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Lying Lips by body language experts. Take a look at what experts think of Kate McCann's first public appearances?

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  • Caro Mitchell Something bad had happened this is one of the few photos showing genuine emotion
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  • Audrey Nayler Both of them are pathological liars.
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  • Sarah Eve Whyte Where is she ?
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  • Martina McCosker And so the farce begins !
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  • Heather Hopper 00:01 on 19/07/2015. Bless you all.
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  • Isabel Oliveira Thank you heather x
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  • Maureen Kirkwood Thank you Heather for the updates x
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  • Heather Hopper 11:11 on 19/07/2015
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but, as gm was leaving he bumped into jez Wilkins and was unable to sort out the shutters as planned.
for some reason he was unable to tell kate of the lack of jemmied shutters.
then when km went to do her check, fully expecting the shutters to have already been sorted, she may not have even gone into the kids room but waited a minute or so then ran over to the tapas bar and raised the alarm as planned.
maybe she didn't even know later on that the shutters hadn't been done hence her phoning home and telling everyone the 'jemmied' story
then once she found out that they hadn't been done had to change their story to the 'open patio door' bs
I cant imagine why km would come out with the 'jemmied shutters' story unless it was already preplanned. 
can anyone confirm that gm's meeting with jez Wilkins happened inbetween gm's and km's 'checks' ??
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  • Belinda McCarthy Amy states she saw the shutter & window!!! Who was she protecting?
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  • Belinda McCarthy Amy states she saw the shutter & window!!! Who was she protecting?
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  • Belinda McCarthy Sorry...meant to write...Amy states she saw the shutter & window OPEN !!!Who was she trying to protect???.
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  • Belinda McCarthy Sorry...meant to write...Amy states she saw the shutter & window OPEN !!!Who was she trying to protect???.
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  • Belinda McCarthy Amy also states (read her police statements in case files) that she helped to print Madeleines photos in the office that same evening. What a helpful Warner employee...& Mr. Amaral later states that it is Amy who is the key to solving the mystery...join the dots...
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  • Belinda McCarthy Scotland Yard should re-investigate Amy, Catriona & Charlotte...did they write their police statements under duress from Warners & McCanns to give only the McCann version of events???
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  • Kay Locke Minute by minute timeline for that night. 

    http://forum2.aimoo.com/.../Minute-By-Minute-Simulated...
    TAPAS  ENTRANCETO TAPAS ROADOUTSIDE 5A...
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  • Shirley Gay My thoughts exactly. I have said the same about GM being waylaid by Jez before the job could be done
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  • Paul Catley the 'jemmied' shutters is such a definitive thing to claim to hav seen, and imo she would have only said it if she thought they had already been donr prior to her 'check'
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  • Belinda McCarthy Gerry had practiced jemming the shutters in his bedroom earlier in the week & maintainence technicians had to come & repair them...he managed to break them .At the same time, maintenance people had to show Kate how to use the washing machine... was Kate washing "incriminating" clothes urgently earlier in the week???
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  • Paul Catley wow, never knew that Belinda smile emoticon
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  • Kay Locke Belinda please try not to state speculation as if it was fact. You don't know that was the case re GM.

    The issue with shutters was the parents bedroom on the patio doors facing the pool and it was the pull handle.
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  • Belinda McCarthy Kay, why are you being so defensive in this matter???... I was only quoting Kates own words.."Gerry managed to break the shutters in our bedroom, it's the Gerry touch you know".
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  • Kay Locke Belinda I'm not defensive. I have no opinion at all, and have not stated one, but I am Admin and here to ensure that members view the facts from the files and not information stated as fact when it's speculation, that's all. Thanks Belinda.
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  • Belinda McCarthy Kay, in future I will try to remember to write IMO (in my opinion) in my future posts if it comes across as apeculation. Thankyou.
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  • Kay Locke Cheers 
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  • Velma Fleming It certainly struck me the same. As in why say they were jemmied when they obviously weren't. As if they should have been so pre planned. X.
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  • Belinda McCarthy IMO, I hereby do speculate that the "faked abduction" was pre-planned from Sunday evening when the Mark Warner nanny was minding Madeleine in apartment 5A. IMO Madeleine fell off the top of the lounge (whilst holding cuddle cat, hence the cadaver odor...See More
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  • Paul Catley we've all got our own ideas and theories on what happened in the few days leading up to mm's disappearance but I'm sure we're all agreed on the fact that very little of what is claimed by the mccanns and their friends is true, a lot of it is pure bullshit with a lot of twisting of the truth thrown in
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  • Velma Fleming Hear hear Paul. 🏻🏻
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OPPOSITION TO THE APPEAL (Image is of original appeal)

On 13th July 2015 at 20.31.48 there was an opposition to the appeal filed at Ms Duarte's office by Mr Correia Afonso on behalf of the McCanns.

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  • Fiona Mcleod What does this mean then please?
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  • Kay Locke the appeal launched by Snr Amaral has received a registered opposition from McCann legal team.
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  • Caroline Denver Will it carry much weight? Surely if the judge has given Snr Amaral leave to appeal then they have no grounds to oppose it?
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  • Fiona Mcleod Mmmm suppose they have to try. I hope it's thrown out. Bit worrying that. Do you know on what reasons they have done it. Thanks Kay
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  • Tasha Turner Oh what, omg they carry on persecuting him.
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  • Kay Locke I think it would be normal practice to be honest, nothing to worry about.
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  • Shiela Sophia Bashier Let us hope so !
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  • Kay Locke I expected it...
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  • Susie Barlow They really are the pits. It's obviously got them worried though.
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  • Martina McCosker That poor man deserves justice for what that pair and their big high paid lawyers put him through, and if he doesn't get it, I for one will be angry beyond words.
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  • Stacey Dervey Ohhhh...well there's a turn up for the books..you mean they've opposed the appeal the pros are saying wasn't even lodged.. ?
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  • Lorraine Holden No law against appeals that I'm aware of but shows their worried..good
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  • John Mckinley When will it all end? I'm sick of it.
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  • Isabel Oliveira They can't afford to be defeated , in public opinion terms, so I would have been quite surprised if they had not filed a contestation to GA's appeal .
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  • Nana Lynda All the more reason for us to share OP's & Lizzy's website details as much as we can. Good people donated monies to help find Madeleine, or so they thought, The public need educating.
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  • Marian Greaves Isabel Oliveira what is the wording of that notice please
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  • Maureen Kirkwood Why can't they just leave the poor man alone.
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  • Maureen Kirkwood They can't stand the fact the we are supporting him with the fund
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  • Isabel Oliveira That's the notice for GA's appeal filing it says , in summary now since I'm on my phone ) proof of filing of processual piece ( the appeal ) then details about time and date filed , which court , and at the very bottom it says add to existing process , then bottom right : process number ( the process , the appeal and the contestation if the appeal are now all part of the existing process and the file number is the same) .
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  • Mary Maxwell Can anyone translate please
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  • Marian Greaves Exactly Maureen Kirkwood I would have thought it was his legal right to appeal so i don't know how they can oppose it
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  • Maureen Kirkwood Will that cost him more in legal fees Isabel?
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  • Isabel Oliveira That's a receipt of filing of GA's appeal . Only the McCanns' lawyers will have their receipt for contesting the appeal .
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  • Marian Greaves Isabel Oliveira will this mean more costs for him, will he have to fight the contestation
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  • Isabel Oliveira Can't answer that without knowing what their contestation is about . If it is a formal matter that implies submission of more documents , then the answer would be yes . If it is a substantial ( legal content ) contestation then I don't think so . But hard to tell without knowing what it is they contested .
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  • Mary Maxwell Where does it say the mccanns have opposed GA appeal
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  • Isabel Oliveira No, it's up to the court to appreciate both parties legal arguments .
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  • Lorraine Holden How can someone contest someone's God given legal right to appeal Ffs someone explain this to me?
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  • Isabel Oliveira It's a legal right . It's common practice . They can invoke that legally there are no grounds for appeal and justify their claim . It's normal procedure , nothing to worry about x
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  • Lorraine Holden Ok good cheers Bella xx
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  • Fiona Mcleod They try to dispute the content of what GA has appeald with. It's the norm if they think they can stop it with some legal parafanalia. If that makes any sense lol
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  • Fiona Mcleod Isabel Oliveira that's what I was trying to say lol
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  • Belinda Whitting For god sake will they never leave the poor man alone
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  • Isabel Oliveira Well bring on the paraphernalia . We're ready ! I'm sorry but yesterday the paper brought a story of families of murdered victims of domestic abuse being awarded 60 thousand Euros . 

    500 thousand for pseudo psychological distress from a factual book , from two people that courted the media since day one and to their benefit , to claim their innocence and save their skins . It's obscene !
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  • Marian Greaves Is there any more we can do Isabel Oliveira
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  • Isabel Oliveira Nothing but to continue as we have . Strong and united . We will get there in the end . Perseverance and fight back with facts and never give up . X
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  • Marian Greaves Isabel Oliveira would it be any use if we did an online petition to give to the appeal court to tell them how we feel it is injust the amount of damages
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  • Isabel Oliveira No , as well intentioned as it is , it wouldn't help x
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  • Lord Miles Spencer What I don't understand is why can't someone Portuguese demand the courts insist the files that have been withheld - AGAINST Portuguese law- be released - SPECIFICALLY the ones that do not fall into the three secrecy options given - let's start with Annexo 37 and the missing witness statements - why isn't someone pursuing this - OR maybe GA ought to just say sod it and release his secrets x
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  • Caro Mitchell If he can keep it going until SY move their bums and finish it
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  • Jan Bones I wonder what they've contested on. It's irritating not having any facts. GA's appeal was lodged @ 11:11 though so for people that believe in synchronicity or spirit, that's a good omen.
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Thank You For the Invite x

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  • Helen Kirsty Antcliff Welcome to the page, Ann. 
    The welcome thread has links and info you may find interesting. smile emoticon
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A very warm welcome to new members and readers. If you are new to the case, the linked documentary is a good place to start. 
A great resource for further links to the files and videos relating to the case is also linked.
Admin are always here to help smile emoticon

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11 - RIP Brenda, Linda & Dawn - We Will Always Remember - We Are Your Voice Now!

Always thinking of them XX

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  • Sarah Carabine RIP Linda, Brenda and Dawn.
  • Linda Mee Beautiful Tributes. R.I.P .Linda, Brenda, Dawn xxx
  • Nana Lynda Gone too soon, all of you beautiful, caring ladies. I miss our banter Dawn Franks xxx RIP.
  • Chris Roberts Dawn was still on my friends list and I dIdn't have the heart to remove her frown emoticon
  • Chris Roberts and I still retain our PM logs ... if I need to laugh I read them because Dawn really WAS something else. smile emoticon
  • Heather Hopper I have a message to Brenda that I cannot delete. May they now have peace.
  • Chris Roberts No-one ever dies as long as they are remembered with affection.
  • Heather Hopper Then remember her like that Chris.Whatever it was that changed her to be a despairing woman must have been so enormous.
  • Helen Kirsty Antcliff Nor should you, Chris. X
    For me, Dawns honesty was refreshing, in our pm's together and in her open comments, she was always a caring lady. 
    Ironside will always be a leading light in this case, thanks to her for her research, integrity, bravery and h
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  • Chris Roberts When someone is unable to carry the torch any longer. it is incumbent on those remaining to ensure that it burns as brightly as it always has and always will until those responsible are brought to justice. That is why we are here.
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  • Nana Lynda Dawn is still in my friends list too Chris Roberts and I have all our pm's. She was funny, witty, honest and loved her boys. I didn't know the other two ladies but am sure they were wonderful too. x
  • Ciara Fitzpatrick Keeley sory for my ignorance but i know who brenda was but who was linda and dawn and what happened to them..
  • Heather Hopper Linda used the name Steel Magnolia for her wonderful blog.She had terminal breast cancer yet continued to blog right up to the end of her life. She was a personal friend of mine and helped me on a personal level when she was very ill. Dawn, another young woman who was very focussed on the case who sadly took her own life.
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  • Ciara Fitzpatrick Keeley God that's sad..
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Royal Air Force's photo.

It is with great sadness that Flight Sergeant Will Barrow from the ‪#‎RAF‬ Police announces the death of his retired Arms and Explosive Search Dog, Buster.

http://www.raf.mod.uk/…/buster-the-dog-who-saved-a-thousand…

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  • Tracey Mitchell Awww Rip Buster, Springers are wonderful dogs, with all 3 of mine I was broken hearted when they passed, they are the most intellegent, loving animals you can get. My five month old sat staring up at my loft for ages and wouldn't move, was freaked out thought there was something up there, turns out his teddy had been dropped in a box with stuff I had packed away...they don't use them as sniffer dogs for nothing.
  • Chris Roberts RIP Buster, another star in the sky tonight.
  • Tony Lovell He done his duty and should be put to rest with respect .and a medal fore all he saved in the line of duty
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Can you speak Spanish ? In this Spanish tv interview with the Portuguese investigation forensic doctor, he confirms that if the parents were Portuguese they would be in jail already, because of the evidence of cadaver dogs. Also, he explains that he found reallyweird that the Mcccaans, instead of asking for police to look for their daughter in the first place, they asked to see a priest, right after the disappereance. The second thing they asked for,, was to find an image advisor.

Hasta que se sepa la Verdad:http://mercedessigueaqui.blogspot.com.es/ Debate sobre el caso Madeleine McCann con entrevista a Paulo Sargento - Emitido el 19 ...
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  • Jim Rogers and the next question was where was the nearest bank
  • Isabel Oliveira Love her last sentence . "Thank you for hosting this programme in a serious manner and thank you for giving Madeleine McCann a chance when most of the press is only giving the McCanns a chance ."
  • Linda Holden Made it quite clear there was no abduction. That the forensics told a different tale and That Dr Amaral's book had been faithful to the findings of the case and the files was what i picked up from my long lapsed Spanish.
  • Linda Holden Oh and the fact that Gerry was aggressive and impulsive and that it was he who had taken command.
  • Linda Holden Also that the news was released by the media at 12;01 am on 4 May when the police were only called at 20 minutes to 11 ! 
    This is a very powerful discussion. I wish my Spanish was better. Comes across LOUD and CLEAR to me that none of those people believed a word that was uttered by the McCanns or their media team.
  • Isabel Oliveira It's just perfect Linda x thank you Vic for the video post . Most interesting .
  • Linda Holden It would be wonderful if this could be subtitled.
  • Isabel Oliveira Maybe a summarised transcript yes . If it's not done yet we could both do half ? Or say if Vic would like to do some we could divide in three parts and transcribe as per time slots ? Mind I understand it because it's very similar to Portuguese, I don't actually speak Spanish but a mixture of what we endearingly call Portuñol 😀.
  • Linda Holden Oh I wish I thought my Spanish was good enough- it's 40 years since I lived and worked in Spain, Isabel. I get the drift , but not the fine detail or the idioms. It needs someone far better than me to do this justice.
  • Isabel Oliveira Your summary was perfect Linda your Spanish is good x
  • Claire Horiansky-Hughes Great post  I'd love to know all they said  xx
  • Linda Holden I'll keep watching the video, Isabel. I need a few weeks in Spain - it does all come back to me then smile emoticon
  • Maureen Kirkwood Linda my daughter is in this group she has lived in Spain for 17yrs and speaks fluent Spanish, i will ask her if she can help you with the translation
  • Isabel Oliveira Thank you Maureen x
  • Isabel Oliveira We could divide in 3 sections it wouid be easier for us that way x say I can do the first 3.5 minutes x
  • Linda Holden I'd love to help really, if I felt I could this justice, but as this is important to get right , I really know my Spanish is not up to it, so I shall have to decline. frown emoticon
  • Chris Roberts Deborah Law might be a better bet.
  • Heather Hopper I livedinSpain for 15yearsand can speak excellent Spanglish. Will not offer to help though as this needs someone with 100% ability to translate. xx
  • Linda Holden I agree, Heather.
  • Isabel Oliveira Tell you what , I'll do it bit by bit but won't be all at same time . Say 2 to 3 minutes at a time over a few days . It will be like watching a soap opera . You'll have to wait for the next episode  any mistakes I may do either Heather or Linda or Vic or Deborah may help me correct x
  • Linda Holden Aw bless your sweet heart- rest assured i won't be able to correct anything lol. As I said I get the drift but not the detail. I also get the sheer disbelief of all of the people who are involved in this discussion. Mercedes M, who posted tis on Youtube has a blogspot, and a You tube channel where she posts many things re Mc's.she's also on Twitter. xx
  • Isabel Oliveira I'm almost finishing notes till the end of Paulo Sargento's interview so I'll try to post that first bit here when I type it , maybe tonight x thank you Linda x
  • Vic Fernandez-Celdran Sorry guys, I have been so busy with work I didnt have the time to write a translation transcript. Have the Spanish speaking members understood by video? it is really interesting. Isabel Oliveira have you written any transcript of the video? It looks ...See More
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  • Linda Holden Even with my limited Spanish it is very clear to me what opinions are about this in the big wide world outside of UK. It is frightening what information control there is of the British Media, Vic Fernandez-Celdran.
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  • Isabel Oliveira Hi Vic , I've done it up to the end of Paulo Sargento's interview . I haven't had the time yet to type the translated transcript so at this stage I'm Looking at tomorrow for posting that bit here . X
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  • Vic Fernandez-Celdran Great job Isabel Oliveira thank you so much! x
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  • Isabel Oliveira Very welcome Vic. It's going to be a slow transcript during next week since I will be busy , but if you have patience with me it will be completed by then . A bit at a time x
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Who Died in the McCann's Apartment? 

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Everyone should see the Tavares Interim Report

10 - Tavares Interim Report - Madeleine DIED, Parents HID HER BODY and SIMULATED an abduction.(Illustrated portion for easier viewing)

From the Portuguese Police Files released July 2008 Madeleine McCann A report by Chief Inspector Tavares de Almeida to the Coordinator of the Criminal Investigation Where he concludes, after analyz...
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Happy Birthday Linda Hutton hope you have a good 1, its great been 21 again isnt it xx

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can I I create a new line of discussion please . ROBERT MURAT. I cannot find any history on this guy at all . school ,military , previous work siblings . all information has been removed from search engines

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  • Isabel Oliveira Janine, what I said before in this thread, his computers were technically examined by forensic experts and there was nothing ilegal in the machines. That is all I have been saying. 

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  • Tracey Mitchell He may have deleted encrypted stuff on his computer but without evidence that he was involved in the disappearance of Madeleine those files could be about anything, so only supposition. There is no evidence that he was involved at all, he was quite helpful to the police and made himself stand out....they saw him coming
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For anyone interested in the law and how its effected the case so far hope it will give you a insight into how ,certain statements and ploys have come about ,the main one being the parents being made suspects hence the swift departure !

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I'm watching the Secret Life of Twins. Apparently identical twins DO have differences in DNA.And it takes months for these samples to be analysed in a lab. I've just watched a medical sniffer dog , in SECONDS, alert to the DNA of one of the baby twins he has been trained to detect. The twins' samples were in with 5 other different samples of DNA. Dogs unreliable my foot.

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  • Marie Coyne I'm a twin mom was watching too and thought too about the mccann case sniffer dogs x
  • Jodie Griffin Medical detection dogs who trained the dog who featured on last nights show have a page on facebook, the dogs are brilliant its amazing what they can do smile emoticon
  • Linda Holden When you look at the Twin DNA link above and see the tiny differences in the DNA and what has to be done to detect this in a lab, it makes you realise just how incredible a dog's sense of smell is. There again, in the wild they are reliant on this specialism, so naturally it is highly developed.
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9 – NEGLECT? Are you SURE the McCanns neglected their children?

Claiming 'neglect' suggests that it was the reason that Madeleine disappeared! Unless one believes there was an abduction, there were far more serious things happening that night than leaving the children alone...

According to the police investigation, Madeleine had died, they hid her body and simulated an abduction... Neglect is a welcome smokescreen to that accusation!

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  • Lizi Gray I've never managed to get my head around the fact that nine adults would all agree to leave eight very young children home alone.
  • Belinda Whitting I was angry that it gives all us Brits a bad name... We always took our children out with us on holidays... No way would we have left them behind:-(
  • Belinda McCarthy IMO there was no neglect on Sunday night when Mark Warners Nanny was minding Madeleine in apartment 5A. Madeleine fell off top of sofa (holding cuddle cat, hence the cadaver odor on it) smashed her head on the tiled floor & sadly died. The McCanns were terrified of an autopsy being done as it would show long term sedation etc & they would lose their careers & the twins.
  • Nana Lynda I am with Lizi Gray on this one, no way would all those adults agree to leave their children.
  • Mari Parker one of the couples admitted to leaving their baby even though she was sick and diarrhoea,something very wrong with what happened on that holiday
  • Elle Stevens what doors inside and outside of the apartment had fingerprints belonging to MMs?
  • Abby Bee No one with maybe the exception of druggies would actually leave their kids in an unlocked holiday room, especially not doctors. Smoke screen. Sad that they seem to have got off with hiding the truth. After all these years so many people still believe their abduction tale
  • Lizzy Hideho Taylor Stop and think about it for a second.... Supposing the children were being watched, as would happen with any normal parents.... How would the abductor get in to take Madelelne?

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  • Joanna Cooper Of course it's neglect, you don't leave children alone
  • Lizi Gray IMO, there is no evidence of abduction, nor has any ever been offered.... I have struggled for years to try to understand under what circumstances an accidental death would need to be "covered up" to prevent a postmortem....
  • Jenny Harrison Bruises on the last 'alledged' last pic with the tennis balls p'haps
  • Maria Fernanda Leon MW nanny was minding Maddie on Sunday??Is it on the PJ files?
  • Belinda McCarthy Long term sedation, abuse etc would show up on a postmortem after an accidental death & the McCanns coverup of Madeleines death was their only option if they were not to lose their careers & the twins.
  • Jenny Harrison She appeared to have littlepatience with Madeleine from the start, colic, demanding and a trying child...I am suprized she went for IVF so soon with the twins.
  • Mary Maxwell IMO there was no neglect in the capacity of leaving the kids alone BUT neglect in how Madeleine died. That should not happen ..However accidents do happen to children no matter how careful a parent might be but in this case I feel however she died had to be covered up to save their own skin from what is the question
  • Tracey Mitchell I think Madeleine died on the 1st and I think it was Madeleine Mrs Fenn heard crying, I also believe Kate was in the apartment with the children and something happened, doesn't seem like Kate could cope with Madeleine (reports say the Mcann's tried to ...See More
  • Jenny Harrison The photo with the makeup bothers me...I don't think it's just a child playing with mummys makeup, it would be smeared all over the place...that and other disturbing things I am reading.
  • Tracey Mitchell I have photos like that of my daughter when she was little when she asked me to put make up on her when i have been doing mine, I personally see nothing sinister about that photo other than a small child wanting to be like mummy. Obviously we know abo...See More
  • Jenny Harrison Yes his description was over the top, I have never known any male that would be able to describe my girls to that extent when they were young. I understand what you're saying about the makeup Tracey Mitchell, but for some reason it niggles at me.
  • Tracey Mitchell Me too, his description of the toddler was horrifying, if you asked most men they would most likely be quite vague, if there was sexual abuse that would mean one or both of the Mcann's were involved...not sure what I think about that but if any man did...See More
  • Tracey Mitchell I think most people's theories of what happened are possible, the only one that isn't in my opinon is abduction which we know never happened. Kates comments in her book about Madeline and her genitals (don't even want to recall it let alone type it) w...See More
  • Jenny Harrison Yes that comment about her perfect genitals bothers me also (haha pretty bothered person aren't I). It's like why would you need to state that. I read about Cat Eye Syndrome of which the colobama in her eye (probably not spelt correctly) is a symptom...there are many others including defects in genitals, seizures and a whole host of things. It's odd she is justifying 'perfect'...no way I would write that, I would be cringed up in a ball in a corner if I had those thoughts.
  • Tracey Mitchell If I started having thoughts like that I would be right on the phone to a psychiatrist asking what was wrong with me, its not normal but then the Mcann's seem to be a different species altogether from the rest of us normal they certainly aren't
  • Belinda McCarthy On another topic.... has anyone noticed that Madeleines face & expression in the (photoshopped) tennis photo is so very similar to how she looks in the (IMO Sunday) poolside photo, but wearing Amelias pink hat ?...Surly Kate would have taken several photos at the pool & the expressions seem to match. So easy to photo shop this face onto someone else's court side body. And I recall that the Tapas & McCanns were caught out photographing other peoples children on the tennis courts that week.
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8 – Why did McCanns pay £100,000 to TRANSLATE Police Investigation Files BUT don’t want UK Public to see them? (3.08)

On the Official Find Madeleine Facebook group, one of the Rules of the Road' is to NOT ask questions about the investigation as they do not post anything about the investigation on an open page.

Couldn't the information be of importance and CRITICAL in the search for Madeleine? Why are supporters prevented from seeing the files and deprived of information that may help to find Madeleine?

Isn't this something that SHOULD be on an open page to help in the search? The McCanns paid £100,000 (as far as we know with donated money from the fund) to have the files translated and yet do not share on open pages?

Do they share on CLOSED pages?

Support and lovely comments are nice but most people really want to help. Do they face being banned off the page if they ask even though they may have personally contributed to the translation costs?

However, there have been many members of forums and blogs that VOLUNTARILY translated the files, so WE have them here, and one can click on any of the individual files on this page to read about the police investigation.

Thanks to ALL the members that gave their time as without the files we wouldn't be able to see why the police considered Kate and Gerry as 'suspects'.

Is THAT why the McCanns prevent their supporters from viewing the files?

McCanns paid £100,000 to TRANSLATE Files – WHY haven’t they released them? (3.08)

McCanns paid £100,000 to TRANSLATE Files - WHY haven't they released them? (3.08) ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS OF OFFICIAL INQUIRY FILES and...
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  • Audrey Nayler How the hell did it cost £100,000 to translate the files.
  • Mary Maxwell And who did the translation
  • Audrey Nayler Someone who saw them coming and made a fast buck out of them that is for sure. Still it wasn't their money to throw around was it.
  • Susan Ferry Because then we would know the truth that they where suspects right from the begining. For some reason they are getting away with it. Friends in high places!
  • Gina Wheeler hadn't the files already been translated and were available before they spent ridiculous amounts? or weren't the efforts of the so called 'anti's' good enough for them? grumpy emoticon
  • Belinda McCarthy The McCanns attitude towards their sheep would amount to not revealing the truth of the files to them because " ignorance ( of truth) is bliss" to them.
  • Mason James Yes indeed that's the $100000 question
  • Lizzy Hideho Taylor I truly believe that the one thing the McCanns fear the most is for the UK public, to learn about the police files...

    The purpose of this group is to do what the media is not doing...letting the UK PUBLIC know about the files!
  • Belinda McCarthy In these case files that are open only to the truth seekers let's take a serious look at SILVIA BATISTA... Scotland Yard recently has & for good reasons.....read all her statements, especially the 3rd statement that she came back to add extra informat...See More
  • Tricia Doolan Belinda....Madeleine could off easily walked out off that apt if she wanted to, she could off got out off the bed, gone to the parents bedroom as she didn't know what the time was, saw they weren't there and opened the patio doors quite easily, remembe...See More
  • Tracey Mitchell I agree she could have wandered off, that is when I first suspected the Mcann's because they immediately screamed abduction, if a child was left alone sleeping with an unlocked door and mum and dad were not there, your first thought and only thought fo...See More
  • Belinda McCarthy SILVIA BATISTA & Scotland Yards latest re-questioning of her will hopefully produce interesting results. Her "thought provoking" statements can be read in the case files.
  • Belinda McCarthy Scotland Yard should re-question Catriona, Charlotte & Amy. These 3 could have easily have been intimidated (prior to writing their police statements) by the McCanns & Mark Warners due to their lax creche record keeping for that week. Their jobs & Warners childcare reputation needed protection.
  • Belinda McCarthy Interesting to see that Clarence Mitchell in 2008 took up a 12 month contract working for PR agency FREUD Communications. This agency is owned by Rupert Murdock's now ex son in law...very cosy... Rebecca Brookes chose instead to be a client of Pottingers for her own PR needs.
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  • Jan Butcher I read something recently, Elle (sorry, can't remember where i saw it) but it was the suggestion that the phrase "no stone unturned" is often used as a Masonic code and several examples of it were given as to illustrate the real meaning behind its use....See More
  • Jenny Harrison I believe you are right Jan.
  • Jan Butcher Thanks Jenny - i just wish i could remember where i saw it, so i could provide a link. It made for very interesting reading and also mentioned other things which tied in with lots of other 'coincidences' and/or 'connections'.
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just measuring things up ,anyone know when Robert Murat's drive was concreted ? ( I don't think he abducted MM the way )

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  • Órfhlaith Ní Choírbín True, Sarah. Sadly. frown emoticon
  • Simon Taylor stephen birch has been made to look a chump with his theories about the drive . but what if he was seeing a situation but from the wrong angle ?
  • David Butler I wonder sometimes that maybe the most outlandish theory could turn out to be the truth eventually. I'd dismiss nothing tbh. Because this cover up seems to be covering up something much bigger imo.
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6 - HOLIDAY TIMELINE - Why Did Discrepancies Start 2 Days Before Madeleine Disappeared? Each day of the 'holiday' described according to witness statements...

One can see that 'curiosities' started to happen by Tuesday morning and one has to ask the question WHY? If nothing happened to Madeleine until Thursday evening, how are these disrepancies explained.

Each one individually may not be a 'smoking gun' in itself, but the VOLUME of discrepancies gives food for thought and WH...

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NOTE: The following is based on 4 years of research, separating the statements into 15 minute time periods. There is a link available to EVERYTHING. Some of...
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