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Gerry and Kate woke at 7.30 - 8.00am, washed the children and had breakfast between 8.00 and 8.30. The food had been previously bought by them both at Baptiste supermarket.
During breakfast, Madeleine asked Kate why she had not gone into her room when the twins were crying,(Kate told Fiona that Madeleine asked her why when Madeleine and Sean were crying)
however, Gerry claims Madeleine asked HIM why he hadnt gone in when the twins were crying (but 6 days later he changed it to Madeleine asking Kate why she didnt go in when Madeleine and Sean were crying )-
During breakfast. "She noticed a stain, supposedly of tea, on Madeleine’s pijama top, which she washed a little later that same morning. She hung it to dry on a small stand, and it was dry by the afternoon. Madeleine sometimes drank tea; the stain did not appear during breakfast, maybe it happened another day, as Madeleine did not have tea the previous night and the stain was dry."
According to Kate, "After breakfast they got dressed and left the apartment by the main door. All children went walking. The verandah door was closed and locked; she doesn’t know whether the main door was locked or unlocked."
Gerry describes differently, "after breakfast, about 09h00, KATE and the children left by the rear door, he having left by the front door, which he locked with the key, having also closed and locked the rear door from the inside."
Matthew, Rachael and G***e went to the Millennium Restaurant for breakfast, as they did each morning. There wasn’t anybody else there, they had breakfast on their own. There were people at the other tables but it was fairly quiet, and none of the other group were there initially. They were always fairly early because G***e was always awake earliest, always by half six or six o’clock and she’d be sort of sparky and awake and wanting to get up and so they'd sort of trudge on and they might even be banging on the doors waiting for them to open up, they'd be fairly early to breakfast.
Rachael, however said they were all (except the McCanns who had their breakfast in the apartment) at breakfast. (maybe she forgot that Dianne didn't go to breakfast when she had tennis).
Jane Tanner was up late and didn't go to breakfast but Russell took E**a and E**e and met Matthew Oldfield as he was leaving.
Matthew didn't want to take G***e to the Nursery as she was a bit upset so Rachael volunteered to do it.
Rachael also claimed that Madeleine and the twins went to the club that morning.
After dropping G***e off at the club, Rachael returned to their apartment to get ready for tennis.
Russell, E**e, E**a and Matthew went back in to the Millenium.
After breakfast, Kate and Gerry took the twins to the creche, although there is no record on the creche records of the twins being there that morning, and Kate presumed that Gerry took Madeleine to the creche.
"Gerry said They made their way on foot by the usual route to the crèche next to the TAPAS where they left the twins, and, while KATE stayed to play tennis he took MADELEINE to her crèche, through the short-cut, where they arrived at 09h15, and , since it was obligatory, he signed the child's attendance register.
The records show that Gerry dropped Madeleine off at 9.10 and Catriona Baker recalls seeing him around 9.15.
Once the children had been delivered, they went to the tennis courts for a scheduled tennis lesson. Kate’s group lesson was at 9:15, Gerry’s an hour later. Kate didn't know what Gerry did during that free hour; she presumes he went to the apartment.
On returning, not by the short-cut, Gerry went to the supermarket where he bought milk, he presumes, making his way to his apartment, entering by the front door, that was locked by key, when it was 09H40/09H45.
He remained at home for about 15 minutes, dressing in tennis clothes, left by the front door, that he did not lock, and made his way to the tennis courts by the usual route, they being next to the TAPAS.
Kate met Rachael, Jane and Dianne at the courts at 9.10am
Rachael claimed that Russel went to the beach with Matthew and Fiona and Dave were also down there, David says they took the dinghys out, but Matthew claimed that when the left the Millenium, Russell went on and he turned left and went down to the beach and went sailing for that morning.
Meanwhile as Russell's daughter E**e was feeling ill, he dropped E**a (his other daughter!) at the Kids Club at around 10am (9.50 according to records) after breakfast. He completely corroborates his partner Jane Tanner's statements for the rest of the day.
ROB Went to the flat with E**e whiles she was resting he went outside to watch Jane play tennis. He went to the flat with E**e he thinks she had a snooze that morning, and he read a book and played with her and then, at some stage, when Jane had finished playing tennis, he then went out with E** play tennis.
According to Gerry, when Kate had finished playing tennis at 10:15, she went to the recreation area next to the swimming pool to talk to Russell until Gerry’s lesson was over.
Jez arrived for tennis with Gerry and noted that the two females of his group (Rachael and Jane?) were not there, (where were they?) just one that he did not know the name of (Dianne?).
He had met Rachael and Jane (and Mathew an Russell) on the plane.
On the second court between 9 and 10 another person REAP was playing.
While Gerry and Jez were playing, at 10.30 there was the Minis for tennis. This was not Madeleine's group. It was the group with Bridget O'Donnell and Jez Wilkins' girl that was playing.
Bridget claimed all the girls were pink and pretty.
At the same time (10.30am) Madeleine was being taken on the speedboat by Catriona and telling her she was scared.
Catriona recalls seeing friends of Kate and Gerrys David and Jane (meaning Fiona?)
Russell remembers that after Jane’s tennis lesson ‘ one of the guests ,a man from Southampton came up , ‘ his three year old daughter, was having a kid’s tennis lesson.
He felt it was important, particularly, because of what the man said, if Madeleine was potentially being photographed by anyone, it was absolutely clear that Madeleine and E**a were not there that day.
And present at that conversation were Russell, Jane, Kate and Rachael,
There were a couple of people who were, who Kate and Rachael and Jane had played with, I, I forget the names. I’ve got this vague recollection there was a lady who, probably in her mid-forties, blonde hair, who may have been there as well, (Anne & Jayne Jensen? - they were booked for 12.1- 2.30)
At 10.52 Russell's mobile was active for the only time that day.
Just before 11.00am, Kate was still there (we don't know the time that morning that she washed the tea stain!), Rachael and Jane also, as Russell confirmed they were there during the children's tennis and the conversation with the man from Southampton.
Fiona and Dave were on their way back to their apartment (where they arrived at 11.30am) as they were cold from sailing.
Russell, Jane and Evie walked down to the beach just after 11.00 as they met Fiona and Dave on their way back.
They met Dave and Fi coming back, because they’d had their second, sailing lesson they said‘Oh we’ve seen Madeleine and Ella on a boat down there’ So then Jane and Russell went down to the beach, and Russell took out a kayak and Jane sat and just played
Ella and Madeleine and the rest of the group were getting ready to walk back up to the Kids Club
Jane got pictures of Ella, of Evie, (Note: Not Madeleine in the same group?) that’s about the first day she took pictures
Thursday was probably one of the first nice days the sun had come out in the day.
They didn’t know where Kate went at that point, but she didn’t co to the beach with them.
Matthew Oldfield was booked for 11.00 (He and Rachael had said he went down to the beach for sailing around an hour earlier at 10.00am!)
Records show that he played with Dan on Court 1 while FOSTER played on court 2.
After Gerry's tennis class finished at 11.15, he stayed in the pool area talking with his wife andother persons, whom he does not remember.
After tennis, they all went to the pool. Jez saw Gerry and Kate near the pool relaxing and spent the majority of the time talking with the tennis coach She was a British tennis instructor whose name is George or Georgina. He remembered that she was telling them a bit about her personal life.
The coach appeared to be talking about her life in general and both Jeremy and Bridget noticed that Gerry and Kate were listening intently to her. Jeremy thought this to be courteous of them considering they did not know her.
Fiona and Dave were drenched and really wet and really cold, so they came back to the apartment to get, more clothes because they hadn’t taken enough with them. Eleven, half eleven, that they were back at the apartment.
And then they sat, by the pool for a bit with Dave and then we saw Kate and Gerry and we justsat and had a chat with them
Anne and Jayne Jensen played on the court 1 after Matthew Oldfield at 12 -12.30
At some point Kate and Gerry went back together to the apartment until close to 12:15 whenKate went to Madeleine’s creche to pick her up, together with Fiona Payne.
She signed the register (but CAT does not recall seeing her) and went to the twins’ creche with the intention of picking them up, she thought she would meet Gerry there, not knowing if he already had the twins with him
The twins were not signed in or out that morning.
Together with the three children they went to the apartment for lunch, with food bought at the supermarket. This would be around 12:35/12:40. They ate sandwiches, mainly she and Gerry, and the children maybe ate pasta. Lunch lasted around 20 minutes
Gerry claims that at 12H00, together with KATE, she made lunch and he went to get MADELEINE. He thinks that it was KATE who took the twins home. Since it was he who went to collect MADELEINE, he is sure he used the short-cut.
(Creche records Kate 12.25 - no records for twins) (FIONA AND KATE PICKED HER UP ALTHOUGH CAT DOES NOT REMEMBER SEEING KATE OR GERRY PICKING HER UP OR DROPPING HER OFF AFTER LUNCH)
GERRY At 12h30 they started lunch, the meal having lasted an hour until 13h30
At that time the Last Picture was taken!!
Fiona and Dave and Dianne had lunch in their apartment and (unusually) Jane and Russel, Matthew and Rachael had lunch together.
NOTE:
Remembering these timelines are taken from T7 (contrived) statements.
Jez (credible witness) did not see Jane and Rachael OR (maybe) Kate when he arrived even though they all claim to have been there.
ROB claims they were there and entered into a conversation with the Man from Southampton.
Rachael and Matthew claim he was sailing in the morning...going at around 10.00am but he was booked for a tennis lesson at 11.00am
Kate claims to have chatted with ROB after her lesson but he says he was in the apartment looking after E**e for some time.
Fiona claims to have seen Kate and Gerry by the pool for 10 minutes before they went to pick up Madeleine and Scarlett but Kate and Gerry say they were back in the apartment at that time. (Where did Kate meet up with Fiona to collect the children?)
Many more discrepancies for that morning nd I haven't finished putting all the statements together.
Jane, Rachael, Fiona, Matthew and Russell were not mentioned by Jez, even though he knew some of them from the plane and they claim to have been there!
| Kate | Gerry | FP/DP | JT | ROB | MO | RMO | DW | Others | | 7am | KATE On May 3 they all woke between 7;30 and 8:00 AM; doesn’t know who woke first. | GERRY Thursday, 3 May 2007, they all woke up at the same time between 07H30 and 08H00 | | | | | | | |
| 8am | They washed the children and had breakfast at the apartment between 08:00 and 08:30 AM. Food bought by her and Gerry at Baptista supermarket.
KATE During breakfast the “crying episode”, already described, took place. She noticed a stain, supposedly of tea, on Madeleine’s pijama top, which she washed a little later that same morning. She hung it to dry on a small stand, and it was dry by the afternoon. Madeleine sometimes drank tea; the stain did not appear during breakfast, maybe it happened another day, as Madeleine did not have tea the previous night and the stain was dry.
| While they were taking breakfast MADELEINE addressed the mother and asked her “why didn't you come last night when S*** and I were crying?”.
| | | | MO - The Thursday morning we, Rachael, G***e and I went to the Millennium Restaurant for breakfast, well as we did each morning, as I’ve already said. There wasn’t anybody else there, we had breakfast on our own. I don’t mean there was nobody else at any other table, but it was fairly quiet, but none of the other group were there initially. Now we were always fairly early because G***e was always awake earliest, erm, awake at, I don’t know”.
00.02.26 4078 “Lucky you!”
Reply “Yeah, always by half six or six o’clock and she’d be sort of sparky and awake and wanting to get up and so we’d sort of trudge on and we might even be banging on the doors waiting for them to open up, we’d be fairly early to breakfast.
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RMO - On 3rd May, the day of Madeleine’s disappearancethey all (except for the McCanns who stayed in their apartment) has breakfast at the Millenium at 08.00.
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| 9am | KATE After breakfast they got dressedand left the apartment by the main door. All children went walking. The verandah door was closed and locked; she doesn’t know whether the main door was locked or unlocked.
After leaving the apartment they left the twins at the creche next to the Tapas; at the same time she supposes that Gerry took Madeleine to the creche next to the 24-hour reception area.
Once the children had been delivered, they went to the tennis courts for a scheduled tennis lesson. Kate’s group lesson was at 9:15, Gerry’s an hour later. She doesn’t know what Gerry did during that free hour; she presumes he went to the apartment
Also present at the tennis courts between 9.10 and 10.10 were Kate McCann, Dianne Webster and Jane Tanner. | GERRY Thursday, after breakfast, about 09h00,KATE and the children left by the rear door, he having left by the front door, which he locked with the key, having also closed and locked the rear door from the inside.
They made their way on foot by the usual route to the crèche next to the TAPAS where they left the twins, and, while KATE stayed to play tennis he took MADELEINE to her crèche, through the short-cut, where they arrived at 09h15, and ,since it was obligatory, he signed the child's attendance register.
She doesn’t know what Gerry did during that free hour; she presumes he went to the apartment
GERRY On returning, not by the short-cut, he went to the supermarket where he bought milk, he presumes, making his way to his apartment, entering by the front door, that was locked by key, when it was 09H40/09H45.
----- He remained at home for about 15 minutes, dressing in tennis clothes, left by the front door, that he did not lock, and made his way to the tennis courts by the usual route, they being next to the TAPAS.
| | j up late no breakfast
Also present at the tennis courts between 9.10 and 10.10 were Kate McCann, Dianne Webster and Jane Tanner.
J Tennis with RM | jROB took E&E to Millenium with Matt
ROB Erm well we didn’t see them at, at breakfast me and,me and Matt had gone up to the Millennium for breakfastand we were, we were running a little bit late
j Rob dropped Ella..walked Ev to tennis?
| MO - And so that morning we’d eaten breakfast and we were ready to leave before anybody else arrived and we were actually out of the door when Russell, with his two children, but not Jane, arrived.
MO - I didn’t really enjoy dropping G***e off at Nursery because she got a bit upset, Rachael volunteered to go and do it. So she went back, erm, she went back first and I stayed with Russell and went back in for breakfast, because I was going to go down to the beach and sail because they had, erm, either a sailing or a wind surfing, I think they had sailing that morning, so I was going to go down and go sailing, that’s what we’d agreed that I would do. Erm, so we went back in and he had breakfast and I think Jane had tennis, I think maybe they were, I think they had a lesson, did they have a lesson together Rachael and Jane, erm, they wouldn’t have done because we’d have had lessons as a couple. And so I went back in with Russell and E**a and E**e and we had breakfast and then we walked back together and we, Russell had to take E**a and E**e, erm, so he dropped E**a off at the, at her Nursery area which was separate from where we drop G***e,
| Afterwards the witness took G***e to the Club.Madeleine and the twins also went to the Club that morning, (?) as well as the other children in the group.
The witness, after leaving G***e at the club went to the apartment to get ready for tennis. Also present at the tennis courts between 9.10 and 10.10 were Kate McCann, Dianne Webster and Jane Tanner. | Also present at the tennis courts between 9.10 and 10.10 were Kate McCann, Dianne Webster and Jane Tanner. | |
| TIME | TENNIS | Tennis Records & Comments | Other Locations | | 9.00 | KM JT RMO
plus blonde lady in 40's
9-10 Adult classic 1
9-10 RFAP?
GPO4? | Kate’s group lesson was at 9:15,
I think it was kind of generally a sort of women’s tennis lesson that had gone on, there may have been a partner of one of the other, of the other guests, there were a couple of people who were, who Kate and Rachael and Jane had played with, I, I forget the names. I’ve got this vague recollection there was a lady who, probably in her mid-forties, blonde hair, | | | 9.30 | KM JT RMO
9-10 Adult classic 1
9-10 RFAP?
GPO4? | | RMO“Erm well I saw Kate, I chatted to Kate by the pool, erm in the morning”.
1578 “What time was that”?
Reply “That would have been from sort of, you know half nine, ten o’clock onwards
RMO (May 11)At 09H45 she left the apartment and went to the swimming pool area where she read a book and talked with KATE until llH10, the time at which she went to the tennis courts since the lesson was delayed slightly. At that time her husband MATHEW arrived also to play tennis until about 12.10 pm. |
| 10am | When her lesson ended at 10:15, she went to the recreation area next to the swimming pool to talk to Russelluntil Gerry’s lesson was over
| | The Payne couple were also at the beach
DP - on that particular day err me and Fiona had you know gone down to the beach, we err took the dinghies out err as usual | jThursday another group of children came down for their tennis
lesson and that’s when Russell and this other person was there with the video camera.conversation with this other person .. because he was taking pictures of his daughter | ROB
Yesterday, as his daughter **** was feeling ill, the informant dropped **** (his other daughter!) at the Kids Club at around 10am after breakfast. He completely corroborates his partner Jane Tanner's statements for the rest of the day.
RMO- Matthew andROB went to the beach
ROB Went to the flat with E***whileshe was resting I went outside to watch Jane play tennis��? I think I was sat and, I went to the flat with E**erm, she, I think she did have a snooze that morning, erm, and I read a book and played with her and then, at some stage, I think when Jane had finished playing tennis, I then went out with E** play tennis��?
ROB After Jane’s tennis lesson? I’ll try and preserve it as much as possible, ‘I recall that one of the guests? erm, ?FONT sia man from Southampton came up full-stop. ‘His daughter it was his three year old daughter, ‘his young daughter was having a? this, it may be word perfect, ‘was having a? erm?
1578 “We have got His daughter was playing tennis Reply “Well, yeah, his, his daughter was having a tennis lesson, you know, a kid’s tennis lesson
And I think that’s important, particularly, because of what the man said, if Madeleine was potentially being photographed by anyone, it was absolutely clear that Madeleine and E were not there that day
And present at that conversation were?��?BR>Reply “Well certainly myself, Jane, Kate and Rachael,
there were a couple of people who were, who Kate and Rachael and Jane had played with, I, I forget the names. I’ve got this vague recollection there was a lady who, probably in her mid-forties, blonde hair, who may have been there as well, (Anne & Jayne?)
10.52 Russel Mobile On the day of the occurrence, 3rd, there exists only the record made at 10:52:32 | MO - he (ROB) went on and I turned left and went down to the beach and went sailing for that morning
| RMO- Matthew andROB went to the beach. The Payne couple were also at the beach.
Gerry’s tennis session was at 10.00.
| | 10-11 creche 'minis' tennis
(according to tennis records but not on Lobsters schedule)
Madeleine sailing
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id231.html
\\\"There was one occasion, on Thursday, 3rd of May 2007, around 10H30 in the morning, where she cried at the launch of the yellow safety boat in the ocean where all the children were sailing.She was scared and fearful and cried on my lap \\\"I am scared, I am scared.\\\" We only used the launches to transport the children to the small yellow boats. When we returned to the other boat she was happy again. She sailed in the small boat and even though some children had the opportunity to return to the port, she stayed for a second time as she appeared to be having a good time. Jane Tanner\\\'s daughter also took part in my group and together they would play. Apart from being a happy child in the club, she always seemed very content when she saw her parents. Madeleine did not demonstrate any fear with the return launch to land.\\\"
JEZ Relative to the encounter with Gerry and Kate on the 3rd of May 2007;
I had a tennis lesson with Gerry from 10h00 to 11h00. After the lesson we went to fetch the children from the crèche.
Jez Thursday, 3rd May 2007, at 10 am I went to tennis lesson as usual and Jerry was there and a female. The other two females were not present
JEZ He went to play tennis at 1030hrs and noticed Gerry was there. He engaged in general conversation with him as well as a female member of Gerry’s group, but he could not name her. (D |
| 10.00 | GM JW Female
(2 females missing)
10-11 Adult classic 2
10-10.30 Adult Classic |
JEREMY WILKINS
On Thursday, 3rd May 2007, at 10 am I went to tennis lesson as usual and Jerry was there and a female. The other two females were not present. We again engaged in general conversation and played (?!) the lesson for an hour.
He went to play tennis at 1030hrs and noticed Gerry was there. He engaged in general conversation with him as well as a female member of Gerry’s group, but he could not name her.
Gerry’s an hour later | | | 10.30 | GM JW
Female
(2 females missing)
10-11 Adult classic 2
Madeleine?
10.30 MINIS | he lives in Southampton, he was there with his wife and a young kid
yeah, his, his daughter was having a tennis lesson
| 10.15 - 11.15 KM ROB - Rec Area When her lesson ended at 10:15, she went to the recreation area next to the swimming pool to talk to Russell until Gerry’s lesson was over
KM JT RMO Court area - And present at that conversation were?”
Reply “Well certainly myself, Jane, Kate and Rachael,
RMO-
the last time you saw Madeleine”?
Reply “Erm it was when she was having a tennis lesson, in the morning yeah, about probably between ten thirty and eleven on the morning of the third of May”.
00.41.13 1578 “At the tennis courts”?
Reply “Yes at the tennis courts”.
1578 “Any particular court”?
Reply “Erm it was the one, if you were standing facing the courts, it’s the one on the left I think”.NOTE: Madeleine's group played on Tuesday and all Mini's tennis was played on Court 2. Rachael is describing court 1. WHY LIE about seeing madeleine?
RMO“Erm well I saw Kate, I chatted to Kate by the pool, erm in the morning”.
1578 “What time was that”?
Reply “That would have been from sort of, you know half nine, ten o’clock onwards, we were chatting when Madeleine arrived for the tennis lesson with the rest of the children from her group, erm I think that was probably about ten thirty, erm and Gerry was there then as well, I think he’d been having a lesson on the tennis courts I think, he was having group lessons, so I think he might have been having his lesson sort of up until then, erm so they were both there then and then erm Matt and I had our tennis lesson
DP FP MO Sailing Dave and I, taking out a boat together. And, and that morning I think Matt came out as well and he was on a separate boat,
Russell After Jane’s tennis lesson I’ll try and preserve it as much as possible, ‘I recall that one of the guests erm, a man from Southampton came up full-stop. ‘His daughter it was his three year old daughter, ‘his young daughter was having a this, it may be word perfect, ‘was having a erm
1578 “We have got His daughter was playing tennisReply “Well, yeah, his, his daughter was having a tennis lesson, you know, a kid’s tennis lesson And I think that’s important, particularly, because of what the man said, if Madeleine was potentially being photographed by anyone, it was absolutely clear thatMadeleine and E were not there that day And present at that conversation were?��?BR>Reply “Well certainly myself, Jane, Kate and Rachael,
NOTE: Russell (above) claims they were watching the mini group lesson at 10.30 - 11.00 and describes in detail.
Jane (below) claims they went to the beach and saw Madeleine and Ella.
Both statements are specific and a contradiction of each other
See below....
Jane jRussell, me and Evie walked down to the
beach.I don’t know
where Kate went at that point, but she didn’t come to the beach with us jDave and Fi were already down there and, no, we
metwe met Dave and Fi coming back, because they’d had their second, I think
they’d had their second sailing lessonthey said ‘Oh we’ve seen Madeleine and Ella on a boat down there’So then we
went down to the beach, erm, and Russell took out a kayak and I sat and just played jElla and Madeleine and the rest of the groupthey were getting ready to walk back up to the, erm, tut, the
Kids Club jI’ve got pictures
of Ella, of Evie, that’s about the first day I took pictures actually
Reply “So, yeah, so we had, erm, the tennis lesson finished, so I’ve had that conversation
about ‘Isn’t it awful you can’t watch your daughter’, blah, blah, blah, ‘You can’t film
your own daughter’. And then we walked down to the beach with Exx. So I think,
erm, I think we walked down, no, Dave and Fi were already down there and, no, we
met. Hang on. Sorry, I’m just trying to think.
(Contradiction corrected, it seems they did both but no mention of the beach by ROB when asked about seeing Madeleine)
jThursday was actually probably one of the first nice
daysthe sun had more come out in the day |
| 11am | I don’t know
where Kate went at that point, but she didn’t come to the beach with us | GERRY The tennis class finished at llH15, he stayed in the pool area talking with his wife andother persons, whom he does not remember.
| FP - FIONA PAYNE And then we were drenched and really wet and really cold, so I think we actually came back to the apartment to get, you know, more clothes because were cold and hadn’t taken enough with us. Erm, and then, so that would have been, I don’t know, eleven, half eleven, that we were back at the apartment.
And then sat, erm, on, by the pool for a bit with Dave and then we saw Kate and Gerry and we just sat and had a chat with them | JT - jRussell, me and Evie walked down to the
beach.I don’t know
where Kate went at that point, but she didn’t come to the beach with us
jDave and Fi were already down there and, no, we
metwe met Dave and Fi coming back, because they’d had their second, I think
they’d had their second sailing lessonthey said ‘Oh we’ve seen Madeleine and Ella on a boat down there’So then we
went down to the beach, erm, and Russell took out a kayak and I sat and just played
jElla and Madeleine and the rest of the groupthey were getting ready to walk back up to the, erm, tut, the
Kids Club
jI’ve got pictures
of Ella, of Evie, (Note: Not Madeleine in the same group?) that’s about the first day I took pictures actually
jThursday was actually probably one of the first nice
daysthe sun had more come out in the day
| JT - jRussell, me and Evie walked down to the
beach | | The witness’s tennis session was at 11 with Matthew after he returned from the beach. | | JEZ Relative to the encounter with Gerry and Kate on the 3rd of May 2007;
I had a tennis lesson with Gerry from 10h00 to 11h00. After the lesson we went to fetch the children from the crèche. I saw Gerry and Kate near the pool relaxing. I remember that they were talking to a British tennis instructor whose name is George or Georgina. I remember that she was telling them a bit about her personal life.
JEZ - 3 May 2007.
He went to play tennis at 1030hrs and noticed Gerry was there. He engaged in general conversation with him as well as a female member of Gerry’s group, but he could not name her. After which they all went to the pool. Both Gerry and Kate were present this time and spent the majority of the time talking with the tennis coach. The coach appeared to be talking about her life in general and both Jeremy and Bridget noticed that Gerry and Kate were listening intently to her. Jeremy thought this to be courteous of them considering they did not kn |
| 11.00 | MO
11-12 Oldfield (YW?) Dan (L?)
11-12 Foster | MO 4078 “Did you play tennis every day?”
Reply “No, erm, no, I think, I think we tried to play tennis, because they two things, they do sort of organised lessons and we signed up for some lessons which got delayed for weather reasons later in the week, I can’t remember if we signed up for those straight away, because we didn’t do a group, we didn’t do a group lesson which we’d done, when did we do a group lesson, I don’t think we did, I think we just did, Rachael and I, erm, with, erm, with an instructor, because I think we felt we’d play sort of socially with everybody else and then we’d have, do some sort of private lessons rather than signing up all week. I’m not sure about that. I don’t remember playing any organised games with anybody else, I think we just had sort of three, sort of two or three, erm, proper tennis lessons”.
4078 “Do you remember when they were?”
Reply “Erm, I know there was one on the last Thursday,because it got moved over from Wednesday, becauseWednesday it rained and Thursday was a pretty decent day for weather, erm, so it would probably have been, if I’m thinking it’s three, it would probably have been Monday, Tuesday andThursday, but I can’t remember”.
MO - I assume we made our way back from the beach, picked G***e up from Nursery and, erm, had lunch, |
FP eleven, half eleven, that we were back at the apartment
MO - He was sailing until about 11h00 due to which he was late for the tennis class he had booked for that time, together with his wife.
RMO - and then erm Matt and I had our tennis lesson
RMO - until llH10, the time at which she went to the tennis courts since the lesson was delayed slightly. At that time her husband MATHEW arrived also to play tennis until about 12.10 pm. | | 11.30 | MO
11-12 Oldfield (YW?) Dan (L?)
11-12 Foster | MO Thursday is easier to remember for obviously reasons, but Rachael and Jane played tennis that lunchtime and then came back and Russell and I went off to the beach, erm”. |
JW-BOD GEORGINA
I went to the pool where Bridget was. I think Jerry’s wife, Kate was already there speaking to the tennis coach. They got really involved in a conversation XXX Jerry would say a joke (?!!!!, unreadible) and go ..
After which they all went to the pool. Both Gerry and Kate were present this time and spent the majority of the time talking with the tennis coach. The coach appeared to be talking about her life in general and both Jeremy and Bridget noticed that Gerry and Kate were listening intently to her. Jeremy thought this to be courteous of them considering they did not know her.
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FP DP GM KM -Pool area
sat, erm, on, by the pool for a bit with Dave and then we saw Kate and Gerry and we just sat and had a chat with them. |
12.00 KATE Afterwards, she is not sure, they went back together to the apartment until close to 12:15 whenshe went to Madeleine’s creche to pick her up, together with Fiona Payne.
She signed the register and went to the twins’ creche with the intention of picking them up, she thought she would meet Gerry there, not knowing if he already had the twins with him
Together with the three children they went to the apartment for lunch, with food bought at the supermarket. This would be around12:35/12:40. They ate sandwiches, mainly she and Gerry, and the children maybe ate pasta. Lunch lasted around 20 minutes
| GERRY At 12H00, together with KATE, as he recalls it, she made lunch and he went to get MADELEINE. He thinks that it was KATE who took the twins home.Since it was he who went to collect MADELEINE, he is sure he used the short-cut.
(Creche records Kate 12.25 - no records for twins)
GERRY At 12h30 they started lunch, the meal having lasted an hour until 13h30
| FP - And then it was time to pick up the kids, so Kate and I walked from the Tapas area over to the main reception, going between, you know, there was a sort of path that went between the other Ocean Club complex as well along the road, erm, and she picked up Madeleine and I picked up Scarlet and then we walked back together and that was the only day we ever did, ever did that. Erm,
and then when we got back they, you know, Kate too Madeleine to their apartment for lunch and, erm, I went up to ours for lunch.
And that day, erm, I think was the only day that no-one else came for lunch, erm, tut, I think that was just me, Dave and my mum, and the others,
Rachael and Matt, I think, had their lunch with Russ and Jane, erm, so those two families were together,
Kate and Gerry on their own and us on our own.
DP - on that particular day err me and Fiona had you know gone down to the beach, we err took the dinghies out err as usual we went, you know we had the kids, err we had lunch err in the apartment.
| jRuss took the, took the kayak out for a bit and then came
back and then we just sat, I think we just stayed then on the beach and waited to,
because Ella, and then waited ‘til sort of half twelve to go and pick Ella up for lunch,
erm. So we walked back via the Kids Club and then back up for lunch. And I think
that day was the day we had lunch in our apartment with just Matt and Rachael and not Dave and Fi. I think, I think because they’d done the sailing early
| ROB So after I’ve gone out to play tennis, erm, the next couple of paragraphs occur and then ‘We probably saw Madeleine at lunchtime and one of us probably collected El*so it’s slightly out of, it’s slightly out of synch this��? | | | | |
| 12.00 | 12 -12.30
Anne & Jayne Jensen | | JW-BOD GEORGINA
FP DP GM KM -Pool area
we sort of sat about ten minutes and then, so Kate and I wandered off down to the, erm, Reception to get the kids, erm, Scarlet, Madeleine and Gerry and Dave went and got, went to the toddler club to get the twins and L***”
so when was the first time that you saw Kate and Gerry on the Thursday?”
we were just sat on the sun loungers by the pool, erm, just having a drink and Kate and Gerry appeared, we offered them a drink, I think they turned down, they either, they’d just had a tennis lesson or had a knock, erm. In fact I think, was it Gerry had had a lesson then and was going into length degree to Kate about his style of tennis and I was joking that Kate was actually listening to this and finding it incredibly boring cos it’s the sort of thing, you know, they, as a couple, they did have amazing sort of patience with each other than (inaudible), I wouldn’t have that with David talking to me (inaudible), so there was that joke, so yeah I think it was Gerry just had a tennis lesson and Kate might have been having a knock up, but they were in their tennis gear”.
RMO&MO had 11.00am tennis | | 12.30 | LUNCH | | Madeleine 12.25 KM
FP Yeah, that, that day, erm, I actually picked Scarlet up with Kate, erm, and I’m trying to think what the time, the times were
FP Kate and I walked from the Tapas area over to the main reception, (...) and she picked up Madeleine and I picked up Scarlet and then we walked back together
JW -At 12:30 pm we went fetch the little boy from the crèche as usual. Everyone left the pool at about the same time. I didn’t see Jerry or Kate.
At 1230hrs both Jeremy and Bridget went to pick up their children from the crèche. They did not have any interaction with the group again that afternoon
MO- I turned left and went down to the beach and went sailing for that morning. Erm, from then, I don’t remember, I assume we made our way back from the beach, picked G***e up from Nursery and, erm, had lunch, but I can’t remember where we had lunch that day, it may have been at Dave and Fiona’s by that point in the week.
NOTE: No-one went to Fionas for lunch, JT&ROB MO & RMO had lunch together -
MO -Subsequently the three of them went to the Payne apartment for lunch. He clarifies that he lunched there with the Paynes, their children and mother-in-law, and with ROB and JT. He does not recall if KM and GM were there |
LUNCHTIME
Midday
CRECHE
12.25 KM
| At 12H00, he agreed with KATE, as he recalls it, that she would make lunch and the deponent would pick up MADELEINE. He thinks that it was KATE who took the twins home. Since it was he who went to collect MADELEINE, he is sure he used the short-cut.
NOTE: Kate claims she went back to the apartment at 12.15 and then picked Madeleine up with Fiona.
Fiona claims they stayed at the pool and then went to pick Madeleine up
Catriona cannot remember who picked Madeleine up
The creche records show Kate 12.25)
At 12h30 they started lunch, the meal having lasted an hour, until 13h30
GERRY At 12H00, together with KATE, as he recalls it, she made lunch and he went to get MADELEINE.He thinks that it was KATE who took the twins home. Since it was he who went to collect MADELEINE, he is sure he used the short-cut.
GERRY At12h30 they started lunch, the meal having lasted an hour until 13h30
| Afterwards, she is not sure, they went back together to the apartment until close to 12:15 when she went to Madeleine’s crèche to pick her up, together with Fiona Payne. She signed the crèche's register and went to the twins’ crèche with the intention of picking them up, she thinks that she met Gerry there, not knowing if he already had the twins with him. Together with the three children they went to the apartment for lunch, with food bought at the supermarket. This would be around 12:35/12:40. They ate sandwiches, mainly the deponent and Gerry, and the children maybe ate pasta. Lunch lasted around 20 minutes.
KATE Afterwards, she is not sure, they went back together to the apartment until close to 12:15 when she went to Madeleine’s creche to pick her up, together with Fiona Payne.
She signed the register and went to the twins’ creche with the intention of picking them up, she thought she would meet Gerry there, not knowing if he already had the twins with him
Together with the three children they went to the apartment for lunch, with food bought at the supermarket. This would be around 12:35/12:40. They ate sandwiches, mainly she and Gerry, and the children maybe ate pasta. Lunch lasted around 20 minutes
| FIONA PAYNE
“When did you see Kate and Gerald on Thursday, so when was the first time that you saw Kate and Gerry on the Thursday?”
Reply
“It would have been sort of late morning when we’d got back from our sailing and we got changed, got some warm things on and we were just sat on the sun loungers by the pool, erm, just having a drink and Kate and Gerry appeared, we offered them a drink, I think they turned down, they either, they’d just had a tennis lesson or had a knock, erm. In fact I think, was it Gerry had had a lesson then and was going into length degree to Kate about his style of tennis and I was joking that Kate was actually listening to this and finding it incredibly boring cos it’s the sort of thing, you know, they, as a couple, they did have amazing sort of patience with each other than (inaudible), I wouldn’t have that with David talking to me (inaudible), so there was that joke, so yeah I think it was Gerry just had a tennis lesson and Kate might have been having a knock up, but they were in their tennis gear
FP - And then it was time to pick up the kids, so Kate and I walked from the Tapas area over to the main reception, going between, you know, there was a sort of path that went between the other Ocean Club complex as well along the road, erm, and she picked up Madeleine and I picked up Scarlet and then we walked back together and that was the only day we ever did, ever did that. Erm,
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1.00
LAST PICTURE TAKEN 1.29 | the last record of themobile phone of Kate
prior to the occurrence [event] occurs at13:34:53 | RRY 13h30 After that time they made their way to the resort play area, the deponent left by the front door and the rest of the family by the rear door that, once again, he shut and locked from the inside. As to the front door, he does not know exactly if he locked it.
----- That they stayed in the play area for approximately an hour until 14H30/14H35
After finishing lunch they stayed for a while at the apartment, then they went to the recreation area next to the pool, as the children were somewhat restless, maybe tired or bored. They remained at this area an hour, maybe more, then they left the twins at the creche next to the Tapas and both of them took Madeleine to the other creche. They went via a path in front of the small reception and then through gardens and stairs, taking a short cut. This route was the one mentioned by Gerry.
| We put our kids to bed slightly earlier that day, thinking, because it was a nicer day, that we’ll try and get down to the beach and, you know, have a bit of a afternoon at the beach with them. So that day was slightly different”.
| jbefore Ella went back, Rachael and I just went to have a knock on the tennis court probably about half one
| ROB ‘I believe I saw Madeleine at lunchtime��?
| MO - I assume we made our way back from the beach, (NOTE: Tennis at 11 according to RMO and tennis sheets)
picked G***e up from Nursery and, erm, had lunch, but I can’t remember where we had lunch that day, it may have been at Dave and Fiona’s by that point in the week
| jbefore Ella went back, Rachael and I just went to have a knock on the tennis court probably about half one
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| 1.00 | LUNCH | | KM GM +3 - 5A
FP DP DW +2 Own apt Kids bed
about one, half one,
MO RMO ROB JT Lunch together | | 1.30 | LUNCH | | 1.30-2.15 KM GM +3 POOL around 1.30pm, the children spent time near the club's swimming pool, supervised by the parents, for about 45 minutes,
FP- I was around, I was around the apartment”.
L&S asleep |
| 2.00 | | GERRY After that14H30/14H35 they left the twins next to the crèche at the TAPAS, they signed the register and the three (deponent, KATE and MADELEINE) made their way to the crèche at the main reception, where they arrived at14H50 and delivered MADELEINE, not being able to say precisely who signed the register.
(CB does not remember who picked up and dropped off at lunchtime)
CB madeleine dropped by kate : 14-50 KM
4 children in the afternoon (including Madeleine)
| DP -that afternoon I wanted to go down err to the Ocean, err to the beach and err you know windsurf err Matt and Russell had gone down there, they were, had taken the catamaran out. So I went down there err while Fiona and Dianne were looking after the girls in our apartment.
| j Russ took back, took Ella back to the Kids Cluband Matt was listening for Evie and Grace
jI think we played ‘til about, phew, half two
jI’m not sure | j Russ took back, took Ella back to the Kids Cluband Matt was listening for Evie and Grace
ROB if this is going to be another question that you are going to ask, but I think that was
the last time that I saw Madeleine, because Kate and Gerry brought the kids, all the
kids down to the play area to, they would have their lunch before they took them
back to the Kids Club, and I think that was about two, quarter past two’ish, and I can
remember Madeleine shouting things to us on the tennis court, you know, and I can
remember Gerry sort of going ‘Oh good shot��?or whatever. And I think that would
have been the last time that I personally, you know, I personally saw Madeleine.
Erm, and I think they then left, I say times, I’m not sure, but I know, I think it was
probably, the Kids Club had already gone back in, because I could hear, the Kids
Club was right by the court, so, and I can remember thinking ‘Oh they’ve not gone
straight back in��? Then they took the twins up to the Kids Club and I presume
Madeleine back to the, to the other one, because then Kate and Gerry, I think we saw
them, I can’t remember for exactly, but I think we saw them when we come back,
because they’d booked a, erm, a private tennis lesson, just the two of them, that
I can’t recall if I collected El*or whether she was brought up by the Nannies, it’s all a bit hazy now��? I think I can probably say the Nannies did not bring the children back at the end of the morning session because there was no tea, they weren’t bringing them back sort of thing. So I think I can probably, I can probably clarify there that, erm, ‘Either Jane or I collected El*from the��? erm, ‘from the��? erm, ‘Ocean Club, Mini Club’��?
Jane was looking after E��? we didn’t, we didn’t put her into, into the club that afternoon
| j Russ took back, took Ella back to the Kids ClubandMatt was listening for Evie and Grace
MO- then in the aft, when G***e went down to sleep Rachael went to play tennis with Jane, I’m fairly sure about that.
| jI think we played ‘til about, phew, half two
jI’m not sure | | |
| 2.00 | LUNCH
DW & JT?
GM & SC | | 1.30 -2.30 KM GM +3 - POOL then they went to the recreation area next to the pool, as the children were somewhat restless, maybe tired and bored. They remained at this area for about an hour, maybe more, then they left the twins at the crèche next to the Tapas and both of them took Madeleine to the other crèche
FP mum had tennis possibly
she might have played a bit of tennis with Jane
MO ROB boat -and I think Matt and Russell had already gone down to do, to take a boat out a bit earlier
L&S Asleep
Stepehen Carpenter
DCF: Did you see Kate or Gerry on the Thursday 3rd May, obviously this was the day when Madeleine disappeared already mentioned in your statement.
SC: Yes, in the restaurant, yes.
DCF: Do you remember if you saw them before the evening'
SC: Humm... I think that we played tennis during the afternoon on Thursday.
DCF: Yes.
SC: I’m not certain, I remember that it was on Thursday that there were four individuals with whom we used to share the tennis courts, and I think that I mentioned this in my statement, I would say that it was on Thursday that we played tennis and I think that this was what we talked about in the Tapas bar.
DCF: OK, do you have any idea of what time you played tennis with Gerry'
SC: Humm... from two to four or from two until any time in the afternoon, I remember it coincided with leaving the kids in the crèche and picking them up.
| | 2.30 |
GM & SC
DW & JT?
2.30-245LUNCH
2.30-3.30 Weinberger | | FP Apartment
Madeleine 2.50 KM
A&S 2.45 KM
DP Windsurfing Dave possibly, sort of halfway through the afternoon, while the kids were still asleep, went off to do some wind surfing
L&S Asleep
E**a -Creche
MO ROB boat |
| 3.00 | | GERRYThe deponent and KATE returned to the OCEAN CLUB by the short-cut and at the secondary reception they asked the lady employee if there was a vacant tennis court they could reserve. They were told there was a vacancy between 14H30 to 15H30. As it was already 15h00, they began to play immediately. At 15H30, the tennis instructor arrived, who instructed each of them until 16H30.
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| 3.00 | DW & JT?
KM
2.30-3.30 Weinberger
GM & SC
GM
3-3.30 Gerry Dan | around 2:50 p.m., they both had, once more, a tennis lesson, this time an individual one just for the two of them, | FP Apartment
L&S Asleep
E**a -Creche
MO ROB boat
DP Windsurfing | | 3.30 |
KM
Madeleine?
3.30 -4.30 kids club
GM & SC
GM
3-3.30 Gerry Dan | | T7 Beach
MO ROB boat
DP Windsurfing
E**a -Creche
FP DW JT RMO Walked to beach-the kids would have woken up about sort of three, half three, erm, and I went down to the beach at that point, certainly with mum
Jane and, erm, Rachael also brought their children and we all sort of headed down to the beach”.
So in that group, yeah, me, mum, I think, as I say, I can’t say for Dave, I think he was already, had gone by then, yeah, Jane with, erm, E**a and E**e, well it would have just, it was just E**e actually because E**a was, would have been in kids club, and, erm, yeah, and Rachael with G***e”.
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| 4.00 | KM
GM
3-3.30 Gerry Dan | | we got to the beach about four o’clock
E**a -Creche
DP Windsurfing
FP JT RMO Sandcastles women and the kids really playing on the beach, you know, sandcastles and stuff
T7 Beach
| | 4.30 | GM Julian
4.30-6.00 Tennis clinic
4.30-6.00 Tennis clinic | The lesson ended an hour later, at around 4:30 p.m. Gerry continued playing tennis with a guest called JULIAN who belonged to his tennis group, | 4.30-500 KM Jog The lesson ended, at around 4:30 p.m - she went for a jog along the beach, for around half an hour
T7 Beach
4.30 ROB E**a creche
MO ROB - Boat until 4.30 Matt and Russell came back in and there was a bit of a laugh because Russ was saying that he saved Matt’s life
Matt must have got in, I’m sure it was Matt and Russ, about half four, erm, and then, about twenty minutes after that, maybe Dave
4.50 Dave had came in from the wind surfing. |
| 5.00 | GM
4.30-6.00 Tennis clinic
4.30-6.00 Tennis clinic | | T7 Paradaiso
FP-that group as a whole went up to the restaurant, erm, on the beach and ordered our, well the food for the kids, we didn’t eat, and we all had a beer. Erm, so, yeah, I’d say about five”.
Food-five and half five. I mean, there was always a little wait, but not too long | | 5.30 | 4.30-6.00 Tennis clinic
4.30-6.00 Tennis clinic | | KM GM & Children -TAPAS When she finished jogging, at around 5:20/5:30 p.m., she went to the Tapas area. Gerry was there, as well as the twins and Madeleine who were having dinner at separate tables
Her parents were required to sign the register when the meal was over, at around 5.30 p.m
(Madeleine-Kate signed 5.30 / A&S Kate signed 5.25)
She (Madeleine) asked Kate to carry her back to the apartment. Kate agreed, and Gerry led the twins back to the apartment, as well
5.40-600 KM GM & Children 5A
After the 5pm dinner, they bathed the children, prepared them for the night and let them play for a while at a playground next to the tennis courts, still and always under parental supervision. At around 8pm, the children were put to bed
T7 - Paraiso |
| 4pm | GM
They stayed there, talking, until 16H45, at which time the twins went to the meal area | KM
The lesson ended an hour later, at around 4:30 p.m. | | | | | | | | | 5pm | At 17h00, as usual, MADELEINE arrived accompanied by the nannies and the other children. After her arrival, MADELEINE dined, having finished at 17H30.
After 17H30 they went to the apartment, the deponent having entered by the main door, which he did not lock while he was inside the residence. KATE and the children entered by the back door, after this had been opened from the inside by the deponent.
NOTE: Kate claims carrying Madeleine and entering by the front door
NOTE: Did Kate go jogging on the beach and wave to the others?) at 5.00pm | Gerry continued playing tennis with a guest called JULIAN who belonged to his tennis group, while she went for a jog along the beach, for around half an hour. During that period she saw the rest of the group, children and grownups; she was disappointed as nobody had told her that they were going to the beach and Madeleine surely would have loved to have gone with them. She cannot confirm whether she went to the apartment between the tennis game and the jog.
When she finished jogging, at around 5:20/5:30 p.m., she went to the Tapas area.Gerry was there, as well as the twins and Madeleine who were having dinner at separate tables. Madeleine had been taken to the area by the nannies. Her parents were required to sign the register when the meal was over, at around 5.30 p.m.. During the meal Kate asked Madeleine if she was sad because the other children in the group had gone to the beach without her; she replied that she wasn’t, but was rather tired. She asked Kate to carry her back to the apartment. Kate agreed, and Gerry led the twins back to the apartment, as well. Tiredness was due to the intense daily activities, not to any sickness.
They arrived at the apartment at around 5:40 p.m., earlier than usual, because Madeleine was tired, their other friends were at the beach
At the apartment they both bathed the children, and close to 6:00 p.m. Gerry went to the tennis courts, right after the children had finished their bath. They entered the apartment by the main door, with the key. She does not know if it was locked, and presumes it was Gerry who opened it. At lunch time they also entered through the same door.
Note: Gerry claims he went in the front door and opened the back door
CATRIONA ROGATORY (nothing in early statements) after Rothley visit in November.
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Kate went to get Madeleine from the Tapas Bar area
(NOTE: Went refers to someone 'going' as opposed to 'arriving' Translation maybe?)
and according to what I remember she was wearing sporting clothes and I assumed that she was practicing some form of athletics. It was around 15h25/18h00. (5.25-600?) I think that Gerry was playing tennis.
QUESTION: Why would she THINK Gerry was playing tennis?
Gerry claims he was there and Kate claims he was playing with Julian earlier but was already at the tapas when she arrived, so did someone TELL Catriona he was playing tennis?
If not, did she know them well enough to guess (even though he was 'supposedly' right there?)
G & K claim Madeleine was tired and Kate carried her home while Gerry walked with the twins at 6.40
ie
Gerry claims he was there
Kate claims he was there
Catriona claims he wasn't there (she 'thinks' he was playing tennis)
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| 6.00 | GM
6.00-7.30 Mens Social
6.00-7.30 Mens Social
ROB MO
DAN | Gerry had an all-male tennis game at 6:00 p.m.
When David returned from the beach he was with Gerry at the tennis courts, and it was Gerry who asked him to help Kate with taking the children to the recreation area, which had been arranged but did not take place.
MO -Reply “I know we played social tennis with the men in the evening, erm, on that Thursday and we actually, because there weren’t that many people around, erm, and we actually asked them whether they could move the tennis forward so they could go to the social tennis, because it was actually later and it would have gone across bath time so at least half of us wouldn’t have been able to, erm, wouldn’t have been able to go, so they actually moved it forward and I think they moved it to six o’clock from either seven or six thirty, I think we’d asked for it to actually be moved to five thirty but it wasn’t obviously fair on everybody else, in terms of guests, so they didn’t move it completely forward, but they certainly moved it forward by at least half an hour”.
00.21.49 4078 “And that as on the Thursday?”
Reply “They moved it for ever night, erm, but, erm, the Thursday I remember because it was the men’s social and we didn’t think we were going to be able to, to get there because we were already a bit late down the beach, but we’d had sort of a bit of free time, we’d already had our sort of time off child care, if you like, and we didn’t know whether the girls were going to give us a pass to do it, but they did late, so we ended up going to it, but sort of quite late for it, we were pretty late by the time”.
| KM 5A
5.30-6.15 -T7 - Paradaiso
I think me and Matt went straight to the, the courts,Dave went off to his apartment and I believe, erm, to Gerry and Kate’s apartment as well. Erm, we then went down to the tennis, erm, it had already started because we were a little late, erm, and, erm, there was Gerry, Dan and a number of other male guests,
I went up to the social tennis around 18:00hours withMatt I think David went to the apartment and then up to Gerry's
The kids came up with Jane, Fiona and Rachael from the beach, but not the MC CANN'S children I presume that they were at the apartment.
fp - so I think they left probably about, you know, that being Matt and Dave and Russell, around five to six, six o’clock time. And the, you know, the wives stayed behind with the kids, they had ice cream and then we followed on about ten past six and we just walked back up to, to watch them play a bit of tennis and give the kids, you know, a little playtime.
we left the beach at around sort of just after six, ten past six, something like that, so we would have been back, it would have taken us a good ten minutes to walk back
after we had the meal we got some ice cream
I walked back err from the tenniscourts, err back to err you know Kateand Gerry’s apartment
CONFIRMED CCTV PICS
6.14 ROB DP MO Still at Paradaiso
6.36 - RMO JT FP Still at Paradaiso
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id213.html
(Approx 15 mins walk back to Ocean Club) | | 6.30 | GM
6.00-7.30 Mens Social
6.00-7.30 Mens Social
ROB MO
DAN
GM MO DP ROB
MO ROB 6.45 -DP |
another three, two or three people, whose name I may have known at the time but no longer do, I certainly didn’t know them terribly well. And we started off playing doubles on both, both of the two courts, erm, sometimes changing, changing players”.
DP -According to her he then left for the tennis courts where Gerry was. The time was around 6:30-6:40 p.m.
As I understand it, there was a tennis tournament taking place the following day, wasn’t there, was there nobody practising or?”
“Well there was only two courts and during that time, because this was a set, erm, MARK WARNER tennis sort of hour”.
“You couldn’t book the courts for practice, erm, so both courts were, for that hour, the men’s tennis. Erm, so I don’t recall anyone else playing in the, you know, or practising. Erm, I think, you know, I, I, as I recall, I mean, I couldn’t say for sure whether there were other men there, I seem to remember there being a lot of focus on them sort of playing what they wanted to play, the, you know, out of, you know, Russell, Matt and, erm, and Gerry, you know, I’m sure they were practising doing shots and things like that, which is what they wanted to do, so I think if there had been other people there, they would have been having to join in with that. Erm, because I think, I mean, Dave on his camera might even have photos, I think I even took photos, erm, of them practising doing a serve”.
FP-between six and seven as well, could you tell me where David was?”
Reply
“Erm, I can up to a point, yeah. He was, as I say, he left, as I see it, around six, erm, and then I wouldn’t have seen him again until I got to the tennis courts to see him play tennis, so that would have been about half six and then he was playing tennis for that whole half an hour and, as I say, we left him playing tennis, when me and my mum went up to bath the kids and he, he didn’t sort of return until after seven, ten past seven, quarter past seven, something like that, so, yeah, that’s where he was. And then the rest is what he’s told me, erm, again, I couldn’t tell you times, but I know before he went, went to tennis, he popped in on Kate and the kids, erm, and saw them all in their pyjamas, ready for bed, having a story, before going to join for the tennis, so I can only assume that that was between, erm, you know, six and half past”.
1485
“So he didn’t tell you a period of time where he did that then?”
Reply
“Sorry?”
1485
“He didn’t tell you the period of time which he checked on?”
Reply
“Well he said it was before tennis”.
1485
“Before tennis?”
Reply
“Yeah, before going to the tennis”.
1485
“And the next question is, okay, and you have just answered it. If he is not with you during this period then where did he go and with what intention? Well it is obviously it is to play tennis, isn’t it?”
Reply
“Umm”.
1485
“Although you can’t say one hundred percent, can you, if he was on the tennis court between six and seven, can you?”
Reply
“No”.
1485
“You can say he was there between quarter to seven and seven?”
Reply
“I feel I’m answering Dave’s question for him”.
1485
“Yeah”.
Reply
“Because all I know is that he, he said to me later on that evening that he had been in on Kate and the kids. Erm, now I’m taking that as before tennis, whether it was that Gerry stayed on playing tennis and Dave came back earlier and popped in before coming up to our apartment, I, I can’t, I can’t be a hundred percent on that”.
1485
“Yeah”.
Reply
“Erm, you know, contrary to what you’re thinking, I mean, huh, you know, we don’t”.
1485
“I don’t think”.
Reply
“Well, you know. Dave’s, erm, you know, I believe that’s for Dave to say what he did really”.
1485
“Sure, yeah”.
Reply
“But I know, I know he said”.
1485
“It is your interview”.
Reply
“Yeah, I know he said he’d been in there”.
1485
“Yeah”.
Reply
“Erm, and that was before coming back to our apartment, so between, between six and seven o’clock”.
1485
“Yeah. If you don’t know you don’t know”.
Reply
“Yeah”.
1485
“That is the answer really, isn’t it?”
Reply
“Yeah”.
| 6.40 -KM Shower Kate had a shower which lasted around 5 minutes. After showering, at around 6:30/6:40 p.m.
6.40- DP at 5A She saw that it was David Payne, because he called out and had opened the door slightly
David was at the apartment for around 30 seconds, he didn’t even actually enter the flat, he remained at the balcony door
Kate’s about six thirty, err and I went into their apartment through the patio doors
fp- after tennis he’d said he’d checked on Kate and the kidsbefore going to tennis
DAN MO DP ROB‘Dan the tennis coach was also present, as were a handful of other male guests’. ‘And Gerry’, for that matter, it doesn’t, doesn’t explicitly say that Gerry was playing some tennis, which he was (. )‘as were Dave, Matt
So there is Gerry, Dan, yourself and Matt?”
Reply “And Dave and a couple of other guests”.
1578 “You said Dave went to the apartment?”
Reply “Well he did, but only briefly and then, well he went, he went back there and then, and then joined us, so fairly rapidly there was the full kind of compliment of, erm, of, the male adults within the group were playing tennis. And, erm, we played for, you know, a fair amount of time, I mean, in total, we were out there probably an hour and a half nearly
at some point during that period, erm, all the, the people came back up from the beach, so the kids were up at the, I can remember them being up at the, erm, the netting looking down at the sunken courts
Jane took our children back. I think Matt took, erm, G***e took, sorry, Rachael took G***e.
I don’t think we stayed there that long that night because the kids were pretty, pretty tired. Erm, I’m trying to think, I’d say probably by seven o’clock we were, me and my mum headed back with the kids to start bath time. Erm, and Dave, we left him playing tennis for a bit longer
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6.00-7.30 Mens Social
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MO DP ROB
MO ROB DP
DP left 7.10(fp) | I left there, went and got my stuff, went back to the tennis courts and then err there was me, Matt and Russell and I think Gerry played a little,for a little while but he decided that he’d, he’d played enough tennis for that day and err was going back and so it left with me, Russell and err Matt and err Dan who was the, the you know the tennis coach from Mark Warner. Err so we played some tennis and you know we were having a good knock and then it was getting a bit late so err we, you know we left the tennis courts, went back to our respective partners to get ready to go out, you know it was, it was, you know certainly after half past seven that we’d, you know we’d left the courts, perhaps even a bit later than that | And I think Gerry actually left the courtbecause he had been playing for longer than us,I think he went back a little earlier than me, Matt and Dave
Dan, the tennis coach, had also left before we did,
GM KM 5A At 7:00 p.m. Gerry arrived
FP DW -Bath time
DP 7.10 Apartment
I’d say probably by seven o’clock we were, me and my mum headed back with the kids to start bath time. Erm, and Dave, we left him playing tennis for a bit longer. Erm, I think we’d bathed the kids by the time he got back, probablyten minutes later
I’d say, if we came back about seven, he was about ten minutes after that, so about ten past seven, quarter past seven, something like that”.
How did that come into your conversation?”
Reply
“Because he was saying how angelic they all looked and he said to Kate when we all sat down at the Tapas table as well and he was sort of joking how they looked like perfect children, because they were all sat there, all clean in their pyjamas, having a story”.
Yeah. But when did he, specifically, when did he tell you?”
Reply
“I think it was when we were getting the kids ready for bed and we were back in our apartment | | 7.30 | MO DP ROB | | GM KM 5A
we had to take all of the rackets and b*lls back with us, so, you know, it was relatively late. And I’m not entirely sure what time I got back to, to the room, but, you know, well eventually, me, Matt and Dave all came back.
Dan, the tennis coach, had also left before we did,
I’d say it was probably coming up to, you know, not,not far shy of eight o’clock itself.
DP DW - Apartment
FP Run -and then I went for a run that night, after the kids were bathed”... about half past seven”.
It was probably about a twenty or a twenty-fiveminute run...I would have been back by eight o’clock |
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GM KM 5A
I got back to the flat around 20:00hours
FP- I was a bit late, because by the time I got back and helped put the kids to bed and had got in the shower, it was generally me that held things up for us that night, erm, in getting out the door”. |
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Title: Thursday May 3rd - 5:00pm - 6:00pm
| Kate | Gerry | FP & DP | ROB & JT | MO & RM | DW | | 5:00 | | | | | | MO saw kate jogging before the paraiso | | | |
| | | | KM -Sat with Madeleine during meal asked if upset | | | |
| km-Tennis with Julian | | | GM- Sat with madeleine during meal |
| | | | | | 5.30 - Kate was Jogging on beach | | 5.40 - back to apt Madeleine tired km-Arrived through main door |
| | GM - returned to aptwent through front door opened back door for K and kids | | | |
| Paraiso | Paraiso | Paraiso | Paraiso | | | | Paraiso | Paraiso | Paraiso | Paraiso |
ROB - around the five or five fifteen, five twenty mark or somewhere round there, erm, Kate McCANN came running down, she didn’t, I don’t think she stopped to speak to us, as far as I recall, erm, and she carried on up on the hard sand, quite near to the water, away towards, towards I think what’s called Black Rock I don’t remember her coming back, but as time went on, I think the kids were getting a little bit hungry, so we drifted back up the beach to the, the Paradiso Restaurant, I think it’s called, erm, and got some chairs there, ordered some, some food for the children, because they’d missed, they’d missed high tea. I have missed something out, something out here, of course, is that, erm, around the five o’clock mark, erm, I had to pelt up to Ocean Club to get El out before the Nannies would have taken them up to high tea back at the Tapas. So I went up there, collected E and brought her back to the beach 5.40 kate They arrived at the apartment at around 5:40 p.m., earlier than usual, because Madeleine was tired, their other friends were at the beach and Gerry had an all-male tennis game at 6:00 p.m. At the apartment they both bathed the children, and close to 6:00 p.m. Gerry went to the tennis courts, right after the children had finished their bath. They entered the apartment by the main door, with the key. She does not know if it was locked, and presumes it was Gerry who opened it. At lunch time they also entered through the same door.
KM - When she finished jogging, around 5:20/5:30PM she went to the Tapas area. Gerry was there, as well as the twins and Madeleine who were eating at separate tables. Madeleine had been taken to the Tapas by the nannies. Her parents were required to sign the register when the meal was over. During the meal Kate asked Madeleine if she was sad because the other children in the group had gone to the beach without her: she replied that she wasn’t, but was rather tired. She asked Kate to carry her back to the apartment. Kate agreed, and Gerry led the twins back to the apartment. Tiredness was due to the intense daily activities, not to any sickness.
They arrived at the apartment around 5:40PM, earlier than usual, because Madeleine was tired, their other friends were at the beach and Gerry had an all-male tennis game at 6:00PM.
FP - somebody, I don’t know which one of the group, did say they’d seen Kate run past”.
GERRY17h00, as usual, MADELEINE arrived accompanied by the teachers and the other children. After her arrival, MADELEJNE ate, [the meal] having ended at 17H30.
After 17H30 they went to the apartment, the deponent having entered by the main door, which he did not lock while he was inside the residence. KATE and the children entered by the rear door, after this had been opened from the inside by the deponent.
KATE Gerry continued playing tennis with a guest called Jxxxxn who belonged to his tennis group, while she went for a jog along the beach, for around half an hour. She saw the others of the group, children and grownups; she was disappointed as nobody had told her they were going to the beach and Madeleine would have loved to have gone with them. She cannot confirm whether she went to the apartment between the tennis game and the jog.
CB madeleine picked up by kate : 17-30
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THURSDAY 6.00pm - 7pm | Kate | Gerry | FP & DP | ROB & JT | MO & RM | DW | | 6:00 | Kate-6:00PM Gerry went to the tennis courts, soon after the children had finished their bath | GERRY-left at 18H00 for a tennis game only for men, at which were: DAN, tennis instructor; JULIAN, with whom he had played tennis several times; and CURTIS, with whom he had also played.
I went over to see err Gerry at the err you know tennis courts, | | MO -About 18h00 he, ROB and DP went to a social men'stennismatch, | | ROB me, Matt and Dave, erm, left everybody else down at the beach and headed back up to the, to the, erm, the apartments, well to the Tapas anyway
so I left err with err Russell, we left the, err the girls at the restaurant and we went up to the, err back up to the Ocean Club. but I remember then you know I went over to see err Gerry at the err you know tennis courts, |
| MO-About 18h00 he, ROB and DP went to a social men'stennis match,
ROB-me, Matt and Dave, erm, left everybody else down at the beach and headed back up to the, to the, erm, the apartments, well to the Tapas anyway
DP Err I, as I say I’m not sure you know what happened to Matt and Russell at that particular moment | About 18h00 he, ROB and DP went to a social men'stennismatch,
ROB- me, Matt and Dave, erm, left everybody else down at the beach and headed back up to the, to the, erm, the apartments, well to the Tapas anyway
DP-Err I, as I say I’m not sure you know what happened to Matt and Russell at that particular moment | | | jt -Kate was at the apartment(1) putting the children to bed.
mo -, with KM and her childrenwatching the match,
KATE After the children’s bath, already alone, she put pijamas and nappies on the twins, gave them each a glass of milk and biscuits. | mo-GM wasalready there
DP Gerry had asked me just to pop in and check everything was alright | jt -around 6.20pm, they went past the tennis court and they saw all the men, including Gerald McCann, on the court.
jt-(re men)about quarter past six they, they all went up to, erm, to the men’s tennis
just to see you know what was happening, and err decided that we’d, you know I’d come, come back to play tennis and err Gerry had asked me just to pop in and check everything was alright | | jt around 6.20pm, they went past the tennis court and they sawall the men, including Gerald McCann, on the court. | | | jt (re men) about quarter past six they, they all went up to, erm, to the men’s tennis |
| | jt around 6.20pm, they went past the tennis court and they sawall the men, including Gerald McCann, on the court. | | | jt (re men) -about quarter past six they, they all went up to, erm, to the men’s tennis |
| | | Kate had a shower which lasted around 5 minutes.After showering, at around 6:30/6:40PM and while she was getting dry, she heardsomebody knocking at the verandah door.
David was at the apartment for around 30 seconds, he didn’t actually enter the flat,
The three children were all you know dressed you know in their pyjamas | jGerry was
there, he was playing, he was playing tennis��? | | Gerry During the afternoon of that day the rest of the group members, including the children, were at the beach, [they] having returned at 18H30, the time at which he saw DP next to the tennis court | | KM-6:30/6:40PM it was David Payne, because he called outand had opened the door slightly.David was at the apartment for around 30 seconds, he didn’t actually enter the flat,
he then left for the tennis courts where Gerry was. The time was around 6:30-6:40PM |
j we followed up probably about quarter of an
hour later with all the kids and we went to the play area by the tennis courts and had
a, you know, we probably stayed there for about half an hour or so
DP-So I walked back err from the tennis courts, err back to err you know Kate and Gerry’s apartment
I went into their apartment through the patio doors. | Gerry During the afternoon of that day the rest of the group members, including the children, were at the beach, [they] having returned at 18H30
j we followed up probably about quarter of an
hour later with all the kids and we went to the play area by the tennis courts and had
a, you know, we probably stayed there for about half an hour or so
, | | Gerry During the afternoon of that day the rest of the group members, including the children, were at the beach, [they] having returned at 18H30, | | | |
j we followed up probably about quarter of an
hour later with all the kids and we went to the play area by the tennis courts and had
a, you know, we probably stayed there for about half an hour or so
| | Gerry During the afternoon of that day the rest of the group members, including the children, were at the beach, [they] having returned at 18H30, | | | |
j we followed up probably about quarter of an
hour later with all the kids and we went to the play area by the tennis courts and had
a, you know, we probably stayed there for about half an hour or so
| | | but he decided that he’d, he’d played enough tennis for that day and err was going back | I left there, went and got my stuff, went back to the tennis courts and then err there was me, Matt and Russell and I think Gerry played a little, for a little while but he decided that he’d, he’d played enough tennis for that day and err was going back and so it left with me, | there was me, Matt and Russell and I think Gerry played a little, | there was me, Matt and Russell and I think Gerry played a little, | |
6pm
JT may 4
Russell O'Brien, Matthew Oldfield and David Payne left the beach (7) a little earlier to go to the tennis court for men's tennis night. When the group came back from the beach (7) at around 6.20pm, they went past the tennis court and they saw all the men, including Gerald McCann, on the court. (8) They stayed to talk to them for around 20 to 30 minutes. Gerald McCann behaved normally. The interviewee supposed that Kate was at the apartment (1) putting the children to bed. Around 7pm, they went to their own apartments (1) with the children. The interviewee bathed her two daughters, read them a story to send them to sleep. As **** was unwell and had difficulty going to sleep, she stayed with her father who, meantime, had returned. The interviewee went to dinner at the, "Tapas," restaurant at around 8.30pm.
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“Erm, so what was I saying, sorry, I got side tracked there. I was, so we’d come back
for the tennis, yeah, we’d sent them back to the tennis”.
4078 “That’s right”.
Reply “Because we thought ‘It’s not fair that they’ve’”.
4078 “That’s where we were, yeah”.
Reply “Yeah”.
4078 “I’m struggling to remember as well”.
Reply “Yeah, it’s not fair that they’ve changed the time for us and then they don’t go. So
they went back up at that point and then we followed up probably about quarter of an
hour later with all the kids and we went to the play area by the tennis courts and had
a, you know, we probably stayed there for about half an hour or so. At that point, I’m
not, I can’t say how long that was, about half an hour”.
4078 “Were Madeleine and the”.
Reply “No, they weren’t there. No, they weren’t there. Yeah, they’d most, but Gerry was
there, he was playing, he was playing tennis”.
26.56 4078 “Right”.
Reply “Yeah. Erm, so, yeah, we stayed there for a bit and then took the children back and
got them, you know, bathed and blah blah and got them ready for bed, but that was
probably, by that stage that was probably, erm, half seven’ish probably I’d say, by the
time we, we went back, if not maybe even a bit later, I’m not sure, but around then,
around the seven o’clock mark”.
4078 “Nothing different to the rest of the holiday really?”
Reply “No, no, no, just, erm, yeah, it was the same, we’d done that almost every night. I
think, I think both of them had a bit of a screaming fit that night, because I can
remember them being quite bad when they got into bed, because I think they just lost
it. And also I think Exxxx was, because Russell was still playing tennis she was like
‘Where’s daddy, why is he not putting me to bed’, so there was a bit of that as well.
But I can remember them being, being a bit, err, it was tiredness, they were doing so
much in the day that they did kick off a bit when we got back to the room, but. Erm,
so, yeah, I think Russell came back, I think they were supposed to finish at half seven
and it was around, I think they had a bit of, but it went on a bit longer, so they were
probably back about, he was probably back about quarter to eight. And then put the,
and they weren’t, Exxxx and Exx weren’t in bed at that point, erm, I think they, it was
probably about quarter past eight by the time we actually put them, them in, them
into bed.
Matt Oldfield's statement of 10th May regarding 3rd May
About 18h00 he, ROB and DP went to a social men's tennis match, held in the above resort area, where they remained until about 19h00. He clarifies that when they arrived at that meeting GM was already there, with KM and her children watching the match, the rest of the women and children joining them [KM and children] later.
GERRY That they bathed the children, the deponent having left at 18H00 for a tennis game only for men, at which were: DAN, tennis instructor; JULIAN, with whom he had played tennis several times; and CURTIS, with whom he had also played.
KATE At the flat they both bathed the children, and close to 6:00PM Gerry went to the tennis courts, soon after the children had finished their bath. They entered the apartment by the main door, with the key. She does not know if it was locked, and presumes it was Gerry who opened it. At lunch time they also entered by the same door.
Gerry During the afternoon of that day the rest of the group members, including the children, were at the beach, [they] having returned at 18H30, the time at which he saw DP next to the tennis court.
. DAVID went to visit KATE and the children and returned close to 19H00
KATE After the children’s bath, already alone, she put pijamas and nappies on the twins, gave them each a glass of milk and biscuits. Before bathing the children and because it was early, they had thought of taking them to the recreation area, but then decided against this because of tiredness.
While the children were eating and looking at some books, Kate had a shower which lasted around 5 minutes.After showering, at around 6:30/6:40PM and while she was getting dry, she heard somebody knocking at the verandah door. She wrapped herself in a towel and went to see who it was. This door was closed but not locked as Gerry had left by this door. She confirmed it was David Payne, because he called out and had opened the door slightly. David’s visit was to help her to take the children to the recreation area. When David returned from the beach he was with Gerry at the tennis courts, and it was Gerry who asked him to help Kate with taking the children to the recreation area, which had been arranged but did not take place. David was at the apartment for around 30 seconds, he didn’t actually enter the flat, he remained at the verandah door. According to her he then left for the tennis courts where Gerry was. The time was around 6:30-6:40PM.
Jane Tanner
Thursday night was actually the men’s night of tennis
normally it started at half six but we’d asked ‘Could the
social tennis start at six��? so that they then gave us time to get the kids into bed afterwards��?
j remember saying to Russell and Matt and everything, it was about quarter past six, I said ‘Oh you’ve got to go to the men’s night tennis because they’ve
changed the times for us and now you’re not blo*dy going��? you know, that sort of, it
was that sort of thing. So I think at about quarter past six they, they all went up to, erm, to the men’s tennis��?
j we followed up probably about quarter of an
hour later with all the kids and we went to the play area by the tennis courts and had
a, you know, we probably stayed there for about half an hour or so
jGerry was
there, he was playing, he was playing tennis��?
ROB
around the six o’clock mark we were, we were having such a good time down there we were, we were half tempted to, for the men not to go back to what was planned up at the Tapas, erm, namely a sort of men’s social tennis round, you know, which I think was due to start at six. And I think as it got around six we thought it’s not really fair, you know, three of us not going there, there might not be enough players, you know, there wasn’t a full resort, so me, Matt and Dave, erm, left everybody else down at the beach and headed back up to the, to the, erm, the apartments, well to the Tapas anyway
DP -
Err after we had the meal we got some ice cream and then err we decided that we were gonna go up and play tennis so I left err with err Russell, we left the, err the girls at the restaurant and we went up to the, err back up to the Ocean Club. Err I, as I say I’m not sure you know what happened to Matt and Russell at that particular moment but I remember then you know I went over to see err Gerry at the err you know tennis courts, just to see you know what was happening, and err decided that we’d, you know I’d come, come back to play tennis and err Gerry had asked me just to pop in and check everything was alright err with Kate or you know again I can’t remember the exact reason whether he was just making sure it was alright that he could stay there and you know more time but you know he’d asked me to pop in. So I walked back err from the tennis courts, err back to err you know Kate and Gerry’s apartment and the time you know looking at, you know we’ve looked obviously at photographs since then and you know the time that we’ve got that I was you know going to Kate’s about six thirty, err and I went into their apartment through the patio doors. The three children were all you know dressed you know in their pyjamas, you know they looked immaculate, you know they were just like angels, they all looked so happy and well looked after and content and I said to Kate, you know it’s a bit early for the you know, for the three of them to be going to bed, she said ah they’ve had such a great time, they’re really tired and you know err so I say, you know I can’t remember exactly what, what you know the night attire, what the children were wearing but white was the predominant err colour, but you know just to reinforce they were just so happy, you know seeing you know obviously Gerry wasn’t there but they were just all, just so at peace and you know they looked like a family who’d had such a fantastic time and err yeah then I left there, went and got my stuff, went back to the tennis courts and then err there was me, Matt and Russell and I think Gerry played a little, for a little while but he decided that he’d, he’d played enough tennis for that day and err was going back and so it left with me,
Russell and err Matt and err Dan who was the, the you know the tennis coach from Mark Warner. Err so we played some tennis and you know we were having a good knock and then it was getting a bit late so err we, you know we left the tennis courts, went back to our respective partners to get ready to go out, you know it was, it was, you know certainly after half past seven that we’d, you know we’d left the courts, perhaps even a bit later than that. Err when I got back err I think because Fiona had done a lot of babysitting and left me playing tennis she said well I’m gonna go for a very quick run so she went for a run on the beach, you know, err got the kids ready, bathed, got them ready for err to go to bed but again you know as we’d got back late err from the tennis courts you know the whole time err for that evening was not, you know later.
FP
- then I remember it getting to tennis time, because it was men’s tennis that night and the men had all rearranged the time to suit us and it was getting towards six o’clock and, you know, they were going to be late, so I remember saying ‘Look, you better go because it’s not fair, you’ve moved the time then you’ll be late’. Erm, so I think that, that was sort of approaching five to six.
And we were toying with the idea of getting the kids ice creams for pudding and then thought oh we probably don’t have time, but then we decided well, you know, why don’t you go off and go to your tennis and we’ll just give them their ice cream and follow on.
And so I think they left probably about, you know, that being Matt and Dave and Russell, around five to six, six o’clock time.
And the, you know, the wives stayed behind with the kids, they had ice cream and then we followed on about ten past six
and we just walked back up to, to watch them play a bit of tennis and give the kids, you know, a little playtime. Erm, and I don’t think we stayed there that long that night because the kids were pretty, pretty tired.
I don’t know who was playing who, but there was certainly Gerry, Matt, erm, you know, Russ and Dave,erm, and typically being men, it was all quite competitive and, erm, and far different to the women’s tennis. Erm,
Kate and the kids, I think, as I said earlier, weren’t there and, you know, they, as Gerry said, were just absolutely knackered and Kate was getting them bathed and ready for bed.
it wasn’t a surprise that they weren’t there. Erm, and I know Dave had said to me later, because he, erm, after tennis he’d said he’d checked on Kate and the kids before going to tennis”.
“How did that come into your conversation?”
Reply
“Because he was saying how angelic they all looked and he said to Kate when we all sat down at the Tapas table as well and he was sort of joking how they looked like perfect children, because they were all sat there, all clean in their pyjamas, having a story”.
1485
“Yeah. But when did he, specifically, when did he tell you?”
Reply
“I think it was when we were getting the kids ready for bed and we were back in our apartment”.
MO -
So we finished and set off, probably about twenty past six, sometime around there, because it was after when we’d got them to move, we were already late, so I think if we’d said, if they’d move it to six thirty and we’re setting off at six twenty, I would have been happy that we could have made it there in time, but we’d already gone past the time when I thought we won’t be able to go because we were already so late”.
00.07.20 4078 “Was that you, David and”.
Reply “Russell”.
4078 “Russell”.
Reply “It was men’s social. Erm, so we went back up, erm, back to, well I went back to the apartment, got the tennis gear and back onto the courts or back to the courts area, erm, and the other guys went to get their stuff. Erm, and I think Dave said that he’d been to the apartment, but I don’t know that for definite, that’s just something I think has come out, I didn’t know anything about that. So we went, got our stuff and came back to the courts, which were already in play, because the social had already started. And Gerry was down playing on a court, I think there was only three of them, I think the, erm, the coach, whose name I can’t remember, the tennis coach, the blonde haired bloke, erm, was playing to make up the numbers. And so we waited and watched for a little while, so we didn’t get on court until, phew, sometime closer to seven,
DP
- So where were you going then? Presumably you weren’t going to play tennis were you? When you left the beach, what was…”
Reply "Yeah, oh yes that was always the intention and that’s what Fiona was saying, look if you’re actually gonna do anything tonight you’d better get yourselves up there and it’s getting quite late so that was, you know, that’s the reason we’d all gone ahead because we waited till the children had finished eating and err got in the prams and got up there, you know it takes another five ten minutes on top walking back with them, err then you know we’d have lost the opportunity. Err again, presuming that you know the tennis was usually around six thirty, that if you know, if we’re leaving the restaurant you know, quarter past six or whatever, around that time, that you know if we’d leave it much longer with it taking ten minutes or whatever to walk up just to start the tennis at half six, you know we were already cutting it fine and I think as it transpired we were playing tennis till you know even beyond there, it was quarter to seven, or around then and err you know if we’d have left it much later then we just thought well it’s gonna finish, so.”
00:33:29 1485 "Right, were you going for a lesson or were you actually going to play?”
Reply "We were gonna play, there was obviously me, Matt and Russ, and Gerry was making up the four, fourth err person.”
1485 "But he was already playing?”
Reply "Yeah he’d already been playing and that’s partly the reason that he kind of like threw in the towel early and said ah you know I’ve had, enough’s enough, I’ve had a good day and err but then we managed to get Dan, the pro, just to play a bit with us err you know so that made up the four ball err just for a little while.”
1485 "So your four…”
Reply "Yeah.”
1485 "Was yourself, Matt, Russell and…”
Reply "Well it started off with Gerry and we had a bit with him and then Dan played a bit.”
1485 "And Dan, Dan replaced Gerry then did he?”
Reply "Yeah.”
1485 "How far through the game was that?”
Reply "I can’t remember.”
1485 "Sets wise?”
Reply "Err you know whether we played one, you know again this is just, yeah usually we’d play a set and then change over so most likely it would be Gerry played a set and then left, that was most likely how it happened.”
1485 "Okay, and it was at what point that Gerry said to you go and, would you mind checking at Kate?”
Reply "Well I mean coming back from the beach I’d got no equipment to play tennis you know, etcetera, so I had to go back to my room to you know change into stuff appropriate for playing tennis in, and err so he knew that I’d walk up that by and past so he said oh why don’t you err, you know can you just pop in on the way, the way up, so it was on the way back from me picking the stuff up.”
1485 "Right, so you’ve walked past, you’ve walked past Gerry’s apartment to get to yours.”
Reply "Mm.”
1485 "Got changed?”
Reply "No, you know it was, again whether it was, in my mind it was on the way up that I’d popped in to Kate but it could have been on the way back, again, I’m sorry.”
1485 "No, it’s okay.”
Reply "For my vagueness.”
00:35:21 1485 "But either way you’d have had to walk past because you go the roadside don’t you?”
Reply "Yeah.”
1485 "So you’d have had to walk past Gerry’s…”
Reply "Yeah.”
1485 "Front door twice wouldn’t you?”
Reply "Yeah.”
1485 "Is that right?”
Reply "So, the reason why I think it was more likely that I did it on the way there was because I’ve called in through the err patio, it kind of made more sense that I’d have walked in through the gate and then up through the you know where the sliding doors are to say I’m here, rather than going up to my apartment, coming back down, coming past the apartment and then coming in the sliding doors.”
1485 "Yeah.”
Reply "Because what I would have done is I’d have got changed and gone downstairs and then knocked on the front door because that, you know that would have made more sense rather than going all the way round and…”
1485 "Yeah, course.”
Reply "So that’s in my mind why it makes more sense that it was, that that was on the way up.”
1485 "Right, so how long did you spend in your apartment before, I know you, I appreciate that you can’t recall whether it’s going or coming.”
Reply "Yeah.”
1485 "The likelihood is that it’s on the way.”
Reply "Yeah.”
1485 "How long did you spend in your apartment?”
00:36:24 Reply "I mean again, we’ve you know, we’ve chatted about the timings and everything and you know looked at the photographs and you know, you know we were leaving about quarter past six from the err restaurant, we’d gotta walk up there, ten, fifteen minutes, conversation with Gerry, conversation with Kate, you know that’s another five, ten minutes on to your ten, fifteen minutes walk so you’re talking twenty five minutes, so that’s taken you to twenty five to, twenty to seven, well you know we were certainly playing tennis for a, you know the best part of an hour err so you know it couldn’t have been long that I was in the apartment, you know a matter of minutes.”
1485 "Yeah.”
Reply "You know just to pick the kit up and, and then go back down really.”
1485 "Did you have your own racquet?”
Reply "I didn’t, no, I was using the, err Mark Warner’s racquets.”
1485 "Mark Warner’s, okay. I just want to revisit the going and seeing Kate before we move on.”
Reply "Mm.”
1485 "Alright, and the reason why I’ve kept it separate is because I want you to just think now.”
Reply "Mm.”
1485 "And imagine, remember what you saw.”
Reply "Mm.”
1485 "Did you open the door, slid door? Or was it already open? Or…”
Reply "Err I think it was already open, I think it was already open. Err you know, as I say, I walked up there, Kate was you know I say looking very relaxed and err I say a comment to her I said well crikey it’s early, early for them to be getting ready you know for bed, as I say she said ah no, I’ve had such a good, you know such a good day and afternoon err so you know, and Gerry’s just obviously finishing off playing tennis and err so you know hopefully try and get them down and as I say we were just, you know I, I know, it does sound bizarre but I just looked at the three of them and I couldn’t, you know they were just so well presented and so clean and immaculate it was, you know I was, and you know they just looked such healthy children, err you know, there’s, there’s you know nothing that normally…”
1485 "Yeah.”
00:38:36 Reply "Triggers in my mind like that but it was just how well that they looked and err…”
1485 "Try to remember where in, where they were in the apartment.
Err, I mean the, the time that I was there err you know all, all of them err all the children and Kate were in the, err as soon as you go through the patio doors err you know they were all in the immediate area you know in front of you, err that was the area that they generally, you know when I saw them, so I didn’t, no I didn’t go any further into the apartment, you know it was just a conversation that I like, you know walked into the, you know through the French doors, I went into the lounge err you know the open plan area and err you know just had a brief conversation, you know things started off by as I say, saying about the, how well they looked and you know, it’s early to get them ready for bed and then I said oh Gerry’s, you know just finished over there, we’re going over to play a bit of tennis, err I probably said is there any problems with that and she said ah no, no fine, you know carry on, and err you know perhaps a bit more of a conversation err but you know it, it wasn’t many minutes that I was, was there.”
1485 "Yeah.”
00:39:55 Reply "But err certainly enough time just to see, you know, certainly the apartment, there was nothing that was untoward, that was you know err the children all looked extremely happy, there was no, you know signs of any problems with err you know Kate, you know or indeed the relationship that Kate had got with any of the three children. None of the children had been told off, none of the children looked like they were you know in trouble for anything, you know they were err still all talking and playing around. Err so you know it was just a very err transient you know that I’d gone in there, but as I say it just struck me how well they all looked.”
1485 "Yeah.”
Reply "And content I suppose is the other word to use.”
1485 "Did you actually go into the apartment?”
Reply "I did.”
1485 "Or did you do the conversation from the door?”
Reply "No, definitely was inside the apartment, you know whether it be two or three steps into the apartment or you know however many, but I was definitely in the apartment.”
00:41:00 1485 "Okay, so now what I’m gonna try and ask you to recollect, what everybody was wearing.”
Reply "I’m afraid that is, you know I’m, I cannot recall at all. I know that’s, you’d think that’d be an obvious thing to remember, I cannot remember. As I say the, from the children point of view predominantly I can remember the, you know, white, but I couldn’t say exactly what they were wearing. Err…”
1485 "But could you remember what Kate was wearing for example?”
Reply "I can’t, no.”
1485 "And did you actually set eyes on each individual child?”
Reply "All three children I saw, yeah.”
1485 "And were they standing up? Sitting down?”
Reply "Err they were generally standing up, yeah.”
1485 "Did they actually acknowledge you?”
Reply "Err oh yeah, you know I’m very sure that if you’d have asked them, you know that evening or the next day they’d all say ah yeah, I popped in. You know I, you know I did know the children very well, we’d all you know, met up many times before err you know I, you know again I’d be playing with Madeleine you know in the, err the play area err you know during that week, you know lifting her up, twizzing her round and everything, I knew her that well, you know, to do that, and as I say err she’d definitely know who I was and certainly, as I say, just to reinforce that she looked very happy.”
1485 "Yeah. Was that the last time you saw Madeleine?”
00:42:39 Reply "It was.”
1485 "How many minutes, you said as a matter of minutes and then you went back and then you played tennis.”
Reply "Mm.”
1485 "I’m gonna pin you down and ask you how long you think you were in there for. I know you say minutes.”
Reply "In their apartment, it, it, I’d say three minutes, five maximum.”
1485 "Three to five?”
Reply "Yeah.”
1485 "So then you step back out, did you leave the doors open or did you close them?”
Reply "Err I couldn’t remember. You know, again, I’ve got the, in my mind that the doors were open when I went in and I probably would have just walked out back that way, you know, it still, I mean it’s still relatively nice outside, it was light and everything so err you know I, I, whether they kept the door open it’s just nice when it’s the end of the evening you know, sorry, you know the end of the afternoon, but if I’m perfectly honest the answer to that question is I can’t remember
Okay. So then you went back and then you played, you played a game for about an hour?”
Reply "Yeah.”
1485 "You think from seven, from about seven till about eight?”
Reply "Yeah, I mean it must, I mean it was before, I mean we got back before eight o’ clock err you know so perhaps just before seven, err sorry, err yeah just before seven so it was just before eight o’ clock. As I say when I got back I think I was cutting it fine and Fiona was still keen to go for a run and we started to get everyone ready for bed.”
1485 "Yeah.”
Reply "And err so it was, as I say, about an hour but certainly we’d finished before eight o’ clock.”
00:44:18 1485 "Okay, and when you finished, I’m just trying to put this in order here, when you actually, when you finished and you went back to the apartment, did you say anything to Gerry about, about the fact that his family were fine? Or…”
Reply "Yeah, err yeah, I haven’t mentioned this before, but yes, yeah I’d certainly, when we met up I said oh yeah, you know everything’s fine there, you know probably along the lines of you know you’ve got a bit more of a free pass you know you can carry on for a bit longer, Kate’s fine without everyone you know all the children are, are happy, there’s no difficulties with bath time or anything so you know, without actually saying all that just conveying to him that you know I don’t think you need to err rush back, you’ve got a free pass for a bit longer.”
1485 "Alright.”
Reply "Err yeah.”
1485 "So was that as soon as you got back to the, to the tennis courts?”
Reply "Yeah that would have been when we got back.”
1485 "When you got back to the tennis courts as opposed to at the end of the tennis session.”
Reply "Yeah, yeah, yeah.”
1485 "Okay, and was he fine with that?”
Reply "Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, again, you know it’s difficult with cameras and everything, you don’t want to sound (inaudible) or anything, but you know he’s a very sorted person, a very caring person and that’s the kind of thing, you know he’s very organised.”
1485 "Yeah.”
Reply "And you know he will make sure everything’s fine and sorted before you know the, the, he’d carry on and do something for his own benefit if you like. So you know he was certainly one to, he would have wanted to know before you know continuing.”
00:45:45 1485 "Okay. We’ve talked, you’ve talked about you know, you’ve gone back and you’ve got ready and Fiona’s gone for a run.”
Err my recollection was that we were just got, you know we were round there, I thought we’d actually entered into the Tapas bar to just…”
1485 "Actually into the complex?”
Reply "Just, just into the complex, but certainly we hadn’t made it yet to the swimming pool but it was just, just about there.”
1485 "Okay.”
Reply "Err yeah.”
00:46:42 1485 "And what time do you think that was?”
Reply "Err we were, we were just before nine, you know just before nine o’ clock err we yeah we went between quarter to and nine o’ clock.”
1485 "And then you sat down, after the comments of course that you…”
Reply "Yes, yeah.”
1485 "Who was there when you got, when you got to the table?”
Reply "Err well, as I say, Gerry was sat next to me, err on my left, and then there was this choice of where Dianne was gonna sit with err, err Matt and err Russell, so those people had to be there, Kate was obviously there, Fiona had walked down with, as well, and err and as for Rachael and Jane I, I cannot say a hundred percent that they were there.”
1485 "What was Gerry doing when you got there?”
Reply "Err I, again my recollection is we sat down and I just started talking to him, but I’m not sure whether that is entirely correct, whether he was having a conversation with somebody else before and then you know I just started talking but my recollection we started, you know, not far after we’d sat down we just started talking and you know, and I say we were just saying, you know what we’d both done and what a fantastic day that we’d had err you know and I know beyond the call of this interview but you know I’d had a lot of stress you know with work and over the last few years and you know it’s, it’s you know two, two young children it’s not been a particularly easy time and you know and for me that was the first day in many, many a month that I’d really enjoyed it and then Gerry had reciprocated and said we also had one of the best days that we’d had in many, many a month. You know that is my recollection of the first thing that happened on that table, but just, whether its because it was such a positive conversation that we’d had, which override the fact that there was other things that had happened before I wouldn’t like to say but in my mind that was the first thing that had happened.”
1485 "Yeah. So did you notice that he got up to go and check Madeleine, or to check his children?”
00:49:10 Reply "Yeah, I mean I, you know I know the people who left the table but I couldn’t tell you what order they left in and I couldn’t tell you what the time is that they left. You know, people have chatted about it, you know we’ve read about it and I’m not prepared to say well I think this is what happened because I’m sure my view’s been tainted by, you know, what we’ve read and what we’ve seen.”
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Title: Timetable AFTER 10pm Disappearance (With phone info)
| TIME | KATE | GERRY | ROB | MO | DP | FP | JT | RMO | DW | 10.00pm
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Gerald searched the apartment and stated that the window of the children's bedroom was open and the shutter raised. He checked the shutter before continuing to search outside.
David Payne ran from the McCann's apartment towards the Millennium area. Then he turned in the direction of the church.
Russell O'Brien was in the McCann's apartment for a moment only, rushing out to search the perimeter of the apartment. Then he went to look for Madeleine with Matthew Oldfield. They went in the direction of the beach. He searched the perimeter of the tennis courts and the paths leading to the beach. Russell searched the gardens and all of the surrounding area.
Fiona searched the periphery of the complex ' one search, which she made alone. When she returned she spent the rest of the night with Kate.
It is difficult to confirm where all the elements were in the minutes/ hours after the discovery that Madeleine was missing. It appears that most of the women remained within or near the apartments, Fiona Payne left and searched around the complex, before returning to the McCann's apartment where she stayed with Kate.
The men's movements, however, are more difficult to pinpoint.
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| Gerry must have rushed in with Kate
the next thing I can
remember is seeing Kate and Fiona, they came running from the direction of Kate’s flat
-then they just
carried on, carried on the searching. They were sort of running around,
after we checked on G***e and come out and I think perhaps Kate and Fi were standing by the window, like on the outside of the apartment and no, Kate, I think Kate had said you know, somebody’s taken her, cos the shutter was up and the window was open, erm yeah, I think it was then that we kind of realised that she’d been taken,
10.10And who was present when she was telling you this”?
Reply “No just me, just me, cos erm Fi was with Kate and, and Gerry
some people went directly into the flat initially,erm, included,includingGerry and, and Kate, | Gerry must have rushed in with Kate
10.10And who was present when she was telling you this”?
Reply “No just me, just me, cos erm Fi was with Kate and, and Gerry
some people went directly into the flat initially,erm, included,includingGerry and, and Kate,
Dave, Matt and I think initially at least Gerry,just said ‘Look, let’s just’, erm, ‘let’s just split up and find’, erm, you know, ‘see if we can find her, see if she’s just wandered out’. | we didn’t go in at that point,
Dave, erm, Matt, Russell and myself split up in four different directions just to do a search
we all just got up and, erm, erm, and, and left with the exception of Dianne who, who I think stayed, who stayed at the chair. We then got up to the foot of the, of the apartment and, erm, you know, clearly, you know, a state of, you know, growing, growing panic. Erm, some people went directly into the flat initially, erm, included, including Gerry and, and Kate, others just stayed at the, at the, at the gate, erm, on the road leading down beside the apartment.
Dave, Matt and I think initially at least Gerry,just said ‘Look, let’s just’, erm, ‘let’s just split up and find’, erm, you know, ‘see if we can find her, seeif she’s just wandered out’. So everyone did a little bit of a search just in the, in the immediate area and I went along the passageway which was in front of the patio, the patio entrances of, of the apartments, erm, round, all the way along that initially, I think, and unbeknown to me at this point, because we hadn’t really used this entrance a great deal, certainly not walked to the other end of it, it was actually a dead-end, so I then had a look in the, in the front gardens of, of the apartments on the ground floor that you could see, searched a little bit just in between the two apartments and obviously this was a fairly brief search and rapidly doubled back
| we didn’t go in at that point,
Dave, erm, Matt, Russell and myself split up in four different directions just to do a search
Then he went to look for Madeleine with Matthew Oldfield. They went in the direction of the beach. He searched the perimeter of the tennis courts and the paths leading to the beach. Russell searched the gardens and all of the surrounding area.
then Matt and I went round and went to our apartment to check on G***e, erm and she was there,NOTE: Jane tanner only saw Rachael
then going to talk to Jane and Matt went off
10.10Matt sort of went back and I think he went off to sort of look a bit more and searchand he, he went down to call the Police at the main reception of the Ocean Club
Dave, Matt and I think initially at least Gerry,just said ‘Look, let’s just’, erm, ‘let’s just split up and find’, erm, you know, ‘see if we can find her, see if she’s just wandered out’. | we didn’t go in at that point,
Dave, erm, Matt, Russell and myself split up in four different directions just to do a search
David Payne ran from the McCann's apartment towards the Millennium area. Then he turned in the direction of the church.
Dave, Matt and I think initially at least Gerry,just said ‘Look, let’s just’, erm, ‘let’s just split up and find’, erm, you know, ‘see if we can find her, see if she’s just wandered out’.
| she sort of raced back and she just appeared at the doors of the sort of reception area and just shouted across, erm, ‘She’s gone. Gerry, Madeleine’s gone’
we didn’t go in at that point,
I went round the back of the apartments and round the back of the tennis courts on the main road and then cut down in front of the Baptista Supermarket and back up,
(NOTE: Did she first go with Kate to check theblinds at the front?)
Fiona searched the periphery of the complex ' one search, which she made alone. When she returned she spent the rest of the night with Kate.
the next thing I can
remember is seeing Kate and Fiona, they came running from the direction of Kate’s flat
Fi started running upstairs and that’s when I ran to Fi and said what I thought, you know, I said ‘I think I’ve seen somebody’
-then they just
carried on, carried on the searching. They were sort of running around,
after we checked on G***e and come out and I think perhaps Kate and Fi were standing by the window, like on the outside of the apartment and no, Kate, I think Kate had said you know, somebody’s taken her, cos the shutter was up and the window was open, erm yeah, I think it was then that we kind of realised that she’d been taken,
10.10And who was present when she was telling you this”?
Reply “No just me, just me, cos erm Fi was with Kate and, and Gerry | I looked out of the window to check, to see if I could see them still there, and that’s when the only person I could see still at the table was, erm, Dianne and everybody else seemed to have, seemed to have gone.
it was Rachael that I saw first because
she had run back I think to check that G***e was obviously okay
-she said ‘Oh Madeleine’s
gone’ or, you know, something along those lines.
the next thing I can
remember is seeing Kate and Fiona, they came running from the direction of Kate’s flat
Fi started running upstairs and that’s when I ran to Fi and said what I thought, you know, I said ‘I think I’ve seen somebody’
I just stayed, erm, me and Rachael just stayed with, in our own, but we were sort of out in the alley, in the sort of stairwell outside our rooms, and we were sort of staying with the kids at that point, so we weren’t actually involved in any physical running around, searching”.
just standing
outside the, the door of the apartment mostly, I didn’t really move. trying to, you know, see what was happening. But, no, I was more or less at the bottom, as I say, at the bottom of the stairs, I’d come down”.
So what time did Jane tell you this”?
Reply “Itmust have been about, erm ten past ten or something, quarter past ten I guess”.
other people had just came back from the immediate vicinity as well and it was established obviously that no-one had, had found her. I’m not entirely sure whether I went round to quickly see Jane at this point or whether it was after my next, erm, my next search, |
about five to ten then or ten o’clock, so Kate said you know, she’d go up and check, do her check andwithin a couple of minutes later she came back and shouting Madeleine’s gone you know, and then we all just leapt up from the table and went up to her, followed her and Gerry, erm up to their apartment
I didn’t go into the apartment,standing at the bottom of the steps by the patio doors and I think Matt and Russell might have been having a look in the garden, erm and then Matt and I went round and went to our apartment to check on G***e, erm and she was there,NOTE: Jane tanner only saw Rachael
Well literally like you know a minute,
Matt sort of went back and I think he went off to sort of look a bit more and search and he, he went down to call the Police at the main reception of the Ocean Club, erm and I just stayed near our apartment really
then going to talk to Jane and Matt went off
after we checked on G***e and come out and I think perhaps Kate and Fi were standing by the window, like on the outside of the apartment and no, Kate, I think Kate had said you know, somebody’s taken her, cos the shutter was up and the window was open, erm yeah, I think it was then that we kind of realised that she’d been taken,
-So what time did Jane tell you this”?
Reply “Itmust have been about, erm ten past ten or something, quarter past ten I guess”.
And who was present when she was telling you this”?
Reply “No just me, just me, cos erm Fi was with Kate and, and Gerry
we didn’t go in at that point,
Rachel Mampilly went to see her own daughter before o
ing to meet Jane in her apartment. When they talked Jane told her that when she had gone to check on the children she saw Gerry and Jez talking together as well as a man carrying a child.
it was Rachael that I saw first because
she had run back I think to check that G***e was obviously okay
I just stayed, erm, me and Rachael just stayed with, in our own, but we were sort of out in the alley, in the sort of stairwell outside our rooms, and we were sort of staying with the kids at that point, so we weren’t actually involved in any physical running around, searching”.
Rachael, because
G***e was asleep, she was more moving around more,
| said to mum, you know, ‘You stay put here just in case Madeleine comes down to the pool area’
After waiting at the restaurant table for five minutes, Dianne Webster went to the McCann's apartment where she entered the children's bedroom and saw Kate with the twins. Kate insisted on the fact that the window and shutterswere open when she saw the children, Dianne went outside to see if she could raise the shutter from the outside and found it to be impossible. Dianne stayed in the McCann's apartment for about 5 minutes and then returned to the restaurant to fetch her bag, the McCann's camera and the baby monitor. |
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He (DP) searched the rocky areas of the beach/coast and checked the stands and boats. He then returned to the Ocean Club reception, passing the Millennium area. David then checked the area around the walls together with Matthew Oldfield.
He (ROB)searched the eastern part of the beach, zigzagging back along the roads to the McCann's apartment. All the time more people were joining in the search andRussell knew the police had been contacted
When Matthew saw that Madeleine was not in the apartment, he went to the 24 hours reception to ask them to telephone the police.
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| At that point, Gerry, I don’t think was in the apartment, it was mainly Kate. And Kate was just, huh, utter disbelief and I had disbelief, thinking she’s got to be here, you know, what, how can this have happened. | Gerry, he was to’ing and fro’ing, in and out, in and out
At that point, Gerry, I don’t think was in the apartment, it was mainly Kate. And Kate was just, huh, utter disbelief and I had disbelief, thinking she’s got to be here, you know, what, how can this have happened. | He searched the eastern part of the beach, zigzagging back along the roads to the McCann's apartment. All the time more people were joining in the search andRussell knew the police had been contacted
other people had just came back from the immediate vicinity as well and it was established obviously that no-one had, had found her. I’m not entirely sure whether I went round to quickly see Jane at this point or whether it was after my next, erm, my next search,
I think then we decided that we just needed to look a little bit further afield, erm, and I went round the, the front of the apartments, the high side of the apartments, had a look along there,
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at some point or other me, Matt and Dave found ourselves either back at the flat or, or, or, together somewhere nearby and decided that we would, erm, head down to the beach
ROB
I then went, I think around the back, or the front really, where the car park and the apartments are, to the main road, dropping down into the, into the town centre, erm, I forget the name of it, and went down round the back of the tennis courts, looking in there, round the back of the Baptista Supermarket where there’s a car park area and a bit of derelict ground, erm, and then into the Shopping Centre, which is the bottom two or three floors of a of a relatively large building just down the hill. Erm, so that is a separate, erm, sort of search, after coming back to the foot of the apartment and clarifying that, that Madeleine hadn’t been found in the immediate vicinity
On the way back from the Shopping Centre’, in the next paragraph, I met Dave and he was running down the hill with a, with, you know, sort of panic in his eyes, saying ‘This is really bad, this is bad, they haven’t found her’. There was obviously, a number of minutes had passed by this point, while we were looking individually”.
1578 “So ‘I met Dave on the return’?”
| When Matthew saw that Madeleine was not in the apartment, he went to the 24 hours reception to ask them to telephone the police.
at some point or other me, Matt and Dave found ourselves either back at the flat or, or, or, together somewhere nearby and decided that we would, erm, head down to the beach
I remember saying to Matt at that point ‘You go down to main reception and phone the Police’
| He searched the rocky areas of the beach/coast and checked the stands and boats. He then returned to the Ocean Club reception, passing the Millennium area.
On the way back from the Shopping Centre’, in the next paragraph, I met Dave and he was running down the hill with a, with, you know, sort of panic in his eyes, saying ‘This is really bad, this is bad, they haven’t found her’. There was obviously, a number of minutes had passed by this point, while we were looking individually”.
1578 “So ‘I met Dave on the return’?”
Dave came in and, erm, he came in initially with me, erm, when I went to Kate, I don’t think he went in any of the bedrooms, I think he was just mainly in the living room trying to put together what they should all be doing really, he was talking more to Gerry, so he was in | by the time I got back everyone else had done their loop Erm, I remember saying to Matt at that point ‘You go down to main reception and phone the Police’
-don’t know what Matt, I don’t know what Dave and Russell did at that point. I said ‘I’m going to go up to the’, erm, ‘Kate and Gerry’s apartment’. Gerry had come down at that point.
stayed with Kate for the rest of the evening, I didn’t, other than going onto their sort of balcony and out the front area of their apartment, I was with Kate.
- I didn’t, other than going onto their sort of balcony and out the front area of their apartment, I was with Kate.
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And I looked, I looked throughout the whole apartment and I looked in all the cupboards, under the drawers, under the beds, behind the curtains, everywhere, erm, just, you know, trying to, knowing it had already been done, but you just do. Erm, tut, I looked, when I went into the room that Madeleine was sleeping in, the room was dark, Madeleine, erm, Madeleine’s bed was sort of folded back, the sheets, quite kind of neatly really, erm, Sean and Amelie were fast asleep in their cots, they didn’t stir, you know, I was opening the cupboards in the room and moving around the room, they didn’t stir at all, which that was, that was odd.
I went to the front of the house and I was trying to lift the shutter at the, at the back, just to prove whether, you know, whether it could have been opened and whether Madeleine could have opened it from the inside”.
“Or did you do it from the inside?”
“I did it from, I’m talking about, so, again, the back or the front, I did it from the back, which is where their balcony was”.
| | | She then immediately returned to the McCann's apartment. Gerry and Kate were in the apartment as well as Fiona. Fiona asked Dianne to stay with Lily and Scarlet to check that they were ok. Dianne returned to the Payne apartment and stayed there for the rest of the nigh |
10.30pm
Afterwards(ROB) he searched the adjacent apartments to the east of Kate and Gerry along the Rua da Ramalhete and more apartments to the east. On some occasions David Payne was with him.
Matthew spent most of the night searching the neighbouring areas for Madeleine without success. Matthew searched the road between the apartment and the Creche. He searched between the apartment and the Millennium restaurant, also along the beach and finally a cemetery as well as the road leading back to the apartment. Part of this search was carried out with David Payne and Russell O'Brien and part was carried out alone. Matthew talked to an Indian insurance salesman and saw Nathan, the director of the beach concession.
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| she was angry, really angry, tut, punching walls, kicking walls, she was covered in bruises the next day, because she just didn’t know what, what else to do. She was angry at herself, she kept saying ‘I’ve let her down. We’ve let her down Gerry’, you know, ‘We should have been here’. Erm, tut, she was praying a lot. Erm, I just don’t think she knew what to do, what to do. And she was just howling. It was just, just awful. I think as time went on it just seemed a massive delay from when we said to Matt to phone the Police, erm, that hour, it was an hour, it just seemed like an eternity,
And Kate’s ringing, Gerry’s ringing anybody under the sun, family, they just don’t, they honestly just didn’t know what to do
there was a lot of, Gerry’s in and out, I mean, they were just sobbing, going between sobbing and then feeling helpless and then ringing people and this frantic activity. Kate was desperate to have a Priest, which, you know, people find weird, but I think that was just her way of thinking ‘At least I can pray for Madeleine’ and her way of feeling that she was doing something. Erm, tut, but she wasn’t functioning”.
she kept going into the twins, she kept putting her hands on the twins to check they were breathing, she was very much concerned in checking that they were okay. | And Kate’s ringing, Gerry’s ringing anybody under the sun, family, they just don’t, they honestly just didn’t know what to do
there was a lot of, Gerry’s in and out, I mean, they were just sobbing, going between sobbing and then feeling helpless and then ringing people and this frantic activity. Kate was desperate to have a Priest, which, you know, people find weird, but I think that was just her way of thinking ‘At least I can pray for Madeleine’ and her way of feeling that she was doing something. Erm, tut, but she wasn’t functioning”.
I was kind of talk to Gerry and then every now and then I’d go back and check on G***e, erm at one point, probably not that long after, maybeabout ten thirty or something,Gerry and I looked at, up at the stairwell and kind of across all the floors of the block that we were in, erm and that was really the, that was all the searching that I really did, just up the stairs, I think they were five floors or something”.
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It was just really a quick you know, it would have been about five minutes, it was just up the flights and along the, you know the sort of verandas in front of the apartments | So the three of us swept down through a number of roads, erm, and then came out down at the, you know, down on the beachfront and I think by this point we thought it, you know, it was fairly futile searching as a three so we split up and took sections of the beach
me and Dave kind of headed along towards where the majority of the beach was in the other direction
I got myself almost over to where this Café Paradiso or Restaurant Paradiso is, along the boardwalks and out to the, to the water edge,
I found there that you could, if looking back, you, it wasn’t perfect, but you could see a fair amount of the beach and as well, and also be able to look at the waterline as well. Erm, went along there for a bit towards Black Rock, erm, and then, and then at some point decided to turn, to turn back
I didn’t see Russell or any of the other group in, in Kate and Gerry’s apartment.
| David then checked the area around the walls together with Matthew Oldfield.
Matthew spent most of the night searching the neighbouring areas for Madeleine without success. Matthew searched the road between the apartment and the Creche. He searched between the apartment and the Millennium restaurant, also along the beach and finally a cemetery as well as the road leading back to the apartment. Part of this search was carried out with David Payne and Russell O'Brien and part was carried out alone. Matthew talked to an Indian insurance salesman and saw Nathan, the director of the beach concession.
So the three of us swept down through a number of roads, erm, and then came out down at the, you know, down on the beachfront and I think by this point we thought it, you know, it was fairly futile searching as a three so we split up and took sections of the beach
I think Matt looked immediately around where we had come out on the beach,
I didn’t see Russell or any of the other group in, in Kate and Gerry’s apartment.
| David then checked the area around the walls together with Matthew Oldfield.
So the three of us swept down through a number of roads, erm, and then came out down at the, you know, down on the beachfront and I think by this point we thought it, you know, it was fairly futile searching as a three so we split up and took sections of the beach
me and Dave kind of headed along towards where the majority of the beach was in the other direction
Dave started searching on that part of the beach and I got myself almost over to where this Café Paradiso or Restaurant Paradiso is, along the boardwalks and out to the, to the water edge,
| | 20:30:21 Jane Tanner texts Charlotte Gorrod (a friend who was in Luz at the time) | I was kind of talk to Gerry and then every now and then I’d go back and check on G***e, erm at one point, probably not that long after, maybeabout ten thirty or something,Gerry and I looked at, up at the stairwell and kind of across all the floors of the block that we were in, erm and that was really the, that was all the searching that I really did, just up the stairs, I think they were five floors or something”.
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It was just really a quick you know, it would have been aboutfive minutes, it was just up the flights and along the, you know the sort of verandas in front of the apartments
then I went back downstairs and really just sort of stood by Jane and we were just waiting for the Police to come, erm which you know took ages, I remember ringing Matt at least once or twice to say you know, look have you rung them, where are they, erm and I think at one point he did come back up again and the Police still hadn’t arrived and I think Gerry’s told him to go back down and ring them again, erm and then, I you know, didn’t really see him much or at all, I think they went off searching sort of down at the beach and around the village, | |
| 10.45pm | | Gerry’s told him (Matt) to go back down and ring them again, | I didn’t go all the way, turned back, as I came back, erm, you now, I bumped into the, the woman I described before, early twenties, fair hair, given the light, English, possibly a MARK WARNER employee,
and then did a, a, a comb through various streets, erm, not with any great, erm, plan but just to try and cover some area on the way back up to the, the apartments. And then obviously got back up to the apartments
by the time we got back from this I think, you know, there was, there were other people were certainly starting to congregate and, in fact, I think some people were starting to search, mainly staff from MARK WARNER
I probably went round to Jane before I’d done this, this sort of leg to the beach and back, but it may have been, it may have been that I actually went round at this point.
Jane was stood in the doorway, I think almost certainly with Rachael, possibly with Fiona as well. Erm, and, you know, I went up and she was, you know, clearly very, very distressed, | 22:45:05 xxxx texts Matthew Oldfield
22:51:24 Rachael Oldfield calls Matthew Oldfield for 15 seconds
22:58:29 Matthew texts Rachael
22:59:12 Rachael texts Matthew
I remember ringing Matt at least once or twice to say you know, look have you rung them, where are they, erm and I think at one point he did come back up again and the Police still hadn’t arrived
I think Gerry’s told him to go back down and ring them again, erm and then, I you know, didn’t really see him much or at all, I think they went off searching sort of down at the beach and around the village, | | | , before I spoke to the Police is some of the, I
think when they realised she was missing, MARK WARNER sort of got everybody
searching and I can remember some of the Nannies coming to the door and they took
my number, my phone number, my mobile number and said ‘If we hear anything
we’ll give you, we’ll let you know’ and that was three of the Nannies. And Exx was
still up at that time because I can remember them sort of, you know, saying ‘Oh hi
Exx’,
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22:45:05 xxxx texts Matthew Oldfield
22:51:24 Rachael Oldfield calls Matthew Oldfield for 15 seconds
22:58:29 Matthew texts Rachael
22:59:12 Rachael texts Matthew
“Erm well most of the time I spent talking to Jane and sort of checking on G***e, erm and saw, I remember the nannies coming up to talk to us, some of the Mark WARNER nannies and they’d been searching and looking round the village and sort of you know, rallying friends and people that they knew, erm I mean we were waiting for the Police for a lot of that time cos they didn’t turn up for ages | |
| 11.00pm | when the Police came they turned the lights on, there was loads of noise, obviously from the moment Kate discovered that Madeleine was gone, the screaming and the shouting and there was a lot of noise and they, they didn’t, you know, so much as blink”.
23:14:51 Gerry called Kate for 8 seconds
| 23:14:51 Gerry called Kate for 8 seconds
| | 23:00:18 Matthew texts Rachael
23:05:44 Matthew texts Rachael
23:06:17 Rachael calls Matthew for 59 seconds
23:24:31 Rachael texts Matthew | | | as soon, the Police, when the Police came, I know Rachael went straight away to get them to say, so that I could tell the GNR, | 23:00:18 Matthew texts Rachael
23:05:44 Matthew texts Rachael
23:06:17 Rachael calls Matthew for 59 seconds
when the GNR did arrive, erm you know, they came to say hello and erm Sylvia was there with them and so was Robert MURAT, erm there were other people sort of milling around in the background but Sylvia introduced herself and so did Robert MURAT, erm I mean he just introduced himself to me as Robert and we shook hands, erm and then sort of remember talking to somebody from I think, think (inaudible) one of the apartments on the floor above, sort of an older guy, kind of said oh he went missing when he was a child for about ten days
as soon, the Police, when the Police came, I know Rachael went straight away to get them to say, so that I could tell the GNR, | |
| 11.15pm | 23:14
Gerry called Kate for 8 seconds
23:17:06 Gerry called Kate for 31 seconds
23:17:52 xxxx texts Kate
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23:14
Gerry called Kate for 8 seconds
23:17:06 Gerry called Kate for 31 seconds
| | | | | | 23:24:31 Rachael texts Matthew
after the Police arrived, erm I mean we were just you know talking about what we should do and then I thought of ringing James LANDALE and you know seeing if we could get it on the news, erm and made those phone calls, erm and then the PJ arrived, I don’t know what time that was though, probablyabout two-ish or something, | |
| 11.30pm | | 23:40:00 Gerry calls sister Trish Cameron for 00:11:13 | | | | | | | | | 11.45pm | | 23:52:18 Gerry calls Kennedy’s of Leicester for 00:02:30
| | | | | | | | | MIDNIGHT | 00:00:27 Kate calls her Mum & Dad for 128 seconds
00:11:01 Jane Tanner calls Dianne Webster’s home (says Fiona used her phone) for 6 seconds
00:13:50 Kate calls her Mum & Dad for 407 seconds
| 00:05:00 Gerry calls Kennedy’s of Leicester for 3 seconds
00:05:45 Gerry calls sister Trish Cameron for 3 seconds
00:06:15 Gerry calls Kennedy’s of Leicester for 00:02:47
00:13:14 Gerry calls sister Trish Cameron for 3 seconds | | 00:08:01 Matthew texts Rachael
00:08:12 xxxx texts Matthew (says in his interview that he doesn't recognise the number | | | | | |
| 12.15am | | 00:20:00 Gerry calls sister Philomena McCann
00:21:36 Gerry calls sister Trish Cameron for 23 seconds
00:23:12 Gerry calls brother John’s mobile for 00:03:55
00:27:07 Trish Cameron calls Gerry for 00:02:28
00:29:37 Angela Morado (British Consulate) calls Gerry for 00:04:53
| | 00:20:08 Rachael texts Matthew
| | 00:20:37 Jane Tanner calls Dianne Webster’s home (says Fiona used her phone) for 22 seconds
00:21:41 Jane Tanner calls Dianne Webster’s home (says Fiona used her phone) for 3 seconds
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00:20:37 Jane Tanner calls Dianne Webster’s home (says Fiona used her phone) for 22 seconds
00:21:41 Jane Tanner calls Dianne Webster’s home (says Fiona used her phone) for 3 seconds
| 00:20:08 Rachael texts Matthew
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| 12.30am | 00:36:21 Kate calls xxxx for 31 seconds
00:37:05 xxxx texts Kate
00:39:58 Kate calls xxxx for 34 seconds
00:40:50 xxxx texts Kate
| 00:38:40 Sister Philomena calls Gerry for 00:06:40
| | | | | | | 00:34:31 Dianne Webster calls home for 478 seconds
| | 12.45am |
00:45:49 Kate calls xxxx (Possibly Parents) for 31 seconds
00:47:23 Aurelio Mendes Guerreiro (Pat Perkin’s friend, owner of the Pacifico Bar, Vilamoura, 1 hour drive East of Luz) calls Kate (but speaks to a male) for 239 seconds
00:53:08 xxxx texts Kate
| 00:45:15 Kennedy’s of Leicester call Gerry for 00:01:18
00:47:41 Angela Morado (British Consulate) calls Gerry for 00:02:15 | | | | | | | | | 1.00am | 01:02:08 Aurelio Mendes Guerreiro (Pat Perkin’s friend, owner of the Pacifico Bar, Vilamoura, 1 hour drive East of Luz) calls Kate for 223 seconds
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| 1.15am | | 01:16:11 Gerry calls Angela Morado (British Consulate) for 00:01:57
01:29:58 Sister Philomena calls Gerry for 00:03:36
| | | 01:17:17 David Payne calls Dianne Webster for 92 seconds | | | | 01:17:17 David Payne calls Dianne Webster for 92 seconds | | 1.30am | | 01:43:55 xxxx (Possibly mum Eileen) calls Gerry for 00:03:29
| | | | | | 01:42:55 Rachael calls Kath Landale for 75 seconds
01:58:33 Kath Landale calls Rachael for 00:06:58
| | | 1.45am | | | | | | | | | | |
| 2.00am | 02:07:03 Kate activates Luz Centro 2 Antenna - No further info available | | | | | | | | | | 2.15am | 02:18:29 xxxx texts Kate
02:20:03 Kate activates Luz Centro 2 Antenna
02:21:12 Kate texts xxxx
02:23:27 xxxx texts Kate
02:27:28 Kate calls xxxx
| | | | | | | 02:22:45 Kath Landale calls Rachael for 125 seconds | | | 2.30am | 02:33:28 xxxx (Possibly the BBC or British Embassy) calls Rachael for 692 seconds
02:33:38 xxxx texts Matthew
02:38:58 Lynda & Mark McQueen landline calls Kate for 585 seconds
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| KATE | GERRY | ROB | MO | DP | FP | JT | RMO | DW | | 2.45am | 02:53:49 Kate called Jon & Michelle Corner for 16 seconds
| | | | | | | | | | 3.00am | 03:05:03 xxxx (Possibly Paul Seddon - McCann Priest) texts Kate
03:06:17 Kate texts xxxx (Possibly Paul Seddon)
03:06:54 Kate called Jon & Michelle Corner for 5 seconds
03:07:38 Kate calls Jon Corner Mobile for 3 seconds
03:08:33 Kate called Jon & Michelle Corner for 3 seconds
03:09:05 Kate called Jon & Michelle Corner for 4 seconds
03:10:29 Kate calls xxxx for 10 seconds
| | | | | | | | | | 3.15am | 03:20:21 Kate called Jon & Michelle Corner for 14 seconds
03:23:28 Jon Corner Mobile calls Kate for 184 seconds
03:28:46 Jon Corner Mobile calls Kate for 416 seconds
| | | I think we went to bed about three, maybe might have been a bit later but we did think we ought to go and get some sleep, erm cos there wasn’t really much that we could do, | | | | I think we went to bed about three, maybe might have been a bit later but we did think we ought to go and get some sleep, erm cos there wasn’t really much that we could do, | | | 3.30am | 03:31:13 xxxx texts Kate
03:39:04 xxxx (Possibly the BBC or British Embassy) calls Rachael for 207 seconds | | | | | | | | | | 3.45am | 03:55:21 Jon Corner (Mobile) texts Kate
03:55:56 Kate texts Jon Corner (Mobile)
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| 4.00am | 04:03:44 Jon Corner (Mobile) texts Kate
04:05:40 Kate texts Jon Corner (Mobile)
04:12:33 Kate texts Jon Corner (Mobile)
| 04:14:44 Gerry texts xxxx
| | | | | | | | | 4.15am |
04:22:12 xxxx texts Kate
| 04:19:02 xxxx (Possibly Sandy Cameron mobile) texts Gerry
04:20:34 Brother John (mobile) texts Gerry | | | | | | | | | 4.30am | 04:31:30 Jon Corner (Mobile) texts Kate
04:36:30 xxxx (Unidentified UK Mobile) calls Kate for 1727 seconds
(just less than half hour)
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"About 23:00 that night I received a very embarrassed call from my wife's mother who told me about Madeleine's disappearance. Aunt Nora, from Canada, was in Skipton and was about to return to Canada the next morning. I suggested I drive Nora back to Liverpool. We all thought that Madeleine was going to appear in the following hours, therefore I drove Nora back to Liverpool in the early morning of Friday, 4 May. I stayed in Liverpool.I spoke to Kate by phone between 10:00 and 11:00am that morningand she confirmed that she wanted her mother, her father and Nora with her."
Hmmmm....in the early morning. Conveniently vague, but I imagine MW took Nora there straight away, say at midnight, to join Sue, Brian and PP who may have been about to finish her duty by then.
Between 10 and 11.Well, if harmony's ident is correct, he spoke to her for 28 minutes between 4 and 5, never mind 10 and 11.
0422 KM receives text from Eileen (GM's mother). Eileen had rung her son at 0144, and had to do so again at 0723 and 0751 - the mean bar-steward wouldn't ring her. Eileen had also texted KM on 2 May at 0853. She must be a typical doting mother - no doubt she still thinks the sun shines forth out of their posteriors. Or Gerry's, anyway.
0436 MW? rings KM for 28m 45s.
0455 KM replies to Eileen's text. | | | | | | | | | | 4.45am | 04:52:16 Kate texts Jon Corner (Mobile)
04:55:54 Kate texts xxxx
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| 5.00am | | | | | | | | | | | 5.15am | | | | | | | | | | | 5.30am | | | | | | | | | | | 5.45am | | | | | | | | | | | 6.00am | 06:02:08 Susan Healy mobile texts Kate
06:04:11 Kate texts her Mum’s mobile
06:05:29 Kate calls Amanda’s home landline for 702 seconds
06:08:17 Jon Corner (Mobile) texts Kate
06:18:17 Kate texts Jon Corner (Mobile)
06:34:53 xxxx texts Kate
06:39:38 Kate texts Jon Corner (Mobile)
06:47:42 Jon Corner (Mobile) texts Kate
06:59:12 Jon Corner (Mobile) texts Kate
06:59:44 Kate texts Jon Corner (Mobile)
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06:26:30 xxxx (Possibly the BBC or British Embassy) calls Rachael for 447 seconds
06:38:39 xxxx (Possibly the BBC or British Embassy) calls Rachael for 262 seconds
G***e was always up sort of about six, half six, erm and when we got up you know everything was quiet outside, they didn’t seem you know the Police didn’t seem to be around or, there didn’t seem to be any activity, | |
| 7.00am | 07:41:14 Jill Renwick calls Kate for 210 seconds
07:44:48 Kate activates Luz Centro 1 Antenna (Withheld)
07:46:36 Kate activates Luz2 Antenna - (Withheld)
07:48:12 xxxx calls Kate
| 07:06:06 xxxx (Possibly Sandy Cameron mobile) texts Gerry
07:09:04 Brother John (mobile) calls Gerry for 00:03:26
07:15:19 Gerry calls Angela Morado (British Consulate) for 00:04:51
07:23:20 xxxx calls Gerry for 00:05:53
07:51:14 xxxx (Possibly Gerry’s mum Eileen) calls Gerry for 00:01:26
| | | | | | 07:52:58 Rachael calls xxxx for 00:01:14
07:55:26 xxxx (Possibly the BBC or British Embassy) calls Rachael for 00:01:45
07:57:55 xxxx (Leicestershire landline) calls Rachael for 00:02:04
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| 8.00am |
08:06:14 Susan Healy (Mum’s) mobile texts Kate
08:07:52 Kate texts her Mum’s (Susan Healy) mobile
08:11:55 Jill Renwick calls Kate for 116 seconds
08:27:26 xxxx texts Kate
08:28:50 Kate texts xxxx (same number as above) back
08:29:56 xxxx (same number again) texts Kate back
08:31 Kate called Jon & Michelle Corner
08:31 Kate called Michelle Corner Mobile
08:31:21 Jill Renwick calls Kate for 153 seconds
08:34:09 Kate calls xxxx for 32 seconds
08:34:19 Kate calls Jon Corner Mobile for 61 seconds
08:34:59 xxxx (Possibly Message Centre) texts Kate
08:35:31 Kate calls xxxx for 20 seconds
08:36:03 Kate calls xxxx for 37 seconds
08:45:20 Kate calls xxxx
08:51:42 Kate texts xxxx
08:52:41 Kate calls Jon Corner Mobile for 75 seconds
08:56:15 Kate calls Nuala for 47 seconds
08:57:17 Jill Renwick texts Kate
| 08:35:15 Gerry calls Angela Morado (British Consulate) for 00:01:43
08:50:27 Gerry calls Angela Morado (British Consulate) for 00:04:47
| 08:13:19 Russell O’Brien calls his mum on home landline in Liverpool for 169 seconds
| Matt took G***e up for breakfast to the Millennium, erm and they came back, | 08:09:56 Simon Green, DP's Brother-in-Law, calls David Payne for 71 seconds
08:53:07 David Payne calls his Mum for 127 seconds
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08:05:11 xxxx (Possibly the BBC or British Embassy) calls Rachael for 00:00:42
08:06:13 Rachael’s Mum texts Rachael
08:08:14 Rachael calls xxxx for 00:02:07
08:08:18 xxxx texts Rachael
08:10:31 Rachael calls Voicemail Retrieval for 00:00:49
08:11:27 xxxx texts Rachael
08:13:19 Rachael calls xxxx for 00:05:26 (Network/Location withheld)
08:20:44 (Possibly the BBC or British Embassy) calls Rachael for 00:01:44
08:33:32 (Possibly the BBC or British Embassy) calls Rachael for 76 seconds
08:42:14 xxxx (Possibly the BBC or British Embassy) calls Rachael for 00:07:43
08:46:50 xxxx texts Rachael
08:50:32 Rachael calls xxxx for 00:00:50
08:53:56 xxxx calls Rachael for 00:11:42
08:57:37 Kath Landale texts Rachael
I remember having, sort of being on the phone a little bit to the BBC I think that morning, erm and then sort of various phone calls, I talked to John CORNER who’s a friend of Gerry and Kate’s, erm cos the BBC wanted a picture of Madeleine, erm and he had some photos that he was going to be able to send them | |
| 9.00am |
09:09:32 Jon Corner (Mobile) texts Kate
09:09:44 Jon Corner (Mobile) texts Kate
09:10:39 Kate activates Luz2 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.
09:12:04 Kate activates Luz2 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.
09:25:51 xxxx texts Kate
09:26:03 xxxx texts Kate
09:29:18 Jill Renwick texts Kate
09:30:02 Kate activates Luz2 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.
09:33:22 Jon & Michelle Corner call Kate for 335 seconds
09:33:25 Kate calls xxxx for 57 seconds
09:34:42 901 (Message Centre?) texts Kate
09:37:04 Jon Corner (Mobile) texts Kate
09:41:09 xxxx texts Gerry
09:45:21 Fiona & Richard (from Leicester) call Kate for 105 seconds
09:46:23 Jill Renwick texts Kate
09:47:48 Kate calls 901 (Message Centre?) for 58 seconds
09:49:50 xxxx texts Kate
09:50:23 xxxx texts Kate
09:50:38 Kate texts xxxx
09:51:12 Kate activates Luz Centro 2 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.
09:55:14 Kate activates Luz Centro 2 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.
09:58:53 xxxx texts Kate
09:59:20 xxxx texts Kate
09:59:31 xxxx texts Kate
| 09:01:55 xxxx calls Gerry for 00:01:45
09:04:16 xxxx (Possibly Gerry’s mum Eileen ) calls Gerry for 00:01:28
09:05:38 NUMBER WITHHELD / BLANKED OUT calls Gerry for 00:02:12
09:14:28 xxxx calls Gerry for 00:03:58
09:16:07 xxxx texts Gerry
09:30:47 xxxx texts Gerry
09:35:51 Gerry texts xxxx
09:41:52 NUMBER WITHHELD / BLANKED OUT calls Gerry for 00:07:07
09:49:01 xxxx calls Gerry for 00:01:42
09:57:04 xxxx calls Gerry for 00:02:36
| | | 09:51:14 Simon Green, DP's Brother-in-Law, calls David Payne for 95 seconds
| | 09:04:46 Jane Tanner texts Charlotte Gorrod
09:12:38 Jane Tanner calls her mum for 240 seconds
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09:02:44 xxxx texts Rachael
09:02:58 xxxx calls Rachael for 00:00:01
09:14:17 xxxx calls Rachael for 00:01:10
09:22:53 xxxx calls Rachael for 00:03:27
we would have taken G***e to crèche I think for about nine half nine I think | |
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10:01:06 Kate texts xxxx
10:03:06 Kate activates Luz 2 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.
10:06:23 xxxx calls Kate for 272 seconds
10:16:21 xxxx texts Kate
10:17:16 Kate activates Luz 2 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.
10:18:21 Jon Corner (Mobile) texts Kate
10:20:42 Kate calls her Mum’s Mobile for 171 seconds
10:26:38 xxxx calls Kate for 16 seconds
10:27:24 xxxx calls Kate for 54 seconds
10:30:22 Kate calls Fiona & Richard
10:33:20 Kate activates Lagos Centro DCS 3 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.
10:34:57 Kate activates Praia Porto MOS 3 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.
10:35:49 Geetisha Mobile calls Kate (activated Bensafrim 1 Antenna)
10:38:38 Kate activates Odiaxere Norte 2 Antenna
10:40:00 Kate activates Odiaxere Norte 1 Antenna
10:44:53 Kate activates Portimao 1 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.
10:45:24 xxxx calls Kate (Portimao 1 Antenna)
10:46:52 Kate activates Portimao DCS 2 Antenna
10:48:38 Kate activates Portimao Estadio DCS 3 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.
10:49:50 Kate activates Portimao Centro 3 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.
10:51:46 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna - No info. available. Kate’s full records not in files.
10:53:32 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna
10:55:45 Kate activates Portimao Centro 1 Antenna
10:57:51 Jill Renwick Mobile calls Kate (activates Portimao Centro DCS 1 Antenna)
about ten, half ten Gerry, Kate, Matt and Jane and maybe Dave as well, erm went to Portimão to the Police Station to start doing interviews”.
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10:01:17 Gerry calls Kate’s parents, The Healy’s, for 00:05:57
10:06:08 xxxx calls Gerry for 00:02:52
10:11:21 NUMBER WITHHELD / BLANKED OUT calls Gerry for 00:08:22
10:42:58 NUMBER WITHHELD calls Gerry (while on way to Portimao cop shop)
10:56:07 Brother John (mobile) calls Gerry (In Portimao) for 00:01:12
10:59:09 Kennedy’s of Leicester call Gerry (in Portimao) for 49 seconds
about ten, half tenGerry, Kate, Matt and Jane and maybe Dave as well, erm went to Portimão to the Police Station to start doing interviews”.
| 10:32:57 Russell texts Jane
10:49:43 Russell calls xxxx for 63 seconds
10:52:04 Russell calls his work (Prof AN - in France at the time) for 13 seconds
10:53:10 Russell calls another work colleague, TW, for 241 seconds
| about ten, half tenGerry, Kate, Matt and Jane and maybe Dave as well, erm went to Portimão to the Police Station to start doing interviews”.
| 10:16:32 Simon Green, DP's Brother-in-Law, texts David Payne
10:30:51 Simon Green, DP's Brother-in-Law, texts David Payne
| | 10:32:57 Russell texts Jane
about ten, half tenGerry, Kate, Matt and Jane and maybe Dave as well, erm went to Portimão to the Police Station to start doing interviews”.
| 10:17:35 xxxx calls Rachael for 253 seconds
10:31:06 xxxx calls Rachael for 261 seconds
10:55:48 xxxx (BBC or British Consulate?) calls Rachael for 210 seconds
| 10:26:04 Dianne Webster’s home (husband) calls Dianne’s Mobile for 860 seconds
10:45:31 Dianne Webster calls xxxx for 31 seconds
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Emma Knights (client support director) searched the beach area and asked Kate what Madeleine had been wearing. Shortly afterwards Emma returned to the McCann's apartment and stayed with Kate.
Gerald was seen and spoken to by Neil Berry and Raj Malu. They heard him calling for Madeleine when they were sitting on Neil's balcony, not far from the McCann's apartment. They both went down to talk to Gerald and helped in the search.
Both David Payne and Matthew Oldfield were seen by Emma Knights when she was on her way to the beach, the search area to which she was assigned by Lyndsey Johnson (child care director and search coordinator).
I’ll just say that. I think then we decided that we just needed to look a little bit further afield, erm, and I went round the, the front of the apartments, the high side of the apartments, had a look along there, erm, got to the, what I’m calling the main road that drops in from, erm, from the, from the motor, from the dual carriageway outside of town, and then looked, you know, down, you know, looked down the hill there, erm, towards the, the, erm, the western side of the tennis courts, erm, really looking, you know, either side of the road just to see if she was sort of wandering there, erm, and you could hear kind of ‘Madeleine’ being shouted pretty much everywhere around at this point. Erm, that, the next, after I kind of moved down a bit to the left, there was the Supermarket quite some distance away, but there’s a, there’s a, there’s a road and I think it had a car park or a, well certainly a car park but there was an area of sort of rough that you could probably, you know, it’s not tarmaced or anything, had a look around there, couldn’t see her. And then there’s, erm, there was an entrance into, erm, the building kind of opposite this, which is, is, which is like a Shopping Centre, erm, or at least the lower floors seemed to have a kind of a set of like a Curry House and a Bar and a few things and a swimming pool as well, and, huh, I can’t remember the layout in there very much, but I remember it being kind of split on, on at least sort of two levels, lots of little recesses around kind of, I think kind of shop windows and stuff. So I didn’t really know where I was going, I’d never been in it before, but, nonetheless, sort of wandered around the lower floor and didn’t find anything. I went up on, on, I think on the next floor up, as I came off the stairs and came round there was a, a small Coffee Bar or a Bar on the left and looked in there and asked, there was a, there was a, a man and a, erm, erm, presumably a barman in there, just, there was only a couple of people, and said, you know, ‘Have you seen a little girl’ and, I mean, I don’t know how much English they spoke, but they seemed to, they just sort of shrugged and said no. So then just around that area. And then, and then found my way out of the, the Shopping Centre and actually came out at the other end from where, well a different entrance, I didn’t come out the same way I don’t think, erm, and, erm, it was actually on the road that comes down in front of the Baptista Supermarket. I don’t know whether I searched a little bit more around there, but not long thereafter I met Dave coming down the road in front of the Supermarket, erm, just looking terrible, just pale, erm, you know, sort of, you know, sort of fear in his eyes, saying, you know, ‘This is’, erm, ‘This is really bad. This is bad’, you know, ‘No-one’s found her. No-one’s found her’. Erm, and I don’t know what happened at this point particularly, erm, whether we went around there, but at some point or other me, Matt and Dave found ourselves either back at the flat or, or, or, together somewhere nearby and decided that we would, erm, head down to the beach,
Sylvie, who was the translator, I’m not sure when she arrived whether it was before the Police arrived or after the Police arrived or whenever,
then when the PJ actually arrived they came and got me to go and talk to the, the PJ”.
I can’t remember what time of night that
is, but that might have been before the Police came as well or just after the Police, but
they’re the only other real people I can remember talking to”.(nannies)
’And a female member of staff possibly from MARK WARNER’?”
Reply “Yeah, she was certainly, yeah, she was, she was English, you know, clearly not a, not a local. Erm, next it says ‘We tried to find a picture of Madeleine’, I mean, it wasn’t so much struggling to get the picture, it was struggling to find the means of printing it. We had the cam, we had Kate’s camera, erm, the, what we were trying to do is find a picture that actually gave a good likeness, rather than just being any old shot it actually had, you know, a close-up of her, of her face. There were a lot of pictures on the camera but they were, you know, just at home and on, you know, in profile and things like that”.
We were searching for a printer and Kat, one of the Nannies, said she had a printer’. I’m pretty sure it was Kat.
So the pictures of Madeleine?”
Reply “On a digital camera”.
1578 “That were printed off?”
Reply “Yeah”.
1578 “Came from Kate’s camera”.
Reply “From Kate’s camera as far as I can remember, yeah. And the main issue was trying to find somewhere to print it”.
1578 “What about if we say ‘Kate checked her camera and found some pictures’?”
Reply “Yeah, yeah, or ‘Kate’s camera was checked’, I don’t think Kate was in no, in no state whatsoever to check her camera”.
1578 “Okay. So ‘We tried to find a picture of Madeleine’?”
Reply “Yeah”.
1578 “’Kate’s camera was checked’?”
Reply “Umm, ‘And Kat or one of the other Nannies went to their flat to retrieve a printer or something that would connect to a printer and then the pictures were printed in the office off the small reception portal’, there’s a little office in there”.
Kat was there and Leanne was there, but whether it was actually their printer or lead, I’m not sure. The rest of that paragraph, erm, is fine. Erm, I think Gerry, it was actually Rachael, where it says ‘I’m not sure who informed the Authorities or media about Madeleine’s disappearance’, it says ‘It may have been Gerry’, erm, oh I beg your pardon, it’s the Authorities there, it says ‘Authorities or media’. I think, erm, Gerry and Matt, erm, were the people who, who actually tried to get the Ocean Club to phone the Police but it wasn’t the media, so maybe delete, if you delete ‘or media’, because the person on the media, I think that was, I think that was Rachael”.
I loathe the media’ comma, just to make it, just to read. Erm, ‘A very low opinion of them’, full-stop. ‘David also’, ‘David was also keen to make use of the media and I think he may have conducted’, conducted, ‘may have sent an email but I’m not sure’, I think he was looking to do it but I don’t think, erm, I don’t think that actually happened”.
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POLICE RESPONSE Thanks to The Maddie Case Files for the Translated Statements
GNR Officer Statements
http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic18.html
PJ Officer Statements
http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic473.html
Apologies for layout...The tables are not being accomodating once posted.
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| | | | | | | | | 10.00pm | | | | | | | | | | | 10.15pm | | | | | | | | | | | 10.30pm | | | | | | | | | | | 10.45pm | 10.40 call received by GNR | gnr Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa -
when he was on patrol with his colleague Roque in the Odiaxere zone, they received a radio communication from the central, telling them to go to P da L, specifically to the OC resort reception where the father of a little girl who had gone missing was. When they were on their way to this place and in the Valverde area, they received a new communication, informing them that this was a very young child and that her father had called again. They continued on their way, now with urgency, heading for the main reception of the resort.
gnr José Maria Batista Roque
When they were on their way to this place and had reached the zone of Valverde he received another communication saying that this was a very young girl and that her father had called again. They continued on their way, now with urgency, heading for the main reception of the resort.
| | | | | | | | | 11.00pm | -José Maria Batista Roque
-Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa
Arrive OC Reception
| MPMiguel Goncalves Da Costa Palma -GNR traveled from Odiaxere and arrived at 11 -went immediately to the principal reception of the aforementioned establishment, where there was encountered the father of the missing child
gnr Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa
When they arrived they saw the girl’s father, a friend whom the witness describes as tall and blond, an OC employee and a translator who was also an OC employee, named Silvia Baptista.
He found it notable that when they were still at the main reception, the father kneeled down, laying his head on the ground and crying, at the same time as making an expression which the witness did not understand.
Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa
gnr JRWhen they arrived, they saw the girl’s father, a friend whom he cannot describe, an OC employee and a translator who was also an OC employee, named Silvia Batista.
After hearing about the circumstances of the disappearance (from the father with the help of translation) at a determined moment he thinks it was the father who told the translator that it was an abduction, at least this is how it was translated.
Antonio Freitas Silva 1st Sergeant GNR
Chief of the GNR Search and Rescue Team. He coordinated all the work carried out by the two sniffer dogs in the Luz zone and the immediate areas relating to the disappearance of the English minor Madeleine McCann from the Ocean Club.
• He remembers that on the 4th of May of the current year, around 23H00, they attempted to tentatively identify and thus reconstruct the path taken by the missing minor. They gave the dogs a Turkish bath towel which was supposedly used by the child in question. This operation was realised by two different dogs.
• That after having given the sniffer dog the towel and next to the residence of the missing girl, more specifically, next to apartment block 5A and 5, the first sniffer dog headed toward the door of that apartment. Immediately afterward, he headed in the direction of block 4, returned around block 5, and came down a road that exists between this block and the leisure area (pools, restaurants, etc). He turned right; in the direction of the aforementioned apartment and headed toward the main road. There, he crossed the street and next to the wall of block 6, turned right, and headed toward the contiguous parking area. More concretely, he headed next to a light post and sniffed the ground around that post. After this, he crossed the street again and headed toward the access zone to the restaurants and pool area, sniffing the door which was closed at that time. He again went to the parking zone, and at that point, lost the scent.
• When carrying out this operation with the second dog, he followed the same rout, took the same direction and headed toward the light post in the parking lot mentioned above. He sniffed the area and at that point appeared to have lost the scent. The only difference was that this dog did not head toward the entrance of the restaurant or the pool area.
• None of the dogs used in this search, after having been given the towel supposedly used by the child, entered into block 5 but went immediately to the street between the apartment and the leisure area. It should be taken into account that the second sniffer dog may have been conditioned by the first sniffer dog. That is to say that in the case of doubt, the second dog may have followed the second of the first.
• Taking into account the aforementioned results, he states that it can be confirmed with a certain degree of certainty that the missing child passed by that location, on that day or on a previous day. This situation can be explained by the nature of the terrain, that is, it is a small space enclosed by walls and as such lingering scents would take longer to dissipate.
Yesterday (08.05.2007) around 23H45, this search action was repeated but this time the dogs were sent into blocks 5 and 4 of the ‘Ocean Club’ resort. During this operation, and given the time that had passed combined with the heat, the results that were achieved are very relative given that the dog will confirm all the odours it scents, certainly alerting to those that are most active, namely due to the fact that the apartment was occupied. It is also noted that the dog’s perception in the interior may be affected by noise.
• The initial diligence carried out with first sniffer dog, after having sniffed the towel used in the previous operation, began searching and showing interest in some doors leading to other apartments. He did not show any interest or even approach other apartments. In none of these actions did the dog give the signal to his trainer, Soldado Fernandes. It is certain however, that the dog signalled next to apartments 5J, 5H, and 4G. He showed great interest in sniffing these doors and the immediate areas. Next to door 5H there were two bags of rubbish and the odour may have distracted the dog. Outside 4G was a tray of plates, cutlery and cloth napkins that had apparently been used. This apartment is where the parents of the missing child were staying (at the time). Concerning apartment 5J, the same may have been conditioned by the presence of people in the interior or he could have sniffed an odour that needed to be confirmed.
• He states that after the search inside block 5, and whilst in the exterior, the sniffer dog took the same route on 04.05.07, being the existent road of that apartment and the leisure area (pools and restaurant) and then went to the same parking area. At that point, the scent was lost. This situation may be related to the fact that the biggest concentration of odours are in that area and due to the fact that odours are better preserved near walls and away from major winds. It is certain that upon reaching the main road and turning right is where the biggest concentration of odours exist. This is where the dog lost interest.
• The second dog was taken through the same operation and also showed interest at the door of apartment 5J. This same dog jumped on his hind paws to the parapet of the veranda and raised his head as though in search of an odour. As related above, this interest could have been the result of various factors but it is certain that in this area the scent was intense. In the exterior, the sniffer dog immediately headed to the parking area next to block 6 and there apparently lost the scent.
• I would like to clarify that a search in a bad area, where a more intense odour perceived by the sniffer dog, such as in an urban area due to the large concentration of external odours, make it possible to confuse the dog. In this situation, search activity is very difficult as is the case when some time has passed since the event in question.
• Because he is asked, he states that in relation to this, it is difficult to evaluate precisely the work of the sniffer dog. It is clear that some conditions involved in this action augment the degree of uncertainty. The signalling of the dog may only signify that they are confirming an intense odour in a zone. On the other hand, given the interest of the dog(s) in some of the apartment doorways, this could signify nothing, but could also very well mean that the dog has caught the odour. The dog did not demonstrate to its owner that it had found the scent it was searching for.
Witness Statement of Pedro Miguel Esteves Fernandes gnr
That he is part of the Dog Search Team. In this capacity he serves as a scientific trainer and works with two sniffer dogs. He was asked to bring his team to the Luz zone (Lagos) related to the disappearance of the minor from the Ocean Club.
• On the 4th of May of the current year, around 22H30, he was asked to use the dogs in conjunction with a search that attempted to retrace the steps taken by the missing minor. His role was to use the dogs’ skills by allowing them to sniff a towel which had supposedly been used by the minor in question.
• That after the dogs were given this scent from the towel and near apartment 5A of block 5, the first sniffer dog headed to the door of that apartment. Immediately afterward, he turned to block 5, using a circumvented route to block 5, and came to the road between this block and the leisure area of the resort (pools, restaurant, etc), and turned to the left, or around the referred to apartment and headed to the main road. Having reached there, he crossed the road and next to a wall of block 6, crossed the road again, turned right and headed to the parking zone of the resort. More specifically, the dog went next to the light post and began smelling that location. After searching that zone, he again crossed the road and headed toward the entrance to the pool and restaurant area, and smelled the door which was closed at that hour. He turned again to the parking zone and stopped or lost the scent at this point.
• When he effected the same operation with the second dog, in general, this dog took the same route and headed to the light post and showed interest there and ended by losing the scent at this point. It should be stated that the one difference is that this second dog did not head toward the entrance to the restaurant and pool zone. But he does state that the dogs followed a ‘scent trail’, a signal for the animal who was working. He is certain that they were not conditioned in any direction.
• None of the dogs used in this search action, after having smelled the towel, went into block 5 but headed to the zone which gives access to the road between the apartment and the leisure area. He states it should be noted that the second dog may have been conditioned by the original path taken by the first sniffer dog as he may have smelled the first dog’s path taken.
• Taking into account the aforementioned result, he states that it can be confirmed with a certain degree of certainty that the missing minor passed that location, on the day of the events or before that date. This situation can be explained by the configuration/layout of the area. That space is reduced and flanked by walls. This helps to conserve scents that may otherwise be affected by winds, etc. He would like to clarify that these sniffer dogs are more used to effecting this type of work in rural settings where there is not such a great concentration of odours.
• Yesterday (08/05/07) around 23H45, this search action was repeated but was centred on the dogs inside blocks 5 and 4 of the resort. He adds that in this type of operation, given the time that had lapsed, and with the heat that could already be felt, the results obtained may be highly relative given that the dog will confirm all the scents it comes across. It is certain the dog will react to more active scents, namely because the apartment is occupied. Also, any noise perceived by the dog in the apartment may make the dog loose interest.
• Initiating the diligence, the first sniffer dog, after having smelled the towel used in the previous operation, began searching, it being certain that next to the doors of some apartment he demonstrated major interest whilst he did not even approach others. In none of these actions did the dog give him a signal that he had caught the scent of the missing child. It is certain however, that near apartment 5J, 5H and 4G, that the dog showed major interest in smelling the doors and the immediate areas. He states that next to 5H, there were two bags of rubbish which may condition the dog. Just outside apartment 4G was a tray with plates, cutlery and cloth napkins, apparently used. It is certain that this apartment is the one where the missing child’s parents were lodged (at the time). In relation to the dog’s interest at doorway 5J, the same may have been conditioned by the presence of people inside the apartment.
• After completing the search in the interior of block 5, verandas and apartment access, and whilst in the exterior, the sniffer dog took the same route he had taken on 04/05/07, being the road between that apartment and the leisure area—pool sand restaurant, and headed toward the same parking area. There he lost the scent of the search. This situation may be explained by the fact that the biggest concentration of odours in that location have been preserved and protected from the winds due to the adjoining walls. When this dog got to the main road, he turned right where a large dispersion of odours existed. Here the dog lost the scent.
• The second dog was submitted to the same operation. He too showed interest in the door of apartment 5J. Here he got up on his hind paws to the parapet of the veranda and raised his head in such a way as to catch the odour. As mentioned previously, this interest may be due to various factors but it is certain that at this location the dog scented an intense odour. In the exterior, the sniffer-dog immediately took the first road, heading toward the parking area next to block 6, and there lost the scent.
• He clarifies that a search in a rural area, where a scent is much more intense is immediately noted by the sniffer dog but in an urban area, the great concentration of external odours make it possible to confuse the dog, This makes searching difficult as does the time passed between the event and the search.
• When questioned, he states that in relation to an action of this nature, it is difficult to evalauate precisely the work of the dogs, even though he is well aware what these dogs are capable of. The conditions that surrounded this search made the degree of uncertainty that much greater. The dogs may have signified or confirmed intense odours in that zone, however, they may have also merely have given a confirmation of a scent. They did not demonstrate that they had detected the odour in question. |
.................. | 11.15pm | -José Maria Batista Roque
-Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa
11.10pm -Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
Commander of the Lagos GNR Post.Receives call
-José Maria Batista Roque
-Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa
| gnrMP-Following, this patrol went to the residence Inside, the deponent encountered the mother and two siblings of the missing minor
gnr NPAfter hearing about the circumstances of the disappearance (from the father with the help of translation) he does not remember whether the word abduction was mentioned, and he went in his police car, to the apartment, accompanied by the father, the friend and the translator. When he arrived at the apartment he saw that the wooden door, now referred to as the main door, was closed and he thinks someone who he cannot identify opened it. When he entered, there were other individual apart from the mother, he does not know how many but there was at least another couple present.
Then, with his colleague, he searched the apartment. He opened all the cupboards of the bedrooms, living room and kitchen and he checked under the beds and in the fridge. He did not see the washing machine. He did not see anything strange during the search and there was no sign of a break in. As regards the bed clothes of the child’s bed, he found it to have a normal disposition.
gnr JR
remembers that the window in the girl’s bedroom was closed with the blind raised up the space of the width of a hand. He does not remember the existence of curtains. The father indicated, through the translator, alleging that when the disappearance was discovered, the windows and blinds were open.
He found the parents to be nervous and anxious, he did not see any tears from either of them although they produced noises identical to crying. He did not feel that this was an abduction, although this was the line indicated by the father.
jr2After hearing what had happened he went to the exact site the girl had disappeared from accompanied by his colleague, Nelson Costa, the girl’s father, a woman acting as interpreter, whose surname was Ramos, and another individual, a friend of the girl’s father, whose name he does not remember.
He never spoke directly to the father or with any other persons of foreign nationality, the questions were formulated to the interpreter who acted an intermediary in the dialogue.
He remembers that inside the apartment Madeleine had disappeared from was the mother and another foreign woman, whom he assumed to be a friend of the family
Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
sergeant and is currently the Commander of the Lagos GNR Post.
At about 23.10/23.17 he heard from a telephone call from the Patrol Commander, Officer Roque, that there had been a disappearance at the OC resort, P da L.
He was told that (Roque) had already gone to main reception of the complex in Rua Direita and had met the father of the little girl who had appeared in the reception with a friend. Together with employee Silvia (service manager of the OC and who also acted as translator, the father (Gerald McCann) and the friend they went inside the apartment from which Madeleine McCann had disappeared. After Roque checked that the child was not in the apartment, he gathered information from the mother and father. He was told by the patrol, that the father had put forward a theory saying that it could have been an abduction. He was also told that there was a shutter that had been “raised”.
The witness, from the description and supposed seriousness of the facts related, ordered the immediate preservation of the scene, and said he would go to the site and communicate the facts to the PJ (this was done from the Post, he does not remember which officer did this but thinks it was Officer Patricio).
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-José Maria Batista Roque
-Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa | gnrMP- At reaching the location, the two elements that made up the patrol , the current witness and his colleague, Nelson Costas, proceeded into the interior of the apartment, with the goal of investigating the contours which eventually surrounded the disappearance of that minor;
. In this sentiment, the deponent states that they searched al the dependencies of the residence and all the pieces of furniture, in order to confirm the disappearance -- effectively confirming that that she was not in the interior;
gnr chiefJRJosé Maria Batista Roque- During the search he did not find anything strange apart from the bedclothes on Madeleine’s bed, which were too tidy, it appeared that she had been picked up of had left the bed with great care.
gnrADAntonio Henrique de Conceiçâo Duarte - he arrived at the site of the disappearance of the young girl on 3rd May of this year, about 25 to 30 minutes after the patrol.
Upon arriving at the site he was told that this was a case of abduction, this information being transmitted, he thinks, by the girl’s father. He was also informed by Silvia (head of maintenance at the resort) that the parents and friends said it was an abduction, their intention being to inform the media, and that they were in fact making phone calls to this effect.
he remembers that the blinds of the window of the child’s room were open, but inclined (the lower part, at about a hand’s width). He does not remember if the window was open or what the state of the curtains was. He did not enter the room because he was told, he does not remember by whom, that the twins were sleeping.
gnr JR
He then went to the apartment, accompanied by his colleague, the father and friend as well as the translator. When he arrived at the apartment he saw the mother there, who opened the wooden door, now referred to as the main door. When he entered, apart from the mother, there were three individuals, one female and two male, whom he cannot identify.
Then, while his colleague remained in the hall, and the others were in the living room, the witness went through the entire apartment. He opened all the cupboards in the bedrooms, living room and kitchen and checked under the beds and inside the washing machine. He did not see the fridge.
During the search he did not find anything strange apart from the bedclothes on Madeleine’s bed, which were too tidy, it appeared that she had been picked up from or had left the bed with great care
gnr JR
After the search, he noticed a situation that seemed unusual to him, when at a determined moment, the girl’s parents kneeled down on the floor of their bedroom and placed their heads on the bed, crying. He did not notice any comments or expression from them, just crying. He says that at the main reception the father also knelt down, placing his head on the floor and crying. He did not hear the father say anything.
He never heard the parents ask to see a priest.
NP gnr
After the search of the interior, his colleague went to check the area around the apartments and the Tapas Bar, while the witness remained next the apartment, just outside it. At that moment a female individual, he does not know whether she was a member of the group of friends, who was in the neighbouring apartment, said that she saw an individual carrying a child, running, and that because of the pyjamas she was wearing it could have been Madeleine. It was in these circumstances that abduction began to be talked about.
This sighting did not seem to him to be very credible, because when he asked her about the physical characteristics of the individual, she said it was very dark, however she saw the pyjamas clearly.
When asked, he said that at that time he also saw a lot of local people, who were searching for the missing girl.
Whilst he was outside he talked to the witness mentioned previously and to some residents who had not seen anything. He exchanged some words with the mother, who was crying and only asked for more police officers
When questioned about the bedroom windows, he only remembers that blinds of the window of the girl’s bedroom were not totally closed. He does not remember about the existence of curtains or whether the window itself was closed.
He says that in the apartment there were two beds and two cots placed in Madeleine’s room, he does not remember their position. The children never woke up, he is sure, not knowing what position they were in, however he found this situation to be very strange, as a lot of noise was made.
As regards the parents, he says they were nervous and anxious, emotional. He adds that upon observing the scene it did not appear to him to be an abduction, but rather a normal disappearance where the child had left by her own means.
gnr JR
After the search he told his colleague to wait by the door while he went to the area around the apartments and the Tapas Restaurant. Whilst he was doing this he noticed the presence of many local people who were searching for the girl.
He also refers to a situation when he was searching outside, near the pool, that someone from the OC whom he cannot identify, passed him a mobile phone, as a British Consulate employee who spoke in Portuguese, wanted to talk to the authorities. Upon speaking to him, he told him that the investigation and subsequent actions were under the responsibility of the PJ.
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... | 11.45pm | Arrives
-Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
-José Maria Batista Roque
-Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa | gnrMP- After the search, he noticed a situation that seemed unusual to him, when at a determined moment, the girl’s parents kneeled down on the floor of their bedroom and placed their heads on the bed, crying. He did not notice any comments or expression from them, just crying. Upon leaving from the main reception the father also knelt down, placing his head on the floor and crying. He did not hear the father say anything.
He found the parents to be nervous and anxious, he did not see any tears from either of them although they produced noises identical to crying. He did not feel that this was an abduction, although this was the line indicated by the father.
gnr ADAntonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
He arrived alone, in his own car at about 23.50 and went to the apartment (to the entrance hall) by means of the front door (opposite the parking area) where he found the girl’s parents, a couple and Silvia. He was told that the twins were still sleeping in the bedroom. On the patio next to the front door, was an English woman who had spoken to the patrol, and had referred to having see someone pass in the street, in a dark area, who was carrying a child. As the information had already been gathered and given his limited knowledge of English, he did not manage to talk to the woman.
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... | 12.00mid | -Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
-José Maria Batista Roque
-Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa
Rui Sergio Lópes Silva (DAY OFF)
Santos (OFF DUTY)
Paolo Jorge Carvaihosa da Costa (OFF DUTY) | gnr AD-As regards the witness who alleged to have seen an individual carrying a child, whose (the witness) name he cannot remember, he says that upon learning of this situation, she stood next to two soldiers,(GNR) awaiting the arrival of police (PJ) officers. He did not speak to her as he does not speak English well.
he did not enter the apartment, as it had already been searched, but instead remained outside. Upon arriving and finding out about the situation with his Chief Roque, he carried out a search in a GNR car of all the places the child could be, specifically in commercial establishments, swimming pools and open spaces.
GNR NFPNelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa -One of the group contacted Sky News and the Embassy that night. He does not know if the parents made the call
Amy Tierney saying that she was approached at her desk at the Tapas restaurant at about 24.00 by Russell O' Brien who asked if she could help print out photos of Madeleine. She went to fetch another printer and printed out about 20 – 30 photos which she handed to Russell. The photos came from the McCanns camera.
gnrNP -As regards the entry terms which follow, this police was handed by the Guarda Nacional Republicada (GNR), four (4) 10 x 15 photographs on “Kodak Xtralife Paper” which were given to that police force by family of the missing minor MADELEINE MCCANN on the day which the facts were reported.
In these photographs is the image of a minor, in all ways identical to the child of British nationality referenced above, in two distinct poses (two by two).
As mentioned previously, these were in the possession of the child’s family, which from the beginning, even though there may be an explanation, appeared unusual, as on that night there was no possibility of proceeding with a revelation of the type of paper and the format used
gnr JR
Meanwhile the post commander arrived at the scene and he joined him in a vehicle and travelled around the whole resort.
Rui Sergio Lópes Silva
On 3rd May it was his day off, however he was drinking coffee at the Lagos GNR bar. He does not know exactly what time this was but he was when he was in the bar with other colleagues that he heard about the events.
Together with his colleague, Santos, he immediately offered to do all that was necessary to help.
After having helped his previously mentioned colleague prepare a message to distribute the news, he left for the OC in his own car. He arrived with his colleague Santos between 00.00 and 00.01 and presented himself to the GNR post commander, Duarte.
He was immediately sent to one of the search zones, initially accompanied by the post commander.
He never entered the McCann apartment the girl disappeared from.
gnrPaolo Jorge Carvaihosa da Costa
On 3rd May when he was at home, he was contacted by the GNR post commander who asked him to go to P da L.
He arrived at the OC at 00.05 on 4th May having contacted his colleague Nelson Costa who informed him about the situation.
After having been informed ha began to search the perimeter of the tourist complex. First he revised the perimeter alone and was later accompanied by Officer Pimentel. During his time on the scene he did not talk to anyone.
Neither did he enter the apartment from which Madeleine had disappeared. There many people at the scene but nobody particularly drew his attention.
When asked he said that he never saw Robert Murat in all the times he visited the scene.
He does remember however, that on a day he cannot recall, an individual who identified himself as Robert, saying that he was in P da L as a translator helping the PJ, phoned the Lagos post saying:
That some foreign women, who had already been interviewed by the police, had phoned him, telling him that there was a child crying in an apartment near to them.
sgt AD gnr
At the scene, he talked directly to the patrol and to Silvia who informed him about what had been said. His hope was that the child had left the apartment alone and got lost or that someone had seen her and stayed with her temporarily.
He gave orders to the post so that they would send more officers to the scene, amongst them he remembers Officers Pimentel, Costa, Silva, Santos, Casimiro and Neto. He ordered one officer from the patrol to stay on the scene – Officer Costa. He then contacted the interim commander in Portimao, Lieutenant Bengala. He then went with Roque to several establishments that were still open and also patrolled the zone, in his car and on foot.
Between 05.30 and 06.00 he went home, returning at 08.00.
PJ JB forensics (with VM)
At about 00.10 on the morning of the 4th, he had just finished filing a report about a fire, when he was informed that a child had disappeared in Praia da Luz. |
.............. NFP - Upon leaving the apartment he saw various photographs of the little girl printed on normal A4 paper which had been printed at the reception as well as other photos printed on 10 x 15 photographic poster paper which could not have printed at the reception. This seemed unusual to him and he later confirmed that they could not have been printed at the reception.| | | | | | | | | | | | 12.15am | -Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
-José Maria Batista Roque
-Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa
Rui Sergio Lópes Silva (DAY OFF)
Santos (OFF DUTY)
Paolo Jorge Carvaihosa da Costa (OFF DUTY)
Officers
- José Carlos Leal Pimental (OFF DUTY)
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- Casimiro
- Neto | José Carlos Leal Pimental
At about 00.00 on 4th May, he received a telephone call at his home from Officer Costa, informing him that a child had disappeared from P da L. he was also informed that the post commander had previously tried to contact him, which had been impossible as he had left his home, forgetting to take his mobile phone with him.
He immediately left for P da L in his own car and met his post commander, Sergeant Duarte who accompanied him to the site of the events in the resort in P da L. Officer Costa was on site. The witness arrived at 00.10 - 00.15.
According to orders from his superior he teamed up with Officer Costa to carry out external searches of the resort in case the girl had left the apartment and got lost nearby.
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Manuel Joaquim Pessoa de Lencastre Queiroz PJ Inspector
At about 00.10 a call was received from the GNR in Lagos to communicate the disappearance of a British girl who was on holiday with her parents at the OC in PdL.
At the beginning the possibility was considered that the child had left the apartment of her own will, and that she couldn’t have gone far from the scene and that she would be found wandering/lost (at this time there were already dozens of people looking for her).
| | | | | | | | | 12.30am | -Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
-José Maria Batista Roque
-Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa
- José Carlos Leal Pimental (OFF DUTY)
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Rui Sergio Lópes Silva (DAY OFF)
Santos (OFF DUTY)
Paolo Jorge Carvaihosa da Costa (OFF DUTY)
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... | 12.45am | -Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
- José Carlos Leal Pimental (OFF DUTY)
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-José Maria Batista Roque
-Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa
Rui Sergio Lópes Silva (DAY OFF)
Santos (OFF DUTY)
Paolo Jorge Carvaihosa da Costa (OFF DUTY)
PJ
-Vitor Manuel Martins
- João Franciso Páscoa Luis Trigo Barreirasfingerprints/photos
| PJ Vitor Manuel Martins
he arrived on the scene about 30 – 40 minutes after the phone call from the GNR, at about 00.40/00.50.
At the scene, there were already some elements from the GNR and some people walking around the OC grounds, searching for the child.
In the apartment where the family was staying, there were different persons, including the friends of the girl’s parents, who were immediately invited to leave the apartment, in order to preserve the scene.
Inside the room that was indicated as being that of the missing girl, there were two children, babies, who appeared to sleeping in two cots placed in the middle of the room.
A request was made to the OC services director for the family to be re-allocated and accordingly the babies were taken out of the room, so that the site could be searched.
The OC services manager introduced him to the missing girl’s parents, who looked quite tired and anguished, particularly the mother who appeared more upset and was therefore less receptive to conversation, which led the witness to converse only with the girl’s father.
João Franciso Páscoa Luis Trigo Barreiras fingerprints/photos
He was brought into service together with an Inspector from the station. It was the inspector’s duty to take notes of the services as well as all the information relating to them. The inspector who accompanied him on that date, Vitor Martins, informed him that the case in question was that of the disappearance of a small girl, of British nationality, who was staying at the OC with her parents.
The immediately left for the scene and arrived about 30 – 40 minutes later, at about 00.40/00.50.
When they arrived at the scene, which they immediately identified due to the presence of GNR officers, as well as quite a lot of people who were walking around the street searching for the child, they immediately went to the apartment in question, where they found several people, including some GNR officers, as well as the head of the Lagos GNR station.
He states that the people inside the apartment and close to it, entered and left the building and circulated in the whole apartment, completely freely, in other words, without there being any restriction or care in preserving the scene. .
He said that these people were the friends of the parents of the missing girl and a lady responsible for the resort called Silvia.
He was shown the room the child had disappeared from, having noticed that people also entered and left that room without any care in the sense of preserving traces. Inside this room there were two children, babies, sleeping in two cots placed in the middle of the room.
It was requested that the babies were moved, which was done accordingly, the witness having subsequently put his gloves on to begin the on-site inspection. |
........... | 1.00am | -Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
- José Carlos Leal Pimental (OFF DUTY)
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-José Maria Batista Roque
-Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa
Rui Sergio Lópes Silva (DAY OFF)
Santos (OFF DUTY)
Paolo Jorge Carvaihosa da Costa (OFF DUTY)
PJ
-Vitor Manuel Martins
- João Franciso Páscoa Luis Trigo Barreira | PJ VM - After the site had been isolated, he proceeded to make an inspection, together with the inspection and photographic report carried out by Deputy Specialist João Barreiras.
He states that he always maintained telephone contact with his superiors, in order to inform them of the inquiries carried out, until, at a time he cannot recall, after having completed the inquiries requested, he received orders from his superiors to return to the Portimão DIC, where the report was subsequently compiled.
That Gerald McCann, the missing girl’s father, informed him that the children of the couple’s friends were in another apartment and that they were being looked after by the mother of one of the friends, who was never present in the apartment whilst the inquiries were being carried out.
Finally, he states that the photograph of the missing girl was handed to him by Gerald McCann, the girl’s father, he does not remember seeing the photo in the possession of any other person.
PJ JB
After the arrival of the witness and his colleague Vitor Martins the scene was isolated and the inspection began, namely the collection of statements and inspection of the scene, the respective reports that were subsequently attached to the process documents.
The witness carried out finger print testing on the inside of the bedroom window, where the girl had been sleeping, leaving other examinations for the following day given that on that occasion these tests could not be carried out in the best technical conditions. For this reason, the apartments and the surrounding area were sealed off, watched over by the GNR officers who remained on site.
As far as he knows, after the first examination, other members from the finger print detection service and also officers from the LPC Crime Scene arrived at the scene.
The witness states that, at a given moment, the father of the missing girl led him to understand that he had already contacted the Sky News TV station and informed them of the situation.
As much the father as the girl’s mother looked quite worried with the situation and he can even confirm that the mother was very agitated and out of control, crying a lot and shouting in an uncontrolled manner, saying in English “They have taken her”.
gnr Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro
On 4th May 2007 he entered into the service of the events occurred at 01.00, having received orders from the commander to go to P da L. He arrived at the OC complex at 01.10 and went to join Commander Duarte, who updated him on the situation and sent him to Rua da Ramalhete.
On the scene where he had been sent by the Commander, he began to revise the perimeter of the resort, in a police car accompanied by his colleague, Officer Neto.
During his time at the scene he did not have any contact with anyone. Neither did he enter the apartment Madeleine disappeared from. |
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| 1.15am | -Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
- José Carlos Leal Pimental (OFF DUTY)
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- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro
- Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
-José Maria Batista Roque
-Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa
Rui Sergio Lópes Silva (DAY OFF)
Santos (OFF DUTY)
Paolo Jorge Carvaihosa da Costa (OFF DUTY)
-Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
PJ
-Vitor Manuel Martins
- João Franciso Páscoa Luis Trigo Barreira | gnrPNPaolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
-At about 01.05 – 01.20 they arrived at the site. They went to Sergeant Duarte, Commander of the Lagos GNR division, Afterwards they received a photograph of Madeleine McCann and received orders to search the whole of the Rua da Ramalhete and the access points to Quinta da Bela Vista
They did not enter the apartment zone nor the parking area opposite - He saw many people, mainly British, who were helping with the searching.
gnrArmando Augusto Morais & Dog
On 4th May he was called at about 01.15, he arrived at the OC at about 1.55, accompanied by the officer Laçao.
Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog
On 4th May he was called at about 01.15 when he was asleep at home, requesting him to appear at the Lagos GNR post as a small girl had disappeared. After arriving at the GNR post with his colleagues Morais and two dogs (Numi and Kit), German Shepherd dogs, which made up the search team, they immediately left for P da L. They arrived at about 02.30.
| | | | | | | | | 1.30am | -Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
- José Carlos Leal Pimental (OFF DUTY)
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- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro
- Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
-José Maria Batista Roque
-Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa
Rui Sergio Lópes Silva (DAY OFF)
Santos (OFF DUTY)
Paolo Jorge Carvaihosa da Costa (OFF DUTY)
PJ
-Vitor Manuel Martins
- João Franciso Páscoa Luis Trigo Barreira | gnr AD After the arrival of the police,(PJ) also accompanied by a member of the GNR, he continued searching, checking the beach and all the paths leading to it.
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- José Carlos Leal Pimental (OFF DUTY)
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- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro
- Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
-José Maria Batista Roque
-Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa
Rui Sergio Lópes Silva (DAY OFF)
Santos (OFF DUTY)
Paolo Jorge Carvaihosa da Costa (OFF DUTY)
PJ
-Vitor Manuel Martins
- João Franciso Páscoa Luis Trigo Barreira
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................ | 2.00am | -Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
- José Carlos Leal Pimental (OFF DUTY)
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- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro
- Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
-José Maria Batista Roque
-Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa
Rui Sergio Lópes Silva (DAY OFF)
Santos (OFF DUTY)
Paolo Jorge Carvaihosa da Costa (OFF DUTY)
PJ
-Vitor Manuel Martins
- João Franciso Páscoa Luis Trigo Barreira
PJ Manuel Joaquim Pessoa de Lencastre Queiroz - Calls Airport etc and Faro station and GNR Lagos
2-2.30
-ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog
| gnr PN -At about 02.15 – 02.30 and after having helped his colleagues from the PJ who had arrived at the site, they contacted the Commander again and were told to search the area surrounding the resort.
-They were in the area until about 09.00 searching in coordination with GNR team members, at which time they were relieved by other officers who came on duty.
gnr AD-As concerns the photos of the child, he says that he only saw what he calls the originals, poster type 10 x 15 cm on photographic paper. He did not see any other type of photos. Upon being shown a sample, he recognises it as being identical.
When asked he say he does not know the quantity of photos, but that there was more than one. He says that of these photos, at least five, he annexed one to the document he sent to the Tribunal and another four were handed to the officers carrying out searches, which were later returned and handed to the police, in due course.
He says he does not know who handed him the photos, different from each other, two by two.
He is sure that he is the person who received them.
He states that the photos came from inside the apartment, he still cannot say who had them. When he was inside the police car, gathering identification documents from the parents, he asked someone nearby for photos, he does not know if that person was Portuguese or British. This same person entered the apartment and came out with the photos.
He does not know whether it was Silvia Baptista who gave him the photos, as she was translating the conversations, neither whether it was someone from the family or friends.
He is sure that he received them in the early morning, at about 02.00, when the police arrived, after having carried out the first search.
He has the impression he saw the girl’s father, however he cannot confirm whether he was the one to give him the photos.
He presumes he was given the photos directly, or in other words that they were not passed to him via someone else.
When questioned he says that the photos could not have been printed/revealed at the Ocean Club installations (they do not have this kind of paper). He adds that the photos produced the following day, which he observed, were printed on A4 paper, which was available at the resort.
PJ Manuel Joaquim Pessoa de Lencastre Queiroz
At the beginning the possibility was considered that the child had left the apartment of her own will, and that she couldn’t have gone far from the scene and that she would be found wandering/lost (at this time there were already dozens of people looking for her).
However, a little more than an hour later, about 02.00/02.30, as the child had not been found, he decided to contact SEF at Faro airport with the aim of alerting them in case anyone would board accompanied by some child, whoever she was and those accompanying her should be duly identified, however the various calls made were not attended. In the face of this situation I contacted the Faro Station from the police and told them what was going on and asked them to alert the SEF.
I also decided to alert the GNR in Lagos so that they would send out a warning so that the car and foot patrols that were out on the ground would pay attention and identify cars with people out driving at that time who were accompanied by a child (children).
gnrArmando Augusto Morais & Dog Kit Portimao Territorial Group, working within the forensics service.
On 4th May he was called at about 01.15, he arrived at the OC at about 1.55, accompanied by the officer Laçao.
They presented themselves to Sergeant Duarte from the GNR Lagos post and were informed by him of the disappearance of a small girl from the resort. There were other GNR officers present at the scene, but he does not remember their names. There were also PJ officers present.
After having established exactly where the girl had disappeared from, he was given a piece of her clothing by one of his colleagues, whose name he does not remember.
From the door of the apartment, accompanied by his dog, he walked around the entire perimeter of the resort and revised the interior of several of the apartments.
As he did not obtain any results in the area close to the resort, he extended the perimeter of the search to a distance of 1 km.
He does not remember having seen plain clothed officers at the scene.
He remembers having seen the McCann couple once, near to the door of the apartment. He did not have any dialogue with them as he does not speak English.
He says that he did not have any dialogue with anyone, limiting himself to exercising his functions, accompanied by his dog, with whom he searched.
He says that he never entered the apartment which Madeleine disappeared from, he was only in the access corridor to the apartment.
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.............. | 2.15am | -Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
- José Carlos Leal Pimental (OFF DUTY)
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- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro
- Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
-José Maria Batista Roque
-Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa
Rui Sergio Lópes Silva (DAY OFF)
Santos (OFF DUTY)
Paolo Jorge Carvaihosa da Costa (OFF DUTY)
PJ
-Vitor Manuel Martins
- João Franciso Páscoa Luis Trigo Barreira
-ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & DogOFF DUTY ASLEEP | -Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog
On 4th May he was called at about 01.15 when he was asleep at home, requesting him to appear at the Lagos GNR post as a small girl had disappeared. After arriving at the GNR post with his colleagues Morais and two dogs (Numi and Kit), German Shepherd dogs, which made up the search team, they immediately left for P da L. They arrived at about 02.30.
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...... | 2.30am | -Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
- José Carlos Leal Pimental (OFF DUTY)
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- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro
- Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
-José Maria Batista Roque (RELIEVED)
-Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa
Rui Sergio Lópes Silva (DAY OFF)
Santos (OFF DUTY)
Paolo Jorge Carvaihosa da Costa (OFF DUTY)
PJ
-Vitor Manuel Martins
- João Franciso Páscoa Luis Trigo Barreira
-ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
Kit
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi | NP gnr He also refers to a situation at about 02 or 03.00, that the parents asked for a priest and his colleague had tried to contact one on his mobile, but did not manage to find one.
He also emphasises the situation that someone, who he cannot identify, having contacted Sky News and the Embassy that night. He does not know if were the parents.
He also notes that he saw various photographs on normal A4 paper of the girl, which had been printed at the reception, as well as other photos on photographic paper, poster type 10x15, that could not have been printed at the reception. This seemed unusual to him and he later confirmed that it was not possible for them to have been printed at the reception.
gnr JR
At about 02.30 after having been replaced by two colleagues, he left the scene as the police (PJ) had already arrived.
Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi Forensics
When they arrived at the scene, they entered the McCann’s apartment by the front door, and entered the living room, where there were some PJ officers as well as the MCCann couple. The just talked to some colleagues from the PJ and asked for a piece of clothing that Madeleine had worn or used recently. They were given a pink/orange blanket that the child had been covered with in her bed.
They began searching with the dogs from the main entrance to the apartment, having given the blanket to his dog Numi to smell and begin to search.
The route initially taken was from the front entrance door to the passageway between Blocks 4 and 5, along the corridor and then along the passage that leads past the entrance to the small reception to the resort’s swimming pool. After that the whole of the area surrounding the resort was searched.
With regard to the indications transmitted by his dog Numi, he says that at the beginning he was only “a little interested”, he let the dog "get on with it" .
They finished the searches at about 07.00 AM.
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(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
- Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
-ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
Kit
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi
PJ
-Vitor Manuel Martins
- João Franciso Páscoa Luis Trigo Barreira | | | | | | | | | | 3.00am |
-Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
- Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
-ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
Kit
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi
PJ
-Vitor Manuel Martins
- João Franciso Páscoa Luis Trigo Barreira
| | | | | | | | | | 3.15am | -Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
- Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
-ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
Kit
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi
PJ
-Vitor Manuel Martins
- João Franciso Páscoa Luis Trigo Barreira | | | | | | | | | | 3.30am | -Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
- Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
-ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
Kit
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi
PJ
-Vitor Manuel Martins
- João Franciso Páscoa Luis Trigo Barreira | | | | | | | | | | 3.45am |
- Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
-Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
- José Carlos Leal Pimental (OFF DUTY)
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- Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
-José Maria Batista Roque
-Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa
Rui Sergio Lópes Silva (DAY OFF)
Santos (OFF DUTY)
Paolo Jorge Carvaihosa da Costa (OFF DUTY)
PJ
-Vitor Manuel Martins
- João Franciso Páscoa Luis Trigo Barreira
-ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
Kit
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi | |
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| 4.00am |
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
-Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
- José Carlos Leal Pimental (OFF DUTY)
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- Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
-José Maria Batista Roque
-Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa
Rui Sergio Lópes Silva (DAY OFF)
Santos (OFF DUTY)
Paolo Jorge Carvaihosa da Costa (OFF DUTY)
PJ
-Vitor Manuel Martins LEFT
- João Franciso Páscoa Luis Trigo Barreira LEFT
-ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
Kit
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi | gnr Rui Sergio Lópes Silva
He only had direct contact with the couple and their friends at about 04.00 when Gerry McCann approached the GNR group of which he was a member to ask whether there was a church close by. He replied to him in English, giving the directions to a nearby church.
During the searches that he carried out on the scene until 05.00, he saw many people searching and he especially remembers two large groups of 10 – 15 people. One close to the beach and the other near to the McCann apartment block in Rua Agostinho da Silva.
Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi
He remembers that during a brief rest period at about 04.00, Madeleine’s mother asked whether there was any news and whether the roads had been blocked off.
There were some unknown people helping in the searches, especially when they arrived at the resort. Their number decreased as it got later. Between 04.00 and 07.00 basically the only people searching were the witness, his colleague and another GNR officer.
gnrJosé Carlos Leal Pimental
At about 04.00 AM they searched the streets, gardens, caravans, lorries, etc. As well as questioning lorry drivers in the parking area next to the “Luz Tur” building, they stopped a caravan with two English individuals, who said they lived in the Espiche area. The caravan was duly searched
PJ VM (with JB Forensics)He then states that upon leaving the apartment was locked, leaving the space preserved for the GNR elements that were stationed next to the apartment.
PJ JB
He remembers that he remained on the scene until about 04.00. There were many people in the street. He does not remember having seen Robert Murat there on that occasion.
When questioned, he says that it was a fresh night with some breeze. It was not a clear night, nor was it very dark. Referring to the light conditions around the apartment, he says they were very dark, and thinks that even on a bright night there would always be little light around the apartment because of the trees and lack of street lights.
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........... | 4.15am |
- Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
- José Carlos Leal Pimental (OFF DUTY) LEFT 4.20am
Rui Sergio Lópes Silva (DAY OFF)
Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
Kit
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi | gnrJosé Carlos Leal Pimental
He left for home at about 04.20.
As regards the McCann’s apartment that the girl disappeared from he was in the corridor next to the entrance when the forensic team arrived from Portimao. He never had any contact with the McCann family or friends |
| 4.30am | - Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
Rui Sergio Lópes Silva (DAY OFF)
Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
Kit
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi | | | | | | | | |
| 4.30am | - Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
Rui Sergio Lópes Silva (DAY OFF)
Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
Kit
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi | | | | | | | | |
| 4.45am | Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
- Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
Rui Sergio Lópes Silva (DAY OFF)
ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
Kit
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi | | | | | | | | | | 5.00am |
- Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
Rui Sergio Lópes Silva (DAY OFF)
Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
Kit
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi | gnr AD -At 05.00/06.00 he left the scene, having returned a little after 07.00. He did not carry out any searches in the company of the child’s family or friends.
gnr Rui Sergio Lópes Silva
During the searches that he carried out on the scene until 05.00, he saw many people searching and he especially remembers two large groups of 10 – 15 people. One close to the beach and the other near to the McCann apartment block in Rua Agostinho da Silva.
PJ Manuel Joaquim Pessoa de Lencastre Queiroz
During the early morning in question I received some telephone calls from people whom, with the exception of one, expressed themselves in Portuguese to ask whether an English girl had really disappeared in Lagos and about what was being done with relation to this and I informed them that this was true and that inquiries were being made in order to find her. One of these calls, from the person who did not express themselves in Portuguese but in English and which was received between 04.30 and 05.30, was made by someone who identified themselves as being from the Sky News TV chain and who requested the same information mentioned earlier.
| | | | | | | | | 5.15am | - Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição
ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
Kit
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi
(Rui Sergio Lópes Silva (DAY OFF)) | | | | | | | | | | 5.30am | - Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição LEFT BETWEEN 5 and 6
ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
Kit
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi | sgt grn AD Between 05.30 and 06.00 he went home, returning at 08.00.
| | | | | | | | | 5.45am | - Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
Kit
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi | | | | | | | | | | 6.00am |
- Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
Kit
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi | | | | | | | | | | 6.15am | - Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
Kit
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi | | | | | | | | | | 6.30am | - Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
Kit
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi | | | | | | | | | | 6.45am | - Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
Kit
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | | | | 7.00am | - Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição RETURNED AT 7.00am
ngnrArmando Augusto Morais & DOG
Kit LEFT
-Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi LEFT | gnrPN - He remembers that he saw the McCann couple at about 07.00 alone in the street next to the site where they were stationed.
He did not enter the apartment
gnrArmando Augusto Morais & Dog Kit
Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacao & Dog Numi
They finished the searches at about 07.00 AM
There were some unknown people helping in the searches, especially when they arrived at the resort. Their number decreased as it got later. Between 04.00 and 07.00 basically the only people searching were the witness, his colleague and another GNR officer.
During this night as well as the following night, when he repeated the searches from 23.00 to 08.00 he did not see anyone suspicious.
| | | | | | | | | 7.15am | - Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
-Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição | gnr AD gnr AD -At 05.00/06.00 he left the scene, having returned a little after 07.00. | | | | | | | | | 7.30am | - Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
-Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição | | | | | | | | | | 7.45am | - Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
-Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição | | | | | | | | | | 8.00am | - Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
-Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição | sgt grn AD Between 05.30 and 06.00 he went home, returning at 08.00.
He say he does not know Murat, and does not have the notion of having seen him before Friday 4th May at the mobile post installed at Rua Agostinho da Silva.
The first he knew about the existence of Murat was of an active individual who offered his help to translate some information/contacts with people who arrived at the mobile post, also offering to make a bridge with the OC.
He remembers that on a certain day, which he cannot specify, a journalist whom he cannot identify, informed him that amongst the Portuguese and foreign journalists at the scene, suspicion was “running” about Robert Murat. Together with Officer Sequeira he informed the PJ to transmit this information.
On the following day, in the morning, he remembers that Robert Murat arrived at the mobile post saying that he noticed the journalists’s suspicion about him and gave his mobile number and told him that he was going to discuss this with the PJ and that he was going to have “dinner”.
| | | | | | | | | 8.15am | - Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
-Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição | | | | | | | | | | 8.30am | - Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
-Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição | | | | | | | | | | 8.45am | - Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)
-Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição | | | | | | | | | | 9.00am | - Paolo Jorge Fernandes Neto(RELIEVED)
(- Joao Vasco da Silva Casimiro)(RELEIVED)
-Sgt Antonio Henrique da Duarte Conceição | gnr PN-They were in the area until about 09.00 searching in coordination with GNR team members, at which time they were relieved by other officers who came on duty. |
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