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SCOTLAND YARD: Do you believe its a WHITEWASH or do you believe , like myself, that they are being VERY CLEVER and playing the game? 

There is NO WAY that the UK public could accept the truth right now...

Too many people, celebrities and politician's, credibity would suffer a HUGE loss. They could NOT admit to being wrong about the case.

No-one like to be told they are wrong...

My belief is that Scotland Yard are gradually exposing the details so that slowly but surely the public can wake up to the details and start to question and form their own opinions....THEN they will not have to admit to being wrong and...conned.

I have spoken to 3 different detectives, from Operation Grange, on several occasions and NO, they did not give me details, but I learned a lot by 'hearing' what they were saying.

eg. Anything said in public can be looked at in many ways...not just the obvious.....as the REAL investigation is not discussed, it's kept 'under the radar'. (this was back when Andy Redwood was claiming Madeleine may be alive...or dead.)

EVERY piece of information (once credibility has been assessed) is entered into the computer (HOLMES?) and I was assured that NOTHING is left out.

I addressed the issue of the claims of Whitewash...and though I cannot remember my exact question at one point he said 'That is why its a murder squad'

There are 'computer' detectives that also monitor blogs and forums.

This was when the review was first opened so I do not know about during the Investigation...but I DID get a very good sense of interest and follow up emails asking for further info.

Some may belive its a whitewash...and...they may be correct...we don't know...but I most certainly believe it is not....and for that I am thankful as otherwise, if I DID feel it was a whitewash, I would have to ask myself WHY AM I HERE?

2nd attempt - PREVIOUS POST DISAPPEARED!SCOTLAND YARD: Do you believe its a WHITEWASH or do you believe , like myself, that they are being VERY CLEVER and playing the game? ;) There is NO WAY that the UK public could accept the truth right now... Too many people, celebrities and politician's, credibity would suffer a HUGE loss.  They could NOT admit to being wrong about the case. No-one like to be told they are wrong... My belief is that Scotland Yard are gradually exposing the details so that slowly but surely the public can wake up to the details and start to question and form their own opinions....THEN they will not have to admit to being wrong and...conned. I have spoken to 3 different detectives, from Operation Grange, on several occasions  and NO, they did not give me details, but I learned a lot by 'hearing' what they were saying. eg. Anything said in public can be looked at in many ways...not just the obvious.....as the REAL investigation is not discussed, it's kept 'under the radar'. (this was back when Andy Redwood was claiming Madeleine may be alive...or dead.) EVERY piece of information (once credibility has been assessed) is entered into the computer (HOLMES?) and I was assured that NOTHING is left out. I addressed the issue of the claims of Whitewash...and though I cannot remember my exact question at one point he said 'That is why its a murder squad' There are 'computer' detectives that also monitor blogs and forums. This was when the review was first opened so I do not know about during the Investigation...but I DID get a very good sense of interest and follow up emails asking for further info. Some may belive its a whitewash...and...they may be correct...we don't know...but I most certainly believe it is not....and for that I am thankful as otherwise, if I DID feel it was a whitewash, I would have to ask myself WHY AM I HERE?
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  • Lizzy Hideho Taylor How odd...Lots of comments and suddenly the post disappeared!!
    8 hrs · Like · 1
  • Anne Marie Gray Yes this is the one I commented on then it disappeared.
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  • Lizzy Hideho Taylor My pinned post disappeared for no reason yesterday also 
    8 hrs · Like
  • Anne Marie Gray I wonder who is censoring...fb or not?
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  • Nette Smith Admins are the only ones able to delete postst? And you can delete your own post, naturally  Something strange going on??
    8 hrs · Like · 2
  • Gill Ashton You know I'm with you on this one, Lizzy!
    8 hrs · Like · 1
  • Sue Gregory I was also reading this a few minutes ago and 'Whoosh' it disappeared. Thought was seeing things
    8 hrs · Like · 1
  • Lizzy Hideho Taylor There is no question about admin issues....I most certainly did not delete..lol and have sent a request to Facebook...
    8 hrs · Like · 1
  • Lizzy Hideho Taylor Deleting posts/threads is a two step process...its not easy to do it accidentally/
    8 hrs · Like · 2
  • Sue Gregory Just shared this on my timeline and a friends. Wonder if it will stay there
    8 hrs · Edited · Like · 2
  • Colin Milne Very interesting
    8 hrs · Like
  • Roy Bhoy I'm lost why anyone thinks our plod are the best? A bunch of self serving masons, every enquiry into the police exposes them for what they are, the PJ should chase deadwood and Scotland Yard out there country, the PJ solved the case years ago stopped in there tracks by British government shame on them all.
    8 hrs · Like · 10
  • Janet Polkinghorne Just shared this on my wall "i'm ready when you are scotland yard" brill post!!x
    8 hrs · Like · 2
  • Michelle Lynch Anyway, back to the point of the post , some days I think whitewash and others 'the truth will come out'. I'm hoping for the latter for Madeleine's sake xx
    8 hrs · Like · 5
  • Lizzy Hideho Taylor Why would they claim the possibility of Madeleine not leaving the apartment alive? A paedophile would kill her and leave her? 

    It leaves the alternative....

    A whitewash would not gain anything from that comment...

    What are reasons you feel there is a whitewash? (Apart from previous experiences)
    8 hrs · Like · 1
  • Nette Smith Oh I know that our admins etc wouldn't , Lizzie, thats why i said it, as you said cant be done accidently, unless you are me 
    8 hrs · Like
  • Anne Marie Gray I really hope you are right Lizzy but I have no faith in our system, it's corrupt to the core. Some of the "suicides" we're asked to believe for instance are totally unbelievable.
    8 hrs · Like · 9
  • Beryl Spilsbury Oh l think we could accept the truth! The UK government aren't too bothered about the public's feelings and are in fact quite contemptuous so the fact that some may feel conned won't bother them one bit. We're used to it with the governments we've had so they won't be worried about people's feelings over the McCanns!
    8 hrs · Like · 5
  • Lizzy Hideho Taylor in this case I am guided by the info to help me form an opinion...i don't look to the info and try and decide if it means one thing or another...

    I see a COUNTRY that is oblivious to the files...and how many people do you know that will openly admit to being 'conned?

    I disagree that it is the right time to tell the UK....there would be outrage and too many repercussions.

    We ALL are aware of how people react if we mention about the case...Can you imagine that times 63 million?
    8 hrs · Like · 8
  • Ingrid Chadwick Following
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  • Michelle Hatch I really hope your right lizzy and I did think this way too also the way the mc s have behaved ever seen crime watch I think they realise public opinion is easily changed and they have a lot to hide .
    7 hrs · Like · 1
  • Jan Butcher I think the recent Crimewatch programme was a definite turning point for many (possibly thousands) who finally realised all is not as it seems  xx
    7 hrs · Like · 3
  • Roy Bhoy I've listened for years to the British police are playing a blinder softly softly etc etc, our police are a joke I know no one who has any faith in our cops.
    7 hrs · Like · 1
  • Julie Harris said it before,say it again....the police are not daft
    7 hrs · Like · 2
  • Lizzy Hideho Taylor I don't believe we have to wait for a result from Scotland Yard OR the PJ...I have always believed that once the UK are aware of what is contained in the files that it will all be 'over.

    The McCann's greatest fear is that the UK find out the truth...hence they do not allow discussions on the investigation or recommend people read the files.... 

    They give EXCUSES that it will interfere with the investigation (even when no investigation was in progress?)

    McCanns paid £100,000 to TRANSLATE Files - WHY haven't they released them? (3.08) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXq_6l7G1rE
    VOLUNTEERS in blogs and forums have translated the files so EVERYONE can read th...See More
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  • Roy Bhoy The police aren't daft that's true sadly they are corrupt especially at the top.
    7 hrs · Like · 3
  • Ian George whitewash
    7 hrs · Like · 1
  • Gemma Hawkins I said on the other - didn't gordon brown say the public need to be prepared before we hear the truth
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  • Beryl Spilsbury There would be outrage but sadly this country seems to have lost it's backbone. The public have been outraged over other serious issues, mass immigration, illegal wars etc. but not really any repercussions and l can't see any over the McCanns
    6 hrs · Like · 2
  • Beryl Spilsbury So come on SY. Forget the softly, softly approach. We can take it!
    6 hrs · Like · 3
  • Ian George Correct Beryl, no outrage about anything these days, the media tell people what they think and the sheep follow...
    6 hrs · Like · 3
  • Beryl Spilsbury Exactly lan. They can tell us what they like about the Mc's and we'll lie down and take it as we do with everything else!
    6 hrs · Like · 1
  • Donna Absolom Maybe its not what the McCanns did to maddie the police are covering up but the polices own bulls up of the investigation, wouldn't be the first time police covering up their own incopidance!
    6 hrs · Like · 2
  • Ian George For example, we are being told now that house prices are booming and this needs to be controlled to stop the economy from failing. They say they have to withdraw help to buy because it is causing the boom! It is all bollocks. Twisting and turning, blaming anything and everything for their own action or inaction. If things go well, its Governments doing, if it goes wrong, its not their fault.
    6 hrs · Like · 3
  • Lorraine McNaught Holden With tanner man in place by the McCann's own timelines an abductor had 1min 40secs by removing tanner man Redwood facilitated a time stamp for an abduction,I'm sorry but I was fuming after crime watch he extended the timeline I'm still in the cover up camp atm
    5 hrs · Like · 4
  • Poppy Mc Does anyone believe the truth will eventually out??
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  • Poppy Mc I don't think I have ever wanted for anything so bad!!
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  • Christine King I don't think for one minute it is a whitewash. If is was a patsy would have been found and the McCann's told to shut up. It would have been sorted ages ago. No way would SY have revealed the lookalike GM pic from the Smith sighting. I don't think SY are preparing the British public though I think they are just making sure the evidence is water tight. Tick tock ...
    5 hrs · Edited · Like · 8
  • Ian George I wish Christine. Their remit is to find an abductor. I have no doubt at all.
    5 hrs · Like · 4
  • Lorraine McNaught Holden I don't think McCann's will do time tbh
    5 hrs · Like · 3
  • Lizzy Hideho Taylor What do you all base the idea of it being a whitewash on?

    I see a very careful effort to eliminate all the details of what the McCanns would claim hasn't been looked at.....If they were important details pertaining to the investigation (which they are keeping quiet about) we would not be hearing anything.

    We are hearing what Scotland Yard WANT us to hear...or should I say what Kate and Gerry want to hear.. .
    4 hrs · Like · 5
  • Anne Marie Gray I think some high level names are being protected
    3 hrs · Like · 4
  • Lorraine McNaught Holden I just don't see what's changed since 2007 protection wise unless the leverage has been eliminated
    3 hrs · Like
  • Gill Ashton A lot has changed. Savile. Clifford. Pinky seems to have disappeared. And Social Networking is much more media-savvy. Even Cartier-Rocks can't sue millions of people...
    3 hrs · Like · 3
  • Beryl Spilsbury l really want to believe that SY are eliminating all other scenario's. Sadly in this country there has been so much corruption and cover ups it's difficult to trust them. l am so relieved that the Portugese refused a joint investigation, which is what Kate and Gerry want. l feared SY would try to dictate the direction of the investigation. l really hope l'm wrong. My faith lies with the PJ.
    3 hrs · Like · 6
  • Gill Ashton I think the fact that they wanted a joint investigation was what worried me the most
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  • Lizzy Hideho Taylor My understanding is that Kate and Gerry did not want an investigation or for it to be reopened...they just wanted a review.
    3 hrs · Like · 3
  • Lizzy Hideho Taylor Did Rebekah Brooks THREATEN David Cameron? - McCann Scotland Yard Review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZiCERG_-xc
    Join the Discussions: HiDeHo CONTROVERSY of Madeleine McCann Facebook Group http...See More
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  • Janet Polkinghorne Tough titties on them! For once they got more than they bargained for I really hope that the truth will come out finally!!
    3 hrs · Like · 5
  • Stella Mcnaught IMO some kind of threat was made!
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  • Grainne Mccumiskey Friends in high places...............
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  • Gill Ashton There was talk at one time (but I don't know if it was weird conspiracy theory) that Gerry's dream about the tunnel was a coded warning to the people who knew he had info about Diana. Tho I have NO idea how he could have had! So I suspect it is cr*p...
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  • Lorraine McNaught Holden More bollocks tbh Gill Ashton I read that too lol
    2 hrs · Like · 1
  • Gill Ashton You know the more I think about it, the less I think it is about protecting the famous, and the more about not rocking the paedo boat. And as that has been well and truly rocked now, there is no reason to protect them. Personally I can't shake the feeling that Redwood is a good man who knows exactly what he is doing (Crimewatch swung it for thousands of people without appearing to be anti) - of course I may be wrong. But I hope not.
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  • Jackie McClements How can we save/duplicate/preserve this thread in case of whooshing?
    1 hr · Like · 1
  • Beryl Spilsbury l am sure you are right Lizzie and they wanted a review and not an investigation. When it became an investigation by both countries they wanted SY to take the lead role, imo because they know the PJ aren't buying the 'abduction' story
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  • Cathy Robinson Gerry...tunnel....info on diana?? Who the beeeep does he think he is?? Arrogant twisted nosed slimey creep!!!! AAARRGHHHH
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  • Lesley Elliott Since when has Gm been that important? he's a doctor not leader of a country or in fact anyone of importance to joe bloggs down the road. So why would the uk need to be prepared? I'm sure justice for a little girl would be more important to people.much more in fact.
    35 mins · Like · 2
  • Cherry Berry GM as a person is not that important in the grand scheme of things, it is more what he may be involved in, and what he may know about others imo
  • Lorraine McNaught Holden I'm not so sure that Gerry McCann is just Joe blogs many connections to high profile people have been unearthed plus many believe he's involved in the comare project
    33 mins · Like · 1
  • Cherry Berry He was involved in Comare alongside Andrew Brown Gordon's brother
    26 mins · Like · 1
  • Poppy Mc What's comare guys?
  • Cherry Berry COMARE is an independent expert advisory committee with members chosen for their medical and scientific expertise and recruited from Universities, Research and Medical Institutes. Members have never been drawn from the Nuclear or Electrical Power Supply Industries.

    The Committee offers independent advice to all Government Departments and Devolved Authorities, not just the Health Departments, and is responsible for assessing and advising them on the health effects of natural and man-made radiation. It is also asked to assess the adequacy of the available data and advise on the need for further research
    19 mins · Like · 1
  • Cherry Berry http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3861.0
    miscarriageofjustice.co
    Gerry McCann and his involvement with Government Quango COMARE in 2007.
  • Lesley Elliott I didn't say Gm was just A joe bloggs I said he wouldn't be important TO joe bloggs.
  • Lorraine McNaught Holden I believe they've lied about the effects of radiation on young children living near power stations of which Gerry was part of imo
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