
Lizzy Hideho
so Google went far enough up the road in 2010 to see the fence with him behind it...but didnt go far enough up the road in Oct to get to the gate?
Joe Craig
maybe he was in the photo in oct and asked for it to be removed
Lizzy Hideho
so the only accessible to Google part of the road is what is sown here?
Joe Craig
yes, after that its a private lane roughly the same size to the house
Lizzy Hideho
the rest of that road is private property?
both sides?
Joe Craig
yes both sides
he farms on the right side as your looking from the google view on the left side is where mary went missing
Lizzy Hideho
ok... but seems that the photo has been removed...maybe because asked... but never mind...i have it..lol
Joe Craig
yeah thats the main thing 🙂
Lizzy Hideho
lol
and forgive me for being so specific... i was only trying to establish how contrived it was to remove google views further up the road.. (we dont know if that fence is further up the road thats no longer accessible...or whether he..or someone...asked for it to be removed
i find that is important...
or MAY be important
Joe Craig
I understand , my guess is that he asked for it to be removed
Lizzy Hideho
yes
welll....tough..lol
Joe Craig
yeah you cant delete the internet 🙂
Lizzy Hideho
and I screenshot as much as I can IN CASE the internet removes anything 🙂
as you can see 🙂
btw...i didnt watch Dr Phil...i watched the last hour of Gemmas doc last night..lol
Joe Craig
the red rectangle square and the green circle is the route where Mary is said to have dissapered
we need Dr Phils help! 🙂
I am going to phone the policeman sgt collins tonight for the first time
he has fell out with Gemma since the doc , both the ex gards have, the other one has took a nervous breakdown
Lizzy Hideho
ohh...so what do you hope t 'get' from him?
ive forgotten which one he is...
Joe Craig
im not really sure to be honest , I think he has told all he can even if he has retracted some
the one with the white hair
I need to here his point of view myself
hear*
Lizzy Hideho
so why did he fall out with Gemma? She showed him in a good light didnt she?
you are talking one of the two cps that believe it was uncle?
Joe Craig
in this case I think Gemma was in the right , they didnt want their ex boss who had passed away to be shown in a bad light so they both issued statements distancing themselves from the doc in the days after it was released
but gemma has since released video of collins actually naming McEniff as being the politican who rang the gardai
Lizzy Hideho
cant remember about their ex boss... i tried to take it all in but need to rewatch again
Joe Craig
im not sure myself how far she goes into it in the documentary but he was a hopeless alcoholic and gambler who was heavily in debt to mceniff
i think she only showed an interview with him that completley contradicts the offical report
RTE in 1985 made a documentary about how the same police station was under the control of local politicans including mceniff
Lizzy Hideho
sorry..sec..on phone
Lizzy Hideho
ok great... ill check them all out at the same time so I understand and reain the inf better...having them all in context... thanks
Joe Craig
No problem
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