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We allow open debate in this group, sometimes it's heated debate because we allow people from all sides and some of them are very passionate. Yet oddly there are some people who like to come here for their own sport and try to disrupt the debate. It is a shame because people will always get the answers to their questions in this group. I find it very odd that people complain about the name of our group when the majority of the time we are debating topics related to the madele... See MoreNews FeedRECENT ACTIVITY Over the decades there have been many banned books. From Hitler's controversial 'Mien Kampf', Salman Rushdie's 'Satantic Verses' to school syllabus favourites such as 'To Kill a Mockingbird'. These books go on to be very popular because they were banned. Will Amaral's 'A Verdade da Mentira' go the same way? Did anyone see this? I rarely use public transport so I missed it Just a few pages of comments from hideho appalling these brainwashed morons are still believing it went in favour of amaral and that the mccanns are lying. They have so little facts about the case it's unreal So finally the book of fiction, lies and misinformation that had been proven to cause harm and that has been proven to potentially harm the McCann children (although not harmed them YET) has FINALLY been banned. Hurrah !!!! It only took 6 years! So now everyone (except the author obviously) is happy! Wrong! Not only are some anti-Madeleine campaigners distraught, angry, upset and reacting irrationally or hysterically BUT they have preempted Gonzo's next move, who so far has ... Continue Reading ONE BATTLE 'LOST' BUT THE WAR IS NOT OVER wink emoticon COPY OF PINNED POST for DISCUSSION -The verdict McCanns v Amaral Translation & INFO as it becomes availa... See MoreNOW AVAILABLEa) Proibir os réus Gonçalo Amaral e Guerra e Paz, Editores, S.A da... Goncalo Amaral, who ran the initial investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, claimed in a book that the toddler had died in an accident in...
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Okay so now the Judge will rule in favour of the McCann's what will the damages settlement be? The person who is closest will get a £50 donation to a charity of their choosing NOTE - excludes Amaral's begging bowl fund and any charities involving domestic cats Goncalo Amaral, 56, the ex-police officer who bungled the Madeleine McCann investigation made a fortune by spinning a web of lies about the case, a Lisbon...
 Another succinct critique: The "truth" or not of the various "facts" appears to be neither here nor there (no doubt a major contrast to a UK trial of this nature). The bottom line, from what I can gather, is that: - The judge doesn't appear particularly impressed with a former PJ officer interpreting selected "facts" from an early period of the investigation to accuse them of crimes. - His interpretation does not correspond to the conclusions of the AG's assessment of the totality of the case. - She was not impressed with the timing of the publication of the book, just days after the AG had released the conclusions of the entire investigation. - He ignores their right to a presumption of innocence. - He used the kudos of his former position to bolster the credibility of his claims... and to make a substantial income out of it. - The documentary is even worse. - She doesn't appear to have been very impressed either with the insinuations that the Portuguese authorities who did not share his views were somehow bowing to the whims of foreign powers. - Some of the legal arguments are those presented in the injunction: the relative rights, etc. - Although a private citizen at the time of publication, as a former PJ officer, there are still rights and duties associated with that former position. And that includes discretion so as not to prejudice a case and the respect for the concept of the presumption of innocence. - She has substantiated the arguments not just from Portuguese legislation, but also from European legislation. All in all... "We are not impressed" would seem to cover it. So Lee Ryan is posting his girlfriends post as follows. Isabel didn't leak anything so what is she/he on about? is he still a member here? Lee Ryan explain if you will please. Goncalo Amaral and his lawyer have now officially been informed of the verdict. In a court ruling that has left many in states of total disbelief, former PJ detective Gonçalo Amaral has been ordered to pay €500,000 in damages to the parents of...
This from STM and so well put: What broke the "stalemate" is the fact that it was accepted that on the one hand the McCanns suffered as a result of his accusations and that the McCanns have a right to the presumption of innocence. On the other hand, magistrates and police officers have a number of principles and rules to uphold. As a former PJ coordinator, he still had a duty to uphold them. Instead, he used his former position to bolster his credibility and income-generating potential as he merrily breached those principles / rules big time, insisting on his own interpretation based on only selected parts of the files, giving the impression that he was conveying the official conclusions of the entire investigation. Oh, and managed to cast aspersions on current magistrates and PJ officers while he was at it. I've noticed that the popular theme on other groups is all about the dogs. Imo the dogs are the main thing that they talk about when there asked for evidence and the popular mantra DOGS DON'T LIE. I agree that dogs don't lie but they can be mistaken x I am writing this as an appeal for the whereabouts of Lizzy Taylor who has not been seen in over 16 hours and her fans are getting increasingly worried about her. If you have any information please ring Crimestoppers who are interested in her disappearance from the internet and are concerned it may be to do with the McCann case. Some folk are getting desperate as the balloon pic has resurfaced and being touted as proof of how happy McCanns were........here is the video for truth and clarity purposes. Your thoughts please London Metro reporting it too and look at their choice of words...lol but so true : A lot of the other groups are quite angry at the verdict. They are happy enough to like the so called dog evidence. They are happy enough to like his book ect ect. But a court ruling made by a judge who has heard the evidence are wrong. They won't be happy until the parents are in prison. I'm sorry but by the judges verdict it's pretty clear there not guilty as his book was apparently based on evidence and the judge must think the evidence is wrong x LAIDBAREBLOG.BLOGSPOT.COM
There will be a party later for the opening of the envelope ceremony, all are welcome, If Mr Amaral who was in charge of the missing Madeliene Mccann case was to come on here for the day what questions would you ask him? Just wondering if Lizzy will make a show for tomorrow's thrilling edition of the McCann and friends day in Luz? I see Bronte Textusa has been made to use her real name on facebook. Every anti forum is in complete meltdown tonight...only to be expected. And I can see twitter is as well and Sonia Poultry is disbelieving of this result. However, Sonj said she would be releasing this earth shattering video of hers after the verdict. Do we think she will go ahead with it now? Wouldn't she look a fool? The hit song from From Walt Disney's "Song of the South" released in 1946 was "Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah", which won the 1947 Academy Award for Best Song and is freq... What do you think to Jane Tanners interview with the Sun? Jane Tanner's interview with The Sun on 20 November 2007 In an exclusive interview with The Sun – her first with any newspaper – Jane forcefully hit back at critics who have suggested she is lying. Amid sobs, she said: "I DID see a man that night carrying away Madeleine...she WAS abducted." ... Continue ReadingGoncalo Amaral has to pay £75,000 to McCanns - wont make much difference to criminal investigations to be honest. http://news.sky.com/…/ex-detective-to-pay-mccanns-75000-for… Sky News - First for Breaking News, video, headlines, analysis and top stories...
For any still doubting that SkyNews, the BBC and ITV were telling the truth, here it is from Portugal: http://www.theportugalnews.com/…/lisbon-court-orders-…/34612 A Lisbon Civil Court on Tuesday issued a ruling in which former PJ police detective Gonçalo Amaral is to pay the parents of missing British toddler Madeleine...
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Any ideas what Pat Brown could possibly mean by this (apart from sour grapes): https://www.facebook.com/pat.brown.52012/posts/10153339044594319 Loving the new banner. It tends to rub salt into some smarting wounds tonight though unsure emoticon Court in Portugal orders libel payout by ex-police chief to parents of missing girl...
It is reported that Kate and Gerry McCann will use damages awarded in their libel case to help continue the search for their missing daughter Madeleine. The pair won a total of €500,000 (£358,000) after suing... It looks like shock-jock talk radio presenter Jon Gaunt is now, looking to revive his interest in the McCann case and is engaging with people on#McCann tag. Found this what do you think? I have had a look at one of the videos which Hideho has created which dealt with this issue. I have done a timed set of comments on the video. If anyone (especially Hideho) would like to offer comments about what I perceive to be the deception within the video I would be very willing to reply. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP30PRieuU4... Continue ReadingWhy did Kate DENY, under oath at the Leveson Inquiry, that there were body fluids found in their car... From the mouthpiece himself, Tony Bennett on Ms Kleeman. Who knows, some good could actually come out of her documentary regarding these "doubters" of the McCanns. We can but hope so: http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t11215-jenny-kleeman-guard… Jenny Kleeman/Guardian Documentary Film on Madeleine McCann out soon The film being made for the Guardian by Jenny Kleeman on Madeleine McCann - first... JILLHAVERN.FORUMOTION.NET
Jenny Kleeman - for the record, I did not bombard or beg her with 'messages' requesting her to interview me. 1) Since January 2014, I've TWEETED Jenny eight times relating to McCann case (all off-the-cuff tweets, not messages or emails) .. the tweets are available here: http://greptweet.com/u/dasteelman/#jennykleeman 2) Jenny Tweeted me, on April 1st this year asking me to follow her she could DM me ...See MoreThe Official Find Madeleine page have helped enormously in the fund raising for Ruby, a little girl who has neuroblastoma and yet is the bravest, most courageous little girl, still able to smile and enjoy parts of her life. The treatment Ruby and others suffering this childhood cancer need is not available in the UK at present, which I and others find quite unbelievable considering the money wasted in many areas. I bring you Ruby's story again in the hope you can all support ... See MoreRaise money, support your friends, give to a cause. Show you care. People believe we don't respect other peoples opinions, and they are so far wrong that they have missed the Mark. We respect other peoples opinions, and views, as long as they are respectful when debating them.. All are welcome here, Anti, Pro, fence and David Steel, just remember leave the hatred at the door, be respetful, Don't be nasty, towards other or people involved in the case, use facts, and link when required and we all will get on just fine.. I found this on an anti Mccann facebook group and wondered what members on here thought and if they could do my poll please? Can I do a poll of those who believe Madeleine died and that the abduction didn't happen. Do you think she died Before 8.30pm on the 3rd? (88) thought she did ........Sometime on the 2nd (45) thought she did .........and Before the 2nd (23) thought she did that 23 includes Lizzy Hideho Taylor
How wonderful it is to learn that there are journalists following this dreadful hate campaign against the McCanns. I had often hoped that there were but to be told this is a fact...it is a relief. The anti-McCann’s want people to believe that a missing child is dead… now why would any person want a missing child to be classed as dead, without solid evidence to prove otherwise? Hope this ok to post if not delete it, What are your views? Is the internet more a force for good or evil? The internet has the potential to do much good. Amongst its many positive features it allows people to research and connect in ways that they have never been able to before. However, it is also allowing people to ruin lives by making unsubstantiated rumours and allegations under the cloak of anonymity. It is ungovernable wild west. As Churchill said 'a lie can get half w... See MoreWhat do members think to this i found? Does the sequence of events support abduction or manslaughter? Madeleine was alive and well when she left the crèche on the day she disappeared. If something untoward had happened to Madeleine in that apartment and her parents had decided to conceal her remains for whatever reason and concoct a story about an abduction, I find it highly improbable that they would have alerted anyone that night. It just didn't give them enough time to g... See MoreAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! Look what I have just seen on Twitter. I despair. I really do. See the picture below for the location of the part where the DNA was found. this part of the car is very easily accessible and would need to be touched whenever the back seats of the car were put up and down, which they were frequently. The 'carpet' from the boot was just a mat which similarly had to come out whenever the back seats were used. ...See MoreI would be pleased if members could do my poll on whether they thought the tapas 7 helped cover up for the Mccann's over Maddeleine disappearance Oh Dear, Oh Dear..This is the sort of crap the Mcs are up against. Órfhlaith Ní Choírbín Madeleine looks very tall, with quite long legs, in this video, for a child who was not yet four years old...She looks about 5-6 years old. Is it true GM is not her biological father and that the "donor" was from Holland where she was born? It would explain why they lived there and why her birth was not registered in the UK for a few months, a lot longer than the law allows (I think you have 90 days to register a birth, they took around 8 months I think - is this because she was born in Holland?) Also, there are two birth certs with different DOB's on them... the director of the hospital admitted the drs got it wrong. Join the campaign and make a difference. Not to sure about the 1st half of her blog regarding the feminist stuff - I do agree with her second half. The chav, 'anti' brigade for whatever reason persecuted Linda for The Sun interview because she did not represent 'them' ... who do these anonymous, cowardly chavs think they are? ... Like I always say 'SayNoToGangLife' ... be yourself http://cristobell.blogspot.co.uk/ CRISTOBELL.BLOGSPOT.COM|BY CRISTOBELL What are your views about Amaral (the cop in charge of missing Madeleine) making a lot of money writing his book about poor Madeleine going missing? also he was making money giving interviews too. Well, now that Lizzy has valiantly defeated the straw man, maybe we can get back to the proposition in point.... HiDeHo is still claiming the DNA was found in that little HiDeHoLe. IT WAS NOT ...See MoreThis is from one of Frances G's members! "Why did the PJ only request rogatory interviews with the tapas7 and not the McCanns? Or did they?" Oh dear! I'd sign that. On condition the US kept the pair of chancers. I love this photo. Such a happy little family once upon a time! There are many saying the review is a waste of taxpayer's money. I would like to ask those who criticise the review and the McCanns, the following If this was your child missing would you still think it a waste of taxpayers money? If the parents were involved, as some people say, why would they campaign tirelessly for a review to be conducted? Surely the last thing they would want is a review of the evidence, if they were guilty of committing a crime. The music is so poignant in this video clip. Ok, so i know that there may seem like there is so many people that care - and there is. But there is always too many people who couldn't care less! MADELEIN... If I only had a pound for every time some moronic anti-Madeleine told me to ‘Read the files’ I could retire early. They spout it continually, not just to true Madeleine supporters such as myself, b... NIGELNESSLING.WORDPRESS.COM After 24h00 search on the net, this is all what I could found inconnection what I told you of the Villa where Madeleine may have been hold. If someone can find a better link I will be glad. Almost 8years ago there was more links about this. http://www.express.co.uk/…/Madeleine-The-missed-clues-at-1m… Considering that this is one of the most recognised cases of a missing child in the world, has had so much publicity in the media, public forums, blogs, chat shows.. For the people who believe in the parents being involved, I have a couple of question. Why, after all this time, has no one come forward to state, how bad as parent's the McCanns were/are. Why with all this world knowledge has/did no one come forward to say that they were bad people. Why has no one come forward to state that they have slipped up. Why has no one come forward and stated that they believe that they were/are involved for various reason. I believe because any one who knows the McCanns, know that they were a loving family, who have gone through the most horrendous ordeal, and anyone that knows them, doesn't for one moment doubt them.
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