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Nearly 100 strands of hair tested during the original Madeleine McCann investigation were never DNA-matched, it emerged today.
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I do find it really quite fascinating how the pondlife trolls from the "debate" group are so indignant at my outing of their conspiracy to cause harm to good people in real life. Other than claiming that my action was "immoral and illegal", yes, they're actually serious, this is a little gem from someone called Cass Sidebottom.

"Cass Sidebotham I find it disgusting, personally and I am equally disgusted at the lack of outrage for what was done to us. Opinions on the case asid...

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For anybody in any doubt about who was collecting information on Brenda Leyland, aka sweepyface, and the type of behaviour the likes of Pam Gurney, Jayelles and urcrazy get up to in their spare time (24/7) click on the link at the bottom of this post. Is this sort of behaviour normal, to fight freedom of speech so intensely?

Why would the likes of Pam Gurney go to the lengths of having six screens to "monitor" the groups, something she calls work?

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Very interesting transcript from an interview back in 2007 with Dr Christian Ludke - Criminal Psychologist, who pulls no punches when it comes to his professional judgement of the McCanns. 

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic19589.html

All the statements, opinions and comments made on this forum are done on a matter of public interest...
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This is just a thought ...
What about the statute of limitations for murder in Portugal. 
This case is so inconsistent, just maybe ,if the case goes unsolved long enough they won't be able to stand trial.
Case closed.
I hope not but you never know :0(

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VOLUNTEERS in blogs and forums have translated the files so EVERYONE can read them and decide...
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I'd like to draw your attention to a documentary by Bill Maloney. Bill is an award winning film maker, and a vigorous advocate for the fight against paedophilia. Bill and his family were brought up by the "care" system of the British establishment, his brothers and sisters all suffered abuse at the hands of those who were supposed to be caring for them.

Now you may think, that although this case of child abuse is harrowing it has nothing to do with the Madeleine McCann case, ...

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http://www.pienmashfilms.com A hard-hitting emotionally charged 60 min documentary by Bill Maloney (Award winning independent film director) who's family wer...
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With thanks to the excellent Syn0nymph:

Cadaver are dogs unreliable eh? You may want to rethink that....

Judge rules that cadaver evidence IS relevant and admissible in missing Amir Jennings case http://t.co/g3ls4SWo ‪#‎mccann‬ 

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With thanks to the excellent Syn0nymph:

Cadaver are dogs unreliable eh? You may want to rethink that....

Judge rules that cadaver evidence IS relevant and admissible in missing Amir Jennings case http://t.co/g3ls4SWo #mccann 

Sounds familiar, cadaver dogs smell death, witness sees man carrying child http://t.co/bfmkYAX9 http://t.co/AeNMTGYX 

Yet more cadaver success puts killers Wesley Shermantine and Loren Herzog behind bars http://t.co/CU1pvsaK 

Cadaver Dogs Help Solve Cold Case. Two cadaver dogs alert in same place.. again http://t.co/G7qwapHB 

In the Hadden clark case, Cadaver dog Dan alerted in Jan 1993 and Panzer alerted in Sept 95. 

Two more murderers behind bars thanks to Eddie & Keela and Morse http://t.co/OEPeO7lu … … 

and Adrian Prout rotting in a jail thanks to yet another EVRD http://t.co/252wfWC6 … … 

And thanks to Buster Suzanne Pilley's murderer is behind bars http://t.co/wz7bpnn0 … … 

and yet another case where if it was not for EVRD dogs, Megan Sharpton wld not have been found .. http://t.co/vWVOEVYj 

Canine expert testifed on cadaver scent in Bianca Jones case http://t.co/lXeZGotD And of course her father D'Andre Lane was found guilty of her murder. Cadaver scent detected by Morse trained by, wait for it, Martin Grime who was the handler for the dogs on the McCann case!

Then we have the Tia Sharp case where her body was moved and dogs were not put in the attic as they struggle to walk on joists http://www.thisiscroydontoday.co.uk/TIA-SHARP-Met-officers-missed-schoolgirl-s-body/story-17372278-detail/story.html Despite this a dog alerted towards the ceiling but his handler ignored it and was reprimanded for doing so when 2 days later when dogs were brought in again dogs again they alerted and the poor girl was eventually found. Human error prevented her being found earlier. Dogs did their job, humans failed

And lastly poor April Jones. A man is being held and charged with her murder based on the findings of cadaver dogs. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/jj0emm

Not so unreliable after all.
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Poor Kate...........

Poor Kate...........
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WOULD YOU LET OTHER PEOPLE, MALES OR FEMALES BATH YOUR CHILDREN..
This is my theory...
We know through the Gasper statements that this was the set up that David Payne had used in a previous holiday with the McCanns in 2005, could the same set up have been in place on the last holiday, the question is, David Payne made a disgusting remark about Maddie, (Gaspar statements) using sexual gestures and Gerry did not react to this as a normal parent would, like knock his head off h...

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In a required court document, the Judge Justice that presided over the Ian Watkins et al. case, details the graphic child sexual abuse that took place.
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Liar Liar

On the 4th of May 2007, at 11.15 a.m.Gerry McCann made a statement to the police. During the course of that interview Gerry clearly, and positively states that he entered 5a using his key to unlock the door:

"at about 21.05 the witness came to the Club, entered the room using his respective key, the door being locked, went to his children's bedroom and checked that the twins were fine, as was Madeleine. "He then went to the WC" where he remained for a few moments, l...

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Liar Liar

On the 4th of May 2007, at 11.15 a.m.Gerry McCann made a statement to the police. During the course of that interview Gerry clearly, and positively states that he entered 5a using his key to unlock the door:

"at about 21.05 the witness came to the Club, entered the room using his respective key, the door being locked, went to his children's bedroom and checked that the twins were fine, as was Madeleine. "He then went to the WC" where he remained for a few moments, left, and bumped into a person he had played tennis with and who had a child's push chair, he was also British, he had a short conversation with him"

Fair enough, if that's what happened, that's what happened. Gerry often talks of how he doesn't forget details, so he must be right.

Except that in his next statement dated 10th May 2007, he has a slightly, nay totally different version of events to tell the police:

"At 21H05, MATHEW returned, the time at which the deponent left the table to go check on his children. He walked the normal route up to the back door, which being open he only had to slide, and while he was entering the living room, he noticed that the children's bedroom door was not ajar as he had left it but half-way open, which he thought was strange, having then thought that possibly MADELEINE had got up to go to sleep in his bedroom, so as to avoid the noise produced by her siblings. Therefore, he entered the children's bedroom and established visual contact with each of them, checking and he is certain of this, that the three were deeply asleep. He left the children's bedroom returning to place the door how he had already previously described, then went to the bathroom. Everything else was normal, the shutters, curtains and windows closed, very dark, there only being the light that came from the living room.

So the door was locked?
The door wasn't locked?

Important factors.

Moving onto Gerry's 3rd statement on the 7th September 2007 where he suddenly remembers the time and details with the precision of a doctor's scalpel.

"When asked at what time he went to check on the children the night Madeleine disappeared, he recalls that this was around 21:04 according to his watch. He remembers that once inside the apartment he was surprised that the door to the children's room was slightly more open than how he had left it when he and Kate left for dinner. However, it could have been Madeleine who had opened the door after waking and getting up, eventually to go to her parents’ room. On this occasion, the three children were lying in their beds asleep, he is sure of this. Moreover, he says that with respect to Madeleine she was in the same position in which he had left her at the beginning of the night. Madeleine was lying down on her left side, completely uncovered, i.e. lying on top of the covers, with the soft toy and blanket, both pink, next to her head; he does not know if they were in the position that can be seen in the photograph attached to the files"

A more cynical man would call this over elaborating a lie, a common trait that is often used by a liar to make the unbelievable appear more realistic.
Now, do I go on to discuss the fact that had Madeleine been laid on top of the covers it would be very odd for the corner of those covers to be pulled back perfectly neatly and straight, more appropriate for someone ready to get into bed, or do I get back to doors, because there's something else about the doors of that apartment.

In an article dated 21st September 2007, a family friend (cough, I smell something pungent and pink) talked about how Gerry was convinced the "abductor" was hiding behind the bedroom door when he checked on the children.

"Gerry believes there was certainly something odd," the friend said. "The bedroom door was ajar when he got in and he thought: 'That's strange'.
"He went into the room, checked that Madeleine was still asleep in bed; she was and he came out, closed the door.
"Initially he thought she might have got up and gone to the toilet or gone to get a drink or something but now he thinks that the abductor must have been in there hiding."
The friend said Gerry had pondered over the sequence of events that night for four and half painful months. "He believes the abductor came in, opened the door and didn't have time to close it (before Mr McCann arrived)," 

But unless Gerry had eaten a bodacious amount of carrots that evening how would it have been possible to see if Madeleine was in her bed without going over to check, given that Matt Oldfield could only see the twins from the doorway on his check and not Madeleine. If Gerry had entered the room to check it would be inconceivable for him not to have noticed an adult standing behind the door.

Put that to one side for now, Gerry wants to tell the story that way so we'll roll with G for a bit.

After Gerry's check and his toilet break he leaves the apartment, and bumps into Jez Wilkins on the street outside. Whom he stops to talk to for a few moments (depending on whose story you believe) Enter stage right Jane Tanner, and the sighting of Bundleman. If Gerry, was, as is reported, convinced the "abductor" was in 5a when he did his check, then it follows that he didn't believe Jane Tanner saw the abductor. Yet the McCanns couldn't have made her sighting more public if they'd projected images of Bundleman onto every major landmark on the planet, and tattooed him across Katie Price's planet sized Elma Fudds. In fact they backed this sighting so much that they refused to put any faith in the Smith sighting at 10pm, claiming that they only had resources to follow up one sighting....................Yeah righto.

Getting back to the locked/unlocked door though, and I'm purely speculating here, but I can't get the lies about the shutters out of my head. You know the ones, the McCanns phoned friends in the UK instead of searching for their lost/stolen 3 year old little girl and blatantly LIED by telling them an intruder had "smashed" "jemmied" "broken" the shutters to gain access and take Madeleine...............now why would an abductor do that when the door was unlocked, and why would a parent assume they had if they knew the door had been left unlocked.

None of it makes sense, but if I was to hazard a guess then here it is. The door WAS locked, the plan was to damage the shutters to set the scene, but before that could be done the alarm was raised, people were watching............with no sign of a break in, and a locked door, Kate and Gerry were rumbled, the only thing left to do was change the plan. 7 days later and after a lot of nervous thought Gerry had to say the door was unlocked. Not that it matters much, Gerry will never have to explain his sudden change of tack, certainly not to Scotland Yard, though the fact still remains, Gerry McCann is an unsavoury, unscrupulous and sadly an unchallenged liar.
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The latest in MSM bs, lets pin it on him he's a pervert anyway, no-one would miss him. Ploy to brush it under the carpet, when the real question is.... Where is Madeleine McCann?

The latest in MSM bs, lets pin it on him he's a pervert anyway, no-one would miss him. Ploy to brush it under the carpet, when the real question is.... Where is Madeleine McCann?
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I have just been looking at the arrivals document at Portugal, next to the McCanns is 1 - 5 which I believe to be, 1 Apartment, 5 Guests. However the rep has written something next to the arrival, and has mentioned something about 4? There isn't anything next to any other peoples arrivals, was this holiday doomed from the off????? It just looks strange to me  
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ARRIVALS.htm

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Analysts want to re-examine evidence retrieved from apartment from which Madeleine went missing in 2007
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Do the McCanns control the media?

We've seen many times in the past what happens if MSM print a story that isn't to the McCanns liking. Carter Ruck ride into town quicker than a cowboy on buy one get one free moonshine night. It would appear the McCanns now have the biggest firm of libel lawyers on the face of the planet on a "no win no fee" basis, you think I'm joking, I'm not.
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The latest proof of this came just at the turn of the month, with the McCanns reportedly receivi...

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Do the McCanns control the media?

We've seen many times in the past what happens if MSM print a story that isn't to the McCanns liking. Carter Ruck ride into town quicker than a cowboy on buy one get one free moonshine night. It would appear the McCanns now have the biggest firm of libel lawyers on the face of the planet on a "no win no fee" basis, you think I'm joking, I'm not.
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The latest proof of this came just at the turn of the month, with the McCanns reportedly receiving £55,000 from The Times newspaper, a publication owned by Rupert Murdoch, the very man who once threw his full and mighty weight behind the McCanns.

So what would cause the McCanns to bite the hand that once fed them?
Well it was the good old suppressed efit story, the row that so often raises it's ugly head, and there's no getting away from the fact that the head that is raised on this occasion IS that of Gerry McCann.

On the 27th October 2013 The Times ran a story on the efit gained by Oakley International (a team of private investigators hired by the McCanns) from a man called Martin Smith. Smith claimed he was up to 80% sure he saw Gerry McCann carrying a small, motionless child, towards the beach at approximately 10pm on the night Madeleine was reported missing, The Times claimed this information was withheld for 5 years by the McCanns.

This was untrue, The Times got it wrong, but only on a technicality........the McCanns didn't hide the efit from the police, at least not for 5 years, it was actually 11 months (still this was hardly with any urgency). They did hide it from the public for 5 years though. Scotland Yard went as far as to make it the centrepiece on crimewatch in October 2013, describing their findings as "a revelation moment" It was hardly that, given that the efits were handed to the McCanns in November 2008, (5 years previous to crimewatch) So we begin to see where the confusion arose. Even after the crimewatch episode the McCanns weren't quick out of the blocks to splash this newly released efit onto their Official Find Madeleine Page, as they weren't rushing to put it on 5 years ago either, despite them releasing plenty of other efits in that time, and despite Scotland Yard totally dismissing Jane Tanner's "sighting" that efit still to this day remains there. I could go on, Kate failed to mention it in her propaganda pamphlet, (more commonly known as her book) a fine work of twisted truths and red herrings if ever one was written. There were interviews, tv shows, press conferences, PR spokesmen, nothing, no mention of the Gerr-efit. So the McCanns DID suppress the evidence from the public, just not from the police.

This however isn't the main focus of my post, my main focus is this, do the McCanns control what comes out in the media? and the answer is yes, or they sue. That is the crux of it.
The following extract is from The Press Gazette Journalism Today, and it outlines just how much of a stranglehold the McCanns appear to have on the MSM:

"They (the McCanns) also claimed that the paper's Insight team, which wrote the story, had not told their spokesman the full extent of the allegations which were to be made against them.
The McCanns also said that the story did not include several points made to Insight by their spokesman."

Ah yes, their spokesman, a family source, a friend close to the McCanns, yes we know all about their spokesman, and long have we suspected the control he has over the media, especially some of the red tops who print mile after mile of pro McCann rubbish.............."arrests to be made within days" bla bla bla, and how many times have we seen the PJ have information leaked much to their annoyance, at the hands of "a spokesman"

So there it is, you might not like it, I don't like it, but the McCanns seem to have this power over what is written and what isn't, on what they decide is vital evidence and what the police decided is vital evidence, and if you're a newspaper you better not cross them or you'll be Carter Rucked!

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/sunday-times-sued-mccanns-over-story-which-wrongly-claimed-evidence-was-withheld-police
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Well done Guardian, you've managed to out do yourself with this piece of garbage!

http://www.theguardian.com/…/what-made-kate-gerry-mccann-ob…

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Another thought provoking read by Criminal Profiler, Pat Brown....

http://patbrownprofiling.blogspot.co.uk/…/why-do-people-twe…

2:15 PM Brenda Leyland Maddy McCann Please feel free to join in our discussion and comment on the "Criminal Profiling Topic of the Day"!
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Kate McCann said seeing her private diary published in the News of the World made her feel "totally Violated" but didn't find it in any way strange to mention torn genitals on page 129 of her book "Madeleine" that she knew her twins would read as they grew up

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/…/Leveson-Inquiry-Kate-McCann-vi…

Teena Jane's photo.
Teena Jane's photo.
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Have members ever wondered why the parents and the tapas 7 declined to help in making a reconstruction with the Portuguese police? Of course a reconstruction would have shown that their timelines for events that night didn't quite work out, despite them changing their statements as they went along. Have a read of the following link and make your own mind up

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id279.html

Apr 8, 2008 McCanns Asked To Return To Portugal The parents of Madeleine McCann have been asked to go back to Portugal to take part in a reconstruction of the night she disappeared. There has been no decision on whether they will...
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The McCanns were NOT cleared:

Jose de Magalhaes e Menezes was, along with João Melchior Gomes the man responsible for producing a 58-page report - the concluding volume of the case files - which explained the reasons behind the decision to archive the process.

Despite reports on Wikipedia and some pro McCann forums this report did NOT clear the McCann's of any involvement in the loss of Madeleine, in fact by raising doubt over their stories it did quite the opposite, below ar...

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The McCanns were NOT cleared:

Jose de Magalhaes e Menezes was, along with João Melchior Gomes the man responsible for producing a 58-page report - the concluding volume of the case files - which explained the reasons behind the decision to archive the process.

Despite reports on Wikipedia and some pro McCann forums this report did NOT clear the McCann's of any involvement in the loss of Madeleine, in fact by raising doubt over their stories it did quite the opposite, below are some quotes from the report:

“The witnesses’ statements revealed important details which were not entirely understood and coherent”.

“The technique for this is a reconstruction, but despite every effort by the Public Prosecutor’s office and the JP [Policia Judiciara]…this was not possible”.

“The work of these dogs can be appreciated much better on film...the dogs are trained in detecting dead persons".

“The fact that the parents were the last people known to have been with Madeleine, alive and in a known place, particularly with the possibility of a body having been in the apartment and in the vehicle used by the parents…meant they had to be placed under suspicion. The parents had no plausible explanation for these facts. Faced with the evidence produced by the dogs and the laboratories, they had to be named as suspects…”

"The possibility of abduction was exhaustively investigated. No ransom was ever requested, nor were there any sufficiently consistent clues found to support this theory”.

“…the parents were the last people known to have been with Madeleine, alive and in a known place…the possibility of a body having been in the apartment and in the vehicle used by the parents were reasons for suspecting their involvement. As they were called once more to make a statement, having no plausible explanation for these facts and faced with evidence produced by the dogs…they had to be named as suspects…”

So far from being cleared the McCann's it would seem STILL have questions to answer, plausible explanations to give.......remember Kate refusing to answer those 48 questions? Neither Kate or Gerry have been interviewed by the PJ since. The attorney general wasn't the only person to doubt the McCann's:

Moite Flores, former police inspector and now political commentator in Portugal: “The only thing proven was that there was no abduction. I have no doubt that the child died”

Lee Rainbow, Britain’s top criminal profiler: “Madeleine's father was the last one to see her alive. The family is a lead that should be followed. Contradictions in Gerald McCann's statements might lead us to suspect a homicide”.

Assistant Chief Constable of Leicestershire Police (2007): “While both or one of [the McCanns] may be innocent, there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance”.

Former top British detective, John Stalker: “My gut instinct is that some big secret is probably being covered up”.

Ricardo Paiva, one of the chief detectives on the original investigation, told a Lisbon court in January 2010: “I share Gonçalo Amaral’s statement in the book. Maddie died, probably in a tragic accident, and all indications point towards the parents hiding the body”.

Director of the Portuguese National Counter-Terrorism Unit, Luís Neves: “Hiding a body and accidental death are possibilities”.

Intercalary report: Chief Inspector Tavares Almeida: "Kate McCann and Gerald McCann are involved in the concealment of the cadaver of their daughter, Madeleine McCann"

And of course the main man, Goncalo Amaral: "Let's remember: it is totally logical to find Madeleine's DNA in the home, but absolutely not in a car rented more than twenty days after her disappearance."

"The McCanns knew that I was going to get them."
If only the political interference hadn't halted the case and those queries and questions had been cleared up. 

Perhaps these people are trolls as well, or maybe, just maybe they know the truth................
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Due to the sheer volume of posts and comments on each thread about the tragic loss of Brenda Leyland, we have copied and pasted each post on the same topic into here along with the comments. Please keep it to the one thread from now on. Anyone commenting with threats or abuse aimed at the McCanns, or anyone else will be deemed to be a trouble causer and banned from the page instantly. Thanks.

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R.I.P. Brenda Leyland.

Such a tragic and unnecessary loss of life. We can't imagine how frightened and intimidated she must have felt following the shameful actions of Sky News.

Our thoughts and deepest sympathy are with Brenda's family right now.

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R.I.P. Brenda Leyland.

Such a tragic and unnecessary loss of life. We can't imagine how frightened and intimidated she must have felt following the shameful actions of Sky News.

Our thoughts and deepest sympathy are with Brenda's family right now.

Admin would like to thankyou for all the posts you are writing, please add them here so we can have a thread dedicated to Brenda.
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Hi everyone, we'd really appreciate it if you could all share the following video. Just click the share button alongside the comment and like buttons, and add it to your walls, other groups, wherever you can think of. This is something we would really like to push, it's a video covering just a few of the basic facts in the case, let's show everybody the REAL reason we're all here. We want answers, we want the truth, and we all want justice. Let's see if we can make this the most shared post to date. With thanks toLizzy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73Qrqj87gv4

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In the interest of fair and balanced reporting I would like to see Sky News thoroughly investigate the following twitter accounts, these people troll, bully, abuse, intimidate and harass twitter users on a daily basis, whilst claiming to support Kate and Gerry McCann. We do not advocate trolling of any nature and therefore ask all members to block these accounts, share this graphic and not engage in any conversation with them at all:

@wicatty009 @basilandmanuel@jayelles1 @fai...

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In the interest of fair and balanced reporting I would like to see Sky News thoroughly investigate the following twitter accounts, these people troll, bully, abuse, intimidate and harass twitter users on a daily basis, whilst claiming to support Kate and Gerry McCann. We do not advocate trolling of any nature and therefore ask all members to block these accounts, share this graphic and not engage in any conversation with them at all:

@wicatty009 @basilandmanuel@jayelles1 @fairfred1 @phoebus1 
@safarisara @jonoriver51 @josephodriscoll @wahootie
@19barbara57 @mobyra @zante03 @zannalise @truthizsexy 
@tigertiger439 @thewhitewizard7 @nicswits @thejenreturns
@thescareturns @alfibab3 @justclairee @mrbuskom @c_buskom 
@randomleigh1 @smashytashy1 @judemckew @woollyback11
@JanoschGonzalez @rebeccacasher1 @muratfan @Pool55SW19 
@portiatolkien @Verity_2012 @CrazyHorser @Tiger_Loaf
@greenink211 @greenink2II @OlwynMassey @TaraL_Tolkien
@_RobinLovejoy @superdupedoodle @News_Meister @kellycozens1
@Cop_G_Amaral @BobsStillhere @PUP_Official @sitheran
@PippaBrownp29 @mrsmlouis @pricie2 @BoyleLance @GEORDIEGIRLZ
@BrenR1958 @minack19 @DAFFODIL53 @AmaralFiction @PJ_Blunders
@nowayjomo @nowaymojo @urcrazytoo @jillslaw @kiki_barnes
@summersandswan @xmaseveevil1 @turningstones4 @woolyback12
@Cerb32 @noelogara @Irish_Gaels @xxxxxFernxxxxx @JohnnyWatergate
@cafemccann @junestrenger
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Ok, in keeping with the scaremongering issue yesterday, I'd like to bring you proof that's all it is. Below is a report from the excellent SynOnymph, a good friend of mine and a lady who really knows her stuff. Enjoy:

This is a video of Freedom of Speech Campaigner @robertsharp59 making a lot of sense on Sky News today regarding the much publicised 'dossier' which alleges trolling on social media of the McCann parents which has been handed to the Operation Grange team within ...

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Whilst I have chance to breathe can I just say on behalf of the admin here how fantastically proud we are to run this group. Despite a massive scaremongering campaign today the damage has been minimal, we have many members waiting to join, and only a tiny number opted to leave, in fact a lot less left than the leading pro group has in total. That speaks volumes, we're not the minority, we grow in numbers every day, as do our friends at groups such as:

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Whilst I have chance to breathe can I just say on behalf of the admin here how fantastically proud we are to run this group. Despite a massive scaremongering campaign today the damage has been minimal, we have many members waiting to join, and only a tiny number opted to leave, in fact a lot less left than the leading pro group has in total. That speaks volumes, we're not the minority, we grow in numbers every day, as do our friends at groups such as:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheMadeleineMcCannControversy/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/HiDeHoCONTROVERSYofMadeleineMcCann/?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/groups/TrueControversy/?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/groups/McCannGate/?fref=ts

We will not be silenced for discussing the facts, for raising awareness of the case, or for fighting for justice. Please help us become more successful than ever. We need your help to get the facts into the public arena, please share posts far and wide, share the groups, and discuss the case with friends and family. Be mindful of inciting trouble with suggestions of acts of violence. The pros love nothing more, than to use it to try and silence the majority. Nobody can take our voices away, and I for one will continue in exactly the same way as I always have. 

Goncalo Amaral is but one man, he never once turned his back on fighting for Madeleine, he endured some of the worst years of his life, and still strives for justice. We are thousands, we are winning this battle, so thank you on behalf of all the amazing bloggers who've worked tirelessly, and on behalf of ourselves.

Never forget the reason we are here, for Madeleine, a little girl who had her whole life ahead of her, we're here because her parents weren't. If that makes us trolls, well they best send their biggest billy goat.
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Thanks to the people who have now tarred us all under the same 'troll' brush. I did warn we were under scrutiny. Herehttps://www.facebook.com/JoanaAndreaMorais/posts/10152506347209682 and on twitter in the past days, and I doubt very much Brunt or any of the UK media will give us a fair coverage.

Sky News reveals that campaigners are urging police and MPs to crack down on internet abuse directed at Madeleine McCann's family.
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Vague nannies and contradictions.........

In total there were 14 employees who worked for the child care department of the Ocean club resort during the time the McCanns went on holiday. Now I'm not being funny, but either some of these nannies were on LSD, or Madeleine had the ability to become invisible to some, whilst be in plain sight of others, Kate and Gerry it would seem, possessed the rare gift of morphing from one parent into the next...........far out man!

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Vague nannies and contradictions.........

In total there were 14 employees who worked for the child care department of the Ocean club resort during the time the McCanns went on holiday. Now I'm not being funny, but either some of these nannies were on LSD, or Madeleine had the ability to become invisible to some, whilst be in plain sight of others, Kate and Gerry it would seem, possessed the rare gift of morphing from one parent into the next...........far out man!

Let's start with the 2nd of May, the day after Mrs Fenn heard crying for approximately 1hr 15 minutes, before immediately stopping when the parents returned from a night out:

Catriona Baker:

Before I go any further with the dubious Miss Baker, let me bring you up to speed on something rather odd. Before Baker's rogatory statement, which was a change from her original statements, with those staggeringly laid back Leicestershire policemen, Baker was summoned to the McCanns pad for tea and biscuits. Bear in mind the McCanns were still arguidos at this stage, and so would have broken judicial secrecy laws had they discussed the case.

"I visited the family in their home at their invitation to see how they were getting along in November of 2007."
Personally I regularly invite people round to see how I'm "getting on". You can imagine the call "Hi Cat, it's Kate McCann, we wondered if you'd like to pop round and see how we're getting on..........the fund, yes it's swelling nicely..........yes I'm sure we can arrange something............ok see you then, bye, bye, bye"

Unless of course they were just after a few tips on child care. They could sure use em.

Anyway, I best crack on or I'll be off on a thousand tangents, and I get told off for that.

Baker categorically states that she took Madeleine to the beach with 4 or 5 other children. Here we have our first discrepancy because if we look at Emma Wilding's statement, who was also a nanny at the beach that day.........

Emma Louise Wilding:

Discussing the same day as above May 2nd, 2007:

"When questioned, she states that on Wednesday May 2, her group and Madeleine's group went to the beach, but she is not sure if Madeleine was in the group or not"

So out of 10 children she doesn't remember if Madeleine was at the beach or not. Okaaaaaay.

Let's look at the 3rd of May, we'll start with Emma Wilding, who has a bizarre recollection of Madeleine being dropped off:

Emma Louise Wilding:

"When questioned she states that on May 3, 2007 it was the father that took Madeleine, as was customary, between 0900 and 0930; she remembers that she just said 'hello' to him, because as Madeline (sic) did not belong to her group she did not talk to him very much."
"She only noticed Madeleine and not her father, and nothing seemed abnormal or unusual."

NOTHING UNUSUAL APART FROM THE FACT SHE SAID HELLO TO GERRY, DESPITE NOT NOTICING HIM. IMPRESSIVE!

Moving on, are you still with me? I'm losing the will to live putting this in order.

After the clarity of Madeleine being dropped off  comes the rest of the day. Who saw Madeleine during the day of the 3rd?

Cat Baker:

Ah the amazing Miss Baker again, she claims that she took Madeleine sailing, and that this event was witnessed by two others, Chris Unswork and Alice Standley, although this isn't backed up by either "witness" anywhere in the files. Interestingly in Bakers first statement (prior to her visit to Rothley) she states that:

".........until Thursday May 3rd, the little girl came every day."

My head hurts, so she wasn't with her on the 3rd afterall, well not until she miraculously remembered she was in a later statement. Hmmmm.

I'm not done with our confused friend Catriona yet, she goes on to make another calamitous cock up, this time in her rogatory (the statement she made AFTER visiting the McCanns in England):

"The next time I saw them (Kate and Gerry) was on Saturday at lunch time, as on Friday I spent part of the morning at the Portuguese police answering questions."

Oh Miss Baker, either you had too much sun and sangria, or your memory is so bad it deems your statements unreliable. You see Baker didn't make her first statement until Sunday the 6th of May, now why would she say she hadn't seen Kate and Gerry, when clearly she had.

Charlotte Pennington:

States that she "she had direct contact with Madeleine McCann, telling her stories and speaking with her."

Although she also claims that "it was usual for Madeleine to be called "Maddy", as this is how she [Madeleine] presented herself"

Pass the paracetamol! Kate said Madeleine hated being called Maddie, why would she introduce herself as such?

Emma Wilding:

"She is not sure whether during the morning Madeleine's group had outdoor activities, mainly at the pool; she does remember that around 1230 Madelew's (sic) father went to fetch her for lunch."

"She remembers that during the afternoon of May 3 Madeleine was at the Mini Club, but she does not remember at what time she arrived, and if on that day Madeleine accompanied the other children at 1645 as was customary."

"She is also not sure whether her parents joined her during the snack, as was customary."

So another vague recollection, we already know Miss Wilding gets rather confused about things. Wilding hardly comes across as a reliable witness.

Of the remaining 10 nannies; Jacqueline Mary Williams, Kirsty Louise Maryan, Leanne Danielle Wagstaff, Lyndsay Jane Johnson, Lynne Rhiannon Fretter, Pauline Frances McCann, Sarah Elizabeth Williamson, Sarah Elizabeth Williamson, Stacey Portz and Susan Bernadette Owen, not one of them places Madeleine at the Ocean Club on either the 2nd or the 3rd, although many of them state they knew who she was.

So when people state as fact that Madeleine was seen by several nannies on the 2nd and 3rd, it's not anywhere near an accurate statement to be making, far from it. I'm not even going to get started on David Payne saying he saw her as well, Kate already blew that ridiculous claim clean out the water.

Mary Poppins sang of the importance of a spoonful of sugar, in the case of these statements it's more like a rather large pinch of salt.

All statements can be viewed here:
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TRANSLATIONS.htm
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Sara Payne, Doreen Lawrence, Shaun Russell, the Kercher family. The list goes on. What you see is a parents NATURAL reaction to losing a child. Wrongly-placed self-blame, and a dignified fight to try and make sure that NO-ONE else has to feel the pain they've felt.

There's no comparison.

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I'll wait to see the rest of what these guys produce, I'm a little bit sceptical due to them making people wait so long, however there's no denying this short video makes a good point. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tNe2wdgy4Q&feature=youtu.be

Part 1 of 4.
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Extract from statement made by GNR Officer - Jose Maria Batista Roque

"Then, while his colleague remained in the hall, and the others were in the living room, the witness went through the entire apartment. He opened all the cupboards in the bedrooms, living room and kitchen and checked under the beds and inside the washing machine. He did not see the fridge."

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X Files ...
Strange case isn’t it, with the higher echelons of power forever seemingly closing ranks to protect the parents of this missing child, invoking D notices and National security procedures and campaigns to silence anyone who dares to question the official line. You gotta love that term though, “the official line”, first heard being used in one of the early interviews when Gerry stood up in a strop after being asked an awkward question. No idea whether or not whoever...

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Strange case isn’t it, with the higher echelons of power forever seemingly closing ranks to protect the parents of this missing child, invoking D notices and National security procedures and campaigns to silence anyone who dares to question the official line. You gotta love that term though, “the official line”, first heard being used in one of the early interviews when Gerry stood up in a strop after being asked an awkward question. No idea whether or not whoever said it in the background meant Gerry should toe the line or stick to a party line or whatever but you have to wonder, does it indicate there’s a chain of command and if so who and why? Generally the term has something to do with a matter of authority and contracts involving some legal decree. In theology of course a decree means one of the eternal purposes of God by which events are foreordained…..Eww… are we all sitting comfortably, cos we’re venturing headlong into unknown conspiracy junkie territory now folks.

A few years ago I chatted to a work colleague who happened to be into a certain religious erm group, I call them sects, but would never insult her or her beliefs by calling them that. I won’t mention which, but the point is I discussed a particular subject and theory relating to this case with her at length as she was most interested in it. A couple of weeks later she broached me quietly, taking me to one side, she told me she had enthusiastically discussed all I’d told her with a higher member of her group who had listened with particular interest in what she had to say. Much to my surprise, she then went on to quietly plead with me to let this go, don’t peruse it she said but wouldn’t elaborate, only to say that’s she won’t talk about it anymore when I tried to find out what had been said. Oh, and she gave me a little crystal pyramid thingy to protect me, bless her sole.

Anyway back to the official line.. err, I mean conspiracy line.

What is it about this case or about the Mccann’s or Madeleine even that’s so special? Something is, otherwise we wouldn’t be seeing this almost unprecedented level of involvement from so many influential investors. There are things that motivate people to look for something, by something I mean a common theme or common denominator if you like, something that might link things together. Madeleine’s coloboma for instance, or so it was called at the time, since changed to simple fleck. The issues about Madeleine’s DNA, or lack of it also comes to mind and we can’t ignore the issue of parentage either which proved to be another major stumbling block for the Portuguese police. Put all that lot on the table and what you’ve got is an issue about genetics. Even the story about withholding medical records might come into it. Okay we might be putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 22 … good number if we’re talking chromosomes though. While we’re on the subject did you know that a Portuguese news report claimed that the police had in fact found Madeleine’s biological father? Venomously denied by the Mccann’s who of course threatened to sue but never did, and the papers response to that threat, “ Bring it on”. The report stated he was from Birmingham of all places, imagine that, who knows, maybe they got confused with Dolly the Sheep who was created by the FSS in their Birmingham labs.

Personally I don’t like the term clone or cloning, it conjours up all kinds of fantasy & sci fi connotations, always reminds me of an Arnold Schwarzenegger film I saw where a family dog got cloned.. I much prefer using artificial reproduction techniques. Though I don't think any of us are experts on the subject artificial human reproductive techniques which include IVF and other advanced technologies you have to wonder if there’s a little bit more to this than meets the eye.

On 5 April 2007, a month before Madeleine went missing, the House of Commons Science and Technology Committee published a report on Government proposals in relation to the Human Fertilization and Embryology Bill following a short inquiry. Directly following this a New Human Fertilization and Embryology Act began its life as a (Draft) Bill on 17 May 2007, the same month and year as Madeleine went missing. Unusually this had to have been rushed through parliament given the short space of time between the inquiry and the drafting of the new Bill. It also covered more techniques involving artificial reproduction and Surrogacy Arrangements to make provision as to who can be treated in law as the parents of a child conceived by these ‘new’ technologies. Gordon Brown even pumped £100 Million into stem cell research- “Brown said the cash would go to "pre-commercial aspects of stem cell research".

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown Defends Bill Allowing Human Cloning
by Steven Ertelt | WASHINGTON, DC | LIFENEWS.COM | 5/19/08 9:00 AM
London, England (LifeNews.com) — 'British Prime Minister Gordon Brown has passionately defended a bill that allows both human cloning and the creation of hybrids that combine human and animal DNA. Pro-life and religious groups and other MPs have criticized the Human Fertilization and Embryology Bill saying it’s unethical. 
Conservative leader David Cameron also supports some of the objectionable parts of the cloning bill, including allowing the creation of hybrids and savior siblings. '

Those familiar with this case will know G.Browns commitment to support the Mccann's. Most have also heard of Sir Richard Branson and the surprising support he put in place. But have you also heard about Virgin Health Bank and the commercial storage facility called Biovault in Plymouth, which stores 5,000 cord blood samples. Shared 50-50 with Merlin Biosciences with all profits from Virgin's share donated to other charitable cord blood stem cell projects. Sir Tom Hunter the Scottish billionaire who just so happens to be one of the people who contributed to the reward for Madeleine, bought 20 per cent of Merlin in 2006.

It wasn’t until very recently that the link between stem cells and IVF became apparent, called the IVF-Stem Cell Interface and directly linked to embryo transfer - gotta use the word again, the cloning or twinning of human embryos. Tis indeed a brave new world out there, quote by Prof S Franklin in 2008 , “In addition to being a ‘bridge to a new life’, IVF is also a bridge between clinical medicine and science – a ‘fact of life’ that has become increasingly significant in the context of human embryo research, stem cell science, cloning and regenerative medicine.” According to the Vatican the technique which has been proposed for accomplishing human cloning is called artificial embryo twinning, which “consists in the artificial separation of individual cells or groups of cells from the embryo in the earliest stage of development. Though the last Popes stance on this was, it is more dangerous than weapons of mass destruction.

You have to wonder how many years or even decades the scientific and medical community have been experimenting with this technology. How many times have they played God and created life and interfered with the natural development of the human species. More importantly though did they do it before it was legitimate and what difference would it make if they did split an embryo to create a designer baby or even more than one child .

Makes you wonder about the whooshed clip of Clarence M. speaking to a CTV presenter about the Mccanns Christmas video message. At approx 1.30 in the interview Clarence is telling the interviewer how hard Christmas will be for the Mccanns - 'they are aware of their 'other' twins, Sean and Amelie'.

And did Gerry actually make the same slip and say "One of the err other twins was crying" in another clip >

And finally .... a quote from Baroness Warnock;

"I think fears about cloning are not the fears that it would be terrible if some individual couple had a cloned baby, so much as a kind of political fear which is expressed in the mythology of Brave New World."

The Truth is out there.
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When the police ask you to do a Reconstruction then you do it! Don't argue and waste time pondering on the whys and wherefores.....just DO IT!.

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well mr birch is deluded he has posted on digging for madeliene a competition and the winner will receive a all expenses paid holiday to madelienes grave site ....he deleted me as a friend last year after i challenged some of the things he was writing like he was having a meeting with KM and various other lies ..this guy is obviously sick to even post this

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If you have any questions or useful links regarding the case then please post them here.
We will try to answer all questions as quickly as possible.

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Here is the full Oprah interview for anyone who hasn't seen

Please feel free to discuss below 

HiDeHo CONTROVERSY of Madeleine McCannhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/HiDeHoCONTROVERSYofMadeleineMcCann/ The McCanns' appearance on The Oprah Show was reco...
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Well well well, Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan, the authors of that shocking waste of perfectly good trees, "Looking For Madeleine", the worst book to await the dust mite since Kate McCann's ridiculous fairytale of red herrings and excuses, have been getting a tad, shall we say, miffed. It seems the dynamic writing duo didn't like our reviews on their book, so much so that they've taken their ball home, stamped their feet, and told mummy, or in this case that hugely popular ...

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Well well well, Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan, the authors of that shocking waste of perfectly good trees, "Looking For Madeleine", the worst book to await the dust mite since Kate McCann's ridiculous fairytale of red herrings and excuses, have been getting a tad, shall we say, miffed. It seems the dynamic writing duo didn't like our reviews on their book, so much so that they've taken their ball home, stamped their feet, and told mummy, or in this case that hugely popular Newspaper, The Irish Examiner, (reminds me of an overly amorous driving instructor I once had)

The thing is if you're going to put pen to paper and spread biased bullshit across the land like a well oiled muck spreader, designed by Isambard Kingdom Brunel, forged from the finest steel known to man, and developed by NASA's finest engineers, then pass it off as “the first independent, in-depth, and definitive account” of the disappearance of the three- year-old from her family’s holiday apartment in the Algarve on May 3, 2007, and expect to get the plaudits, you must deliver. If on the other hand you produce a half cocked concoction of one sided toilet matter, then there's an old adage, "Fly with the crows, and you'll get shot" Especially if the crows you choose to fly with are guilty of child abuse. 

Child abuse is a crime, possibly the most sinister of all, and whichever side of the fence you sit, the McCanns are 100% stone wall guilty of that crime. I take it, at least I hope these paperback propaganda producers don't know that, although if they claim to have read the PJ files, and the evidence I fail to how they could support the McCann's version of events.

The British public is growing ever more weary of the cover ups and sleaze emanating from this country, the authors of this book had the chance to stand up and make a difference. Surely that beats going down in history as the couple who had a big chance to show honesty, to be upstanding and do what was right. Instead they blew it, and then ran crying to a newspaper when things didn't go their way, wishing we'd all just be quiet..............

Hmmmm, remind you of anyone?
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Gerry McCann: 'Whoever took Madeleine is still out there and whoever that person is, or... or persons, they must have been laughing during these last six years, at what's been told.'

The 'people laughing' Gerry, are you and Kate.

Gerry McCann:   'Whoever took Madeleine is still out there and whoever that person is, or... or persons, they must have been laughing during these last six years, at what's been told.'

The 'persons laughing' Gerry, are you and Kate.
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Why is Kate McCann lying about speaking to Mrs Fenn, the lady in the apartment above 5a, on the night Madeleine was reported missing ?They both give very clear but very different accounts.......

On page 75 of Kate's book she writes,

Then a lady appeared on a balcony – I’m fairly certain this was about 11pm, before the police arrived – and, in a plummy voice, inquired, ‘Can someone tell me what all the noise is about?’ I explained as clearly as I was able, given the state I wa...

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Why is Kate McCann lying about speaking to Mrs Fenn, the lady in the apartment above 5a, on the night Madeleine was reported missing ?They both give very clear but very different accounts.......
 
On page 75 of Kate's book she writes,

Then a lady appeared on a balcony – I’m fairly certain this was about 11pm, before the police arrived – and, in a plummy voice, inquired, ‘Can someone tell me what all the noise is about?’ I explained as clearly as I was able, given the state I was in, that my little girl had been stolen from her bed, to which she casually responded, ‘Oh, I see,’ almost as if she’d just been told that a can of beans had fallen off a kitchen shelf. I remember feeling both shocked and angry at this woefully inadequate and apparently unconcerned reaction. I recollect that in our outrage, Fiona and I shouted back something rather short and to the point.

Fiona Payne, despite going into a lot of detail about who she had seen and spoken to at that time, didn't even mention it in her statement.

This is what Mrs Fenn, who had no reason to lie, told the police.......

During the day nothing unusual happened, until almost 22.30 when, being alone again, she heard the hysterical shouts from a female person, calling out ?we have let her down? which she repeated several times, quite upset. Mrs Fenn then saw that it was the mother of little Madeleine who was shouting furiously. Upon leaning over the terrace, after having seen the mother, Mrs Fenn asked the father, Gerry, what was happening to which he replied that a small girl had been abducted. When asked, she replied that she did not leave her apartment, just spoke to Gerry from her balcony, which had a view over the terrace of the floor below. She found it strange that Gerry when said that a girl had been abducted, he did not mention that it was his daughter and that he did not mention any other scenarios. At that moment she offered Gerry help, saying that he could use her phone to contact the authorities, to which he replied that this had already been done. It was just after 22.30.

What was the point of lying about this? Was Kate trying to discredit Mrs Fenn, the lady who heard Madeleine crying on the Tuesday night, or was she just lying so she could spew a bit of venom in her book?.
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Hello Ben Thompson here is my latest giving Summers & Swan a piece of my mind http://youtu.be/yHF_4M5YKuA

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Gerry McCann, The Quiz Mistress and Hot Headed Healy.

We have all heard Kate has quite the temper, smashing up beds, hitting walls and a spiteful tongue. We also know that Kate was quite the wild child when she was younger, spent most of her student years binge drinking, which is where she picked up the nickname Hot Lips Healy.

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Gerry McCann, The Quiz Mistress and Hot Headed Healy. 

We have all heard Kate has quite the temper, smashing up beds, hitting walls and a spiteful tongue. We also know that Kate was quite the wild child when she was younger, spent most of her student years binge drinking, which is where she picked up the nickname Hot Lips Healy. 

In an interview Kate McCann described her struggle to control very difficult Madeleine, she explained how she would cry for practically 18 hours a day and that Madeleine would be giving the abductor her tuppence worth. 

Now on the evening of 1st most of the Tapas lot went for dinner as usual. Whilst at the tapas bar Gerry invites the busty quiz mistress to the table, now it would be understandable for Kate to be jealous, I mean Najoua was young, curvy and well.. She has more to look at than Kate! It isn't surprising that an arrogant man like Gerry McCann couldn't help inviting her over, not taking his wife's feelings into consideration. Najoua has said that one of the seats remained empty, so Kate most likely didn't return to the table that evening.

This is all took place around the time Mrs Fenn heard Madeleine crying for an hour and fifteen minutes, around the time phone records placed Kate back at the apartment. Madeleine was heard screaming 'daddy, daddy' and was in hysterics which ended abruptly after the sound of the patio door shutting. Kate would have been feeling annoyed with her husband, jealous and angry. With a bad temper already could Kate contain herself whilst Madeleine is screaming out for Gerry? 

Could Kate have lost her temper in an uncontrollable jealous rage? Was an hour and fifteen minutes of constant crying just too much for this green eyed monster?
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Visions of Grandeur

Gerry McCann had a vision. Nothing specific just lots of lights and a tunnel. It definately wasn't God he said. This vision of light sparked inspiration, he knew what he had to do, he could see the way forward.......

I'm fairly sure he had no such thing, he was being interviewed by a catholic paper at the time. His vision turned out to be mostly how this 'disaster' could work out in his favour, coming up smelling of roses, with fame and fortune in tow.

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Visions of Grandeur

Gerry McCann had a vision. Nothing specific just lots of lights and a tunnel. It definately wasn't God he said, This vision of light sparked inspiration, he knew what he had to do, he could see the way forward.......

I'm fairly sure he had no such thing, he was being interviewed by a catholic paper at the time. His vision turned out to be mostly how this 'disaster' could work out in his favour, coming up smelling of roses, with fame and fortune in tow.

You see the vision was only a couple of days after Madeleine was reported missing, most people would be an absolute wreck, but Gerry had some divine intervention and promptly embarked on his European mission, Jack of all trades master of none.

Gerry suddenly became an expert on basically whatever he liked, child trafficking, child abuse, abductions, politics etc. Not bad for a doctor who couldn't, by his own admission, take care of his children properly. 

It all kicks off with a visit to the Vatican, cue much excitement from Gerry and Kate..... 

"rome is already preparing itself" Kate McCann

"It is likely we will be seated in the front row" Gerry McCann 

This was fantastic news for the devout catholic Gerry, what an up lifting event. So surely they took the twins, bless the whole family, right?
Wrong. Gerry took the press, on Brian Kennedy's private jet. 26 days after Madeleine vanished he wants us to believe it was acceptable to be sitting in luxury expecting to be treat like royalty in Rome and photographed at every opportunity. Nobody thought Madeleine was at the Vatican. His utter delight in his blog at what he describes as 'almost instant recognition' from the Pope really said it all. Time to take the catholic hat off. After Rome Gerry suddenly becomes an expert on child welfare......

Starting in Madrid,  he gets  involved in child welfare issues all over the world. He hasn't got a clue about child welfare, who was listening to him? He admitted  to neglecting his his own children now he's being met at airports by embassy and government officials, Morocco, Spain, Germany, Holland, Belgium, England What a guy, he even manages to fit the odd appeal in for Madeleine. The beautiful little girl, missing less than a month.

This was just the start the White house, 10 downing street, Oprah, fund raisers with the rich and famous, only the A list were good enough for Gerry. He was somebody now, but what a price to pay.

Meanwhile, as he's living the narcissists dream, the kind and poor are buying wristbands and posters from his online store, boosting those funds, 5* hotels don't come cheap. Kate wasn't always at his side either,  somebody had to stay home and keep up the 'woe is me' act from time to time, but when she did, the twins stayed home and were dumped in the creche. Did they forget they told the world there was a child snatcher on the loose round there ?

For me though the most vomit inducing trip of no relevance 
was to the police bravery awards. A standing ovation for Gerry ...what ?? A guest of honour....is somebody having a joke?? No this actually happened. There's nothing brave about losing your child, starting a company in her name and globe trotting like you're very important. That's not brave, it's a disgrace, he only spent an hour looking for his daughter! What were these people actually clapping at, surely not this excuse of a Father.

He even tried his hand with a bit of politics, The leveson enquiry needed him. There were plenty of people involved in hacked off who had actually been hacked, they must've needed another perspective. Gerry's. Gerry wasn't so much hacked off as ticked off. Papers had dared to speculate when he was a suspect in Madeleines disappearance, obviously anything he didn't like was promptly sued bumping up the funds, the celebrity life is a costly thing after all. So Gerry McCann was involved in how the press are regulated, jumping on the band wagon of a genuine, desperately sad, child abduction. Truely shocking when you think of some of the trashy headlines the McCanns have sold through choice.

Gerry, how can you sit in 5* luxury paid for by your daughters fund and expect anyone to believe you are looking for her ? You don't deserve to be put on a celebrity pedestal. You're simply a man who one way or another is responsible for the loss of a beautiful little girl.Madeleine.
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I'm new to this group and apologise if I'm asking questions already asked but.... If Kate and Gerry really had something to do with this I can't understand why they still want it kept in the public eye? .... Why is it still in the public because there's plenty of children that go missing that you never hear about..... Is it not neglect to leave your children alone whilst you piss of out for the night?..., if you knew your child was crying, sobbing because they woke up and you wasn't there why would you do it again the next night? ..... Didn't they give the children something to "help" them sleep? I just don't understand any part if this story/tragedy

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Ben Thompson updated the group photo in Justice For Madeleine.
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You think.................Special report to be aired on Sky News at 8:30. Freeview ch82
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So many UK agencies got involved in the hunt for the missing girl it damaged relations with Portuguese police, Sky News learns.
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For those of you that can't see this excellent post by Natalie, here it is again:

Blood Money

" he, deserves to be miserable and feel fear" Kate McCann 

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For those of you that can't see this excellent post by Natalie, here it is again:

Blood Money

" he, deserves to be miserable and feel fear"  Kate McCann 

She's not talking about the abductor, Kate doesn't feel that much hatred for the mythical child snatcher, in fact she forgives him. She can't forgive Goncalo Amaral though, while she's selling trashy headlines about forgiving the unforgivable, she's writing in her book about revenge. 

Why would she have it in her heart to forgive someone who stole her child yet despise the man who tried to find her?

The continuing case against Goncalo Amaral is not just a financial matter for Kate, it's a personal one, she's made that quite clear, yet all Goncalo Amaral did was do his job and write a book about it. Kate doesn't hate him because he harmed the search for her daughter, she hates him because he knows the truth. She's not even disputing what he knows, that isn't what this case is about, she failed at silencing him so she's gone in for the kill. She's attacking him, his character, his reputation and of course his bank account. 

They waited a year after the publication of Amarals very damning book before taking legal action. Enough time for it to make money and for them to feel the full devastating impact of his words. Kate's plan to ruin Snr Amaral was long term and set out in phases. Phase 1 was to silence him, phase 2 to destroy him. It's been going on for 5 years so far, that's a long time to be on the receiving end of Kate's wrath.  She has thrown everything she can at him, from trying to bring criminal proceedings against him when he made an application for financial assistance, to defending a convicted child murderer in her book, simply because he was in charge of the case. There are no lows she won't sink to in her attempts to blacken his name. 

She writes about him with such venom as if everything is his fault. There's only a tiny mention that the man who took over the case from Amaral, Paulo Rebelo, doesn't believe their fairytale either. She isn't so incensed by him, but he was only the person trying to find Madeleine, who cares what he thinks. 

The problem Kate has is Mr Amaral isn't giving up. He behaves with dignity and class while she stands outside court spitting feathers. She underestimated the might of the man, and I think she's come unstuck this time. All her loathing has achieved so far is years of publicity for The Truth of The Lie. 

Kate doesn't want this money out of greed, it's pure spite. She wants to destroy Goncalo Amaral and make him suffer, she wants his money and his blood.

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So, as Police searching for Madeleine poise themselves for another search, her Parents apparently will not be travelling 😕

So, as Police searching for Madeleine poise themselves for another search, her Parents apparently will not be travelling 󾰕
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Found a very interesting article written by a criminal profiler.http://www.mccannfiles.com/id191.html

Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCannProfile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCannProfile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCannMadeleine
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"where were you when me and Sean cried"

A question that would sadden any loving parent. A normal parent wouldn't ignore a 3yr olds cries in the night, imagine the guilt you would feel if you had simply not woken, let alone not even being there. Did Madeleine McCann really say this to Kate over breakfast the day she was reported missing ? I'm not convinced Madeleine was even alive at this point so I'm doubtful.

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"where were you when me and Sean cried"

A question that would sadden any loving parent. A normal parent wouldn't ignore a 3yr olds cries in the night, imagine the guilt you would feel if you had simply not woken, let alone not even being there. Did Madeleine McCann really say this to Kate over breakfast the day she was reported missing ? I'm not convinced Madeleine was even alive at this point so I'm doubtful. 

Either way though Kate is lying about it being a passing remark that wouldn't have entered her head again if what happened hadn't happened.

So why would she make it up?

Well it would place Madeleine in the apartment alive and well at that time. Maybe Kate knew of Mrs Fenn's damning statement and simply got her days mixed up, perhaps she wanted to play down what Mrs Fenn heard. Or was it to add weight to the abduction theory as Kate claims the 'abductor' might have had a practice attempt the previous night, as is so common in child abductions. I don't think Kate ever thought that one through, surely Madeleine wouldn't have asked where they were, but who the Dickens was that in my bedroom last night? and it's highly unlikely a child who'd been disturbed by a stranger would have quietly settled back down. 
This one detail that Kate and Gerry have spoken of so often exposes so many untruths and contradictions I bet they wish they'ed never brought it up. Some untruths I've come accross.....

1, Kate McCann said this " if Madeleine hadn't been abducted we'd never have thought of this comment again " According to statements by Fiona, Rachel and Jayne, Kate discussed it that very evening and shared with them her concerns,p which isn't quite fitting with that statement. Infact each of them go into detail about the conversation and Kate's worries. 

2, In an interview Gerry stated they didn't know if they would get into the tapas bar that night, but Rachel had booked the table on the Monday for the rest of the week, so why wouldn't they get in?

3, In the same interview Kate said they had talked of going to the millennium restaurant that night, as they had done on the first night. She said they decided not to as it was a long walk and they had no buggy for the twins. Yet the day before they took the children to the beach, the twins in a buggy.

4, We've all heard them say how safe it felt leaving the children, and how Madeleine didn't wake through the night and definately wouldn't wander off. So how can Kate explain asking her friends their opinion of them leaving the door unlocked incase Madeleine woke up so she could go and find them!

The fact that this story contradicts so many other things leaves no other conclusion than they lie, a lot. So like many things they say I choose not to believe it and for any one that does there's only one question ......

How could they?
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Ben Thompson shared a photo to the group Justice For Madeleine.
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Just found this courtesy of Kerstin Kus via The Madeleine McCann Controversy, clearly showing the photograph of Gerry beside the pool with Madeleine was photoshopped.

The proof Last Photo is bogus. On K's bedside table: Where are the elbows???

The proof Last Photo is bogus. On K's bedside table: Where are the elbows???

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David Payne according to reports was the last person outside of the family to have seen Madeleine alive.

Apparently David Payne was asked by Gerry McCann to check on Kate but he also said he was just visiting, he was there to help take the children to the recreation area and another reason was to see if it was ok for Gerry to continue playing tennis. He claimed he entered the apartment through the patio doors that were already open. He stood in the apartment for around 3-5 mi...

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David Payne according to reports was the last person outside of the family to have seen Madeleine alive.

Apparently David Payne was asked by Gerry McCann to check on Kate but he also said he was just visiting, he was there to help take the children to the recreation area and another reason was to see if it was ok for Gerry to continue playing tennis. He claimed he entered the apartment through the patio doors that were already open. He stood in the apartment for around 3-5 minutes and claimed he saw the children, all looking very well groomed, healthy and happy after Kate had got them ready for bed. He doesn’t remember exactly what Kate was wearing but says she was fully dressed, he thinks the children were wearing white bed clothes, he entered the apartment around 5pm but later changed that to 6:30pm and a source close to the family claims he saw Kate put the children to bed.

Kate’s version is different to David’s though, she claims he never actually entered the apartment, she also said that she heard knocking whilst she was in the shower so she grabbed a towel and David was waiting at the door. According to David Kate was fully dressed. She doesn’t mention him seeing the children and claims that he was only there for no more than 30 seconds. According to Gerry David was there for around 30 minutes, to deepen the mystery further, Fiona Payne attests she accompanied her husband to their friends’ apartment and the couple, both Kate and Gerry, were at home. Mrs Fenn the upstairs neighbour says she saw David on the balcony of the McCann’s apartment at 7:00pm. 

Now my first thoughts on this was either a) David was needed to ‘confirm’ Madeleine was alive on the evening of her disappearance, being a doctor makes it a little more credible if it wasn’t for him being such a creep or b) the reasons there are so many inconsistencies with this meeting is because something went on during the time David was there. I am more of the opinion David was needed to confirm Madeleine was alive though, a doctor friend, that couldn’t be more perfect really but then we had the Gaspar statements that really changes our opinion of this Doctor friend, not as reliable as we first thought. David Payne the paedophile was the last non family member to see Madeleine alive doesn’t look as good does it? Now I doubt very much Kate, Gerry or any of the dodgy tapas lot could have predicted this coming to light, after reading Katerina’s statement over and over it really doesn’t seem like anyone other than her husband knew she heard the conversation between David and Gerry in which, David talks about Madeleine circling her nipples and sucking her finger. He was also recognized by Child Protection Worker Yvonne Martin and despite his claims of being the last non family member to see Madeleine alive he has never attended a reconstruction or Crime Watch.
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Leanne R Baulch shared a photo to the group Justice For Madeleine.
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An amazing post from The McCann Scandal please give the post and group a like and share with all of your friends.

LET'S BE HONEST ABOUT THE McCANNS

Is it wrong to criticise Kate and Gerry McCann? How do you feel about them? Are you reluctant to voice your opinion? Is it right to be called troll or a hater for doing so?

By their own admission they left their three children, all under the age of four, alone and defenceless in an unlocked apartment for five consecutive nights of their holiday to enjoy wine and tapas with their friends a 120 metre walk away.

Not only did they leave their children vulnerable to strangers entering the apartment - they could vomit, choke, get out of bed and fall on the hard tiled floors, wander into the kitchen and injure themselves or wander out of the apartment altogether. The list of potential dangers is endless.

Yet the McCanns insist that they thought it was safe. Gerry said that they sought legal advice afterwards and had been assured that what they did was "well within the bounds of reasonable parenting".

Does it sound like reasonable parenting to you? It is appalling child neglect in most people's books. Selfish, irresponsible and cold-hearted.

Ordinary people are shocked and horrified that these people could neglect their children in this way. Even more baffling is the fact that they've never been prosecuted for it, are apparently above criticism and should be forgiven without question.

The Prime Minister himself was duly criticised for accidentally leaving his daughter in a pub on one occasion, a genuine mistake/mix-up by all accounts and a far cry from the McCanns wilfully abandoning their tiny children night after night.

So how do they get away with it? Why do people in the media like Kay Burley of Sky News and Lorraine Kelly go out of their way to condone this shocking and selfish behaviour? Do they really think it's ok to expose children to potentially fatal dangers for the sake of a night out?

When we share our horror and disbelief at the selfishness of these parents, we are branded cruel, heartless trolls and haters by journalists and celebrity chums of the pair like Burley and Kelly. Not to mention the vitriolic attacks from the small but vocal pro McCann online lobby. The Official Find Madeleine Facebook page explicitly states that they don't want to hear from the "perfect parent brigade".

"Haven't they suffered enough?", they say. That's debatable and ultimately irrelevant. If their story were to be believed, their daughter paid the highest price for this "mistake"

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Child neglect is far from the only thing they appear to be guilty of. For instance, while residents and holidaymakers in Luz were busy searching for Madeleine through the night, Kate and Gerry were holed up in their apartment, on the phone to friends, family and Sky News and, bizarrely, deleting text messages and call records before the police arrived.

While people took time off work to search for their daughter, the couple went jogging, played tennis, arranged photo opportunities and left their twins behind to trot across Europe - and in Gerry's case, Washington DC - publicising their campaign.

Kate McCann later refused to answer 48 questions put to her by the Portuguese police, just a couple of days before fleeing the country. Despite vowing not to return to the UK without Madeleine, they were home within 72 hours of being declared suspects and refused to cooperate wth the investigation and to date, as far as we know, have never been interviewed by police since September 2007.

When Portuguese police decided to archive the investigation due to the lack of cooperation of the McCanns and their holiday friends, they had the opportunity to appeal against the decision..... But they didn't. They could have had the investigation reopened at any time by writing to the Portuguese Attorney General and volunteering to take part in a police reconstruction of the evening's events..... But they didn't.

Does this sound like a couple who would leave no stone unturned in the search for their missing daughter?

Have they really "campaigned tirelessly" to find out what happened to her?

Why have they repeatedly insisted that Madeleine is alive and "findable" despite the trail going cold almost as soon as the alarm was raised seven years ago and no trace whatsoever of her ever since? Without a scrap of evidence, they've done everything they can to widen the 'search' for Madeleine as far away from Praia da Luz as possible, all the more questionable now that the search is right back where it left off - looking for evidence of a dead body somewhere on the Algarve.

Had they been as willing to talk to the police as they are to talk to breakfast TV hosts, the mystery may well have been solved by now. From the very start they have used the media to generate publicity for their campaign and to sow seeds of doubt regarding Portugese police via thier extended family and their PR man, Clarence Mitchell.
Despite claiming to have felt "mentally raped" by the News of the World's publication of her diary, Kate McCann was happy to take at least £1/2 million from the same newspaper group for the serialisation of her book. One of the most crass front pages of the entire decade must surely be the full front page spread in The Sun of Kate and Gerry with the headline, "I COULDN'T MAKE LOVE TO GERRY". How on Earth did she think this would help the search for Madeleine?

Kate McCann described her book as "an account of the truth", written for her children, Madeleine and the twins. Why then did she see fit to include details of the couple's sex life? That's not all. Perhaps the most horrifying passage of the entire book is where Kate shares her thoughts of Madeleine's "PERFECT LITTLE GENITALS TORN APART" (found on pg 129 of the hardback edition).

Is this woman for real? What was she thinking? Did she consider how her children and the rest of her family may feel reading this? Why didn't Gerry stop her? Have they no respect for their daughter's memory?

There is much else besides this that makes the man on the street feel decidedly uncomfortable about the whole affair. People instinctively feel there's something "not right" about it all and it's high time we were able to call a a spade a spade regarding this ghastly duo without being branded haters and trolls.

They are guilty of appalling child neglect AT THE VERY LEAST and should be held to account and made to explain the circumstances of their daughter's disappearance and - given the multi million pound police enquiries taking place in both the UK and Portugal - made to stop taking donations from kindly members of the public for their non- existent search.

Enough's enough.
 
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PART 1 - part 2, 3 and 4 posted in comments.

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On the 1st November 2007 Gerry McCann returned to work at the Glenfield Hospital in Leicester. On his way into work he gave this brief statement to the press:

"We have always said that at six months we didn't want to look back and say 'I wish we had done that and wish we had done this'.
"But now we feel we have done everything we can do to establish the search for Madeleine on an ongoing basis and we feel we have the proper infrastructure now in place to find her." before add...

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On the 1st November 2007 Gerry McCann returned to work at the Glenfield Hospital in Leicester. On his way into work he gave this brief statement to the press:

"We have always said that at six months we didn't want to look back and say 'I wish we had done that and wish we had done this'.
"But now we feel we have done everything we can do to establish the search for Madeleine on an ongoing basis and we feel we have the proper infrastructure now in place to find her." before adding that he wanted to
"get back a degree of normality with a working routine"

Does it strike you as odd that Gerry didn't talk of his disappointment at not finding Madeleine after 6 months? It shouldn't considering Gerry announced as early as June 3rd 2007 that the gruesome twosome had been mulling over ideas for an anniversary bash to drum up money for the fund in the form of a sporting event, or concert:

“It wouldn't be a one-year anniversary, it will be sooner than that. What we're doing at the minute has its role but doing that down the line in a few months won't have anything like the same impact. We might have a sporting event, something arts, something music."

Gerry knew full well Madeleine wouldn't be coming back, as did Clarence "I sleep in a crooked bed" Mitchell, who left his £75,000 a year job with the Government, to work for the McCanns for a similar figure, despite having a family to support. Another one to do the same was Gerry's equally irksome brother, John McCann, who also left a well paid job to take up a place on the board of directors for the Find Madeleine Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned Ltd.

Gerry also knew that returning to work had nothing to do with him feeling he had done all he could, and had put together a masterplan to get his daughter home.

So why did Gerry return to work? The answer to that is simple, firstly ask yourself what the most important things are to you if you're a McCann.
Forget self preservation, and playing the victim, I'm talking about the one thing the McCanns can't get enough of...........CASH, cold hard dirty cash.

After six years of service NHS staff are entitled to a period of six months sick pay on full salary, after which they can either take another six months absence on half salary, or go back to work under the rehabilitation to work scheme. This scheme allows the employee to return to work doing part time hours, and if necessary, a change of duties can be negotiated. All this is agreed between the employee and his manager, and then actioned by the human resources team.

Luckily for Gerry his manager Doug Skehan, was very sympathetic to the cause. How do we know he was sympathetic? Well given that he was also a Director of the fund, I find it impossible to believe that he wouldn't have done all he could to grease the wheels for Gerry, and assist him to claim his full salary of £75,000 a year under the rules of the scheme, after all he will have known about the corrupt couple using the fund to make mortgage payments.

In line with the rehabilitation scheme, Gerry's work was a step away from his usual duties, his contact with patients was limited, and he didn't return to full time work until January the following year, almost 3 months after he first returned. Which would have been around the time he would have been due a review.

But why would old flathead let reality get in the way of a good story? The reality that he didn't actually return to work having done all he could, the reality that he knew darn tootin Madeleine wouldn't be coming home, and the reality that he returned to work for money, not to regain a sense of normality. Reports in the press claimed the McCanns didn't earn a penny during the six months Gerry wasn't working. I beg to differ. Gerry didn't put anything in place to find Madeleine, he put into place a plan, a plan to save his and his vile wifes neck, a plan to keep the cash rolling in, and a plan to con the public into parting with both their money and their pity.
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No stone unturned. 25 reasons not to give Kate and Gerry your money.

1, It is not a fund or a charity it is a LTD company.
2, The company was registered only 11 days after Madeleine disappeared.
3, Meetings with lawyers to start the fund were held only days after Madeleines disappearance....

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No stone unturned. 25 reasons not to give Kate and Gerry your money.

1, It is not a fund or a charity it is a LTD company.
2, The company was registered only 11 days after Madeleine disappeared.
3, Meetings with lawyers to start the fund were held only days after Madeleines disappearance.
4, They applied for charitable status on the 14th of May 2007.
5, The application was withdrawn by them on the 15th of may. It was registered with company house the same day.
6, The board of directors are made up of Kate and Gerry and members of their family and friends.
7, It has mostly been spent on Lawyers including an extradition lawyer, libel lawyers and criminal defence lawyers.
8, Kate and Gerry made mortgage payments from the fund.
9, Gerry used the fund to stay in a 5* hotel.
10, They spent £100, 000 having the Portuguese police files translated.
11,  Kate promised the accounts would be run to the highest standards of transparency.
12, The accounts are not transparent.
13, Flights and accommodation for witnesses in the court case against Amaral were paid for by the fund.
14, Clarence Mitchell's salary is paid by the company.
15, They are not funding any search for Madeleine but they are still taking donations.
16, If you want a poster to help search for Madeleine you have to buy it from their online store.
17, You can also buy wristbands, t-shirts and holiday packs from their online store.
18, Kate and Gerry are legally entitled to use the company money for themselves.
19, If they use their home as an office they can pay themselves rent from the company.
20, Private detectives paid by public donations provided efits of suspects. The efits were surpressed for 5 years.
21, Irish TV station TV3 raised almost EUR25,000 and refused to hand it over when they discovered it wasn't a charity. Kate an Gerry were furious.
22,  Gerry's brother John McCann quit his job to work for the company. He must have been getting paid by someone.
23, The company paid image consultants Lift Consulting to improve public perception at a cost of about £200 per hour. Lift Consulting won an award for the campaign.
24, From the accounts it appears that one of the directors took a loan from the company.
25, The company states one of its objectives is to provide support, including financial assistance to Madeleine's family. This could include ANY blood relations.

Anyone want to donate?
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195 leads for Scotland Yard in McCann investigation.

Copied and pasted from - http://lhro.wordpress.com/…/195-leads-for-scotland-yard-in…/

After a careful review of all the evidence from the Portuguese police files – 195 Leads

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It's not what you know..........

We all know the McCanns lie, there are examples of their deceit everywhere on this page, and others, but one important area we haven't covered in detail yet, is the impact one of the people that Kate lied to had upon, not only public opinion, but also could potentially have been their first link to what has become a highly suspicious, and unprecedented level of high profile figures within the Government being involved from day one.

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It's not what you know..........

We all know the McCanns lie, there are examples of their deceit everywhere on this page, and others, but one important area we haven't covered in detail yet, is the impact one of the people that Kate lied to had upon, not only public opinion, but also could potentially have been their first link to what has become a highly suspicious, and unprecedented level of high profile figures within the Government being involved from day one.

Jill Renwick is a long standing friend of Kate McCanns, both Kate and Gerry worked with Jill at Glasgow hospital in the 90's. Jill was one of the friends Kate phoned during the early hours of the 4th May 2007, and possibly the most influential. It was through Jill that the lie about an "abductor" gaining entry to apartment 5a having smashed the shutters, manifested across the nation within hours of the parents reporting Madeleine missing. This fabricated story was remember, concocted by Kate and Gerry who sat indoors, whilst scores of volunteers searched throughout the night for a missing 3 year old girl they had never met.
In an article for the Guardian by Esther Addley on June 2nd 2007, Jill Renwick discusses her conversation with Kate:

"She just said, 'Help me, please help me'. She said, 'We've been searching all night until 4.30am, and then everybody left us'. At that stage there was only one police officer at the door. They didn't know what to do. So I phoned GMTV."

First line, and it's a lie, Kate did NOT physically search, and Gerry managed an hour, but that's by the by. Good old Jill phoned GMTV, surely GMTV would check that the information Jill gave them was correct, precise, and accurate? Not a hope, what they did was to fail Madeleine, whilst at the same time, helping the McCanns plant the abduction seed. Jill provided more lies to 6.1 million UK viewers:

"They were just watching the hotel room and going back every half-hour."

"Poor Kate and Gerry don't know where to turn. She's obviously been taken as she couldn't have gone out on her own and the shutters had been forced open. The shutters had been broken open and they've gone into the room and taken her."

BANG! In one fell swoop we have 6.1 million people being told A, that there was opportunity for an abduction, and B, that there had been a forced entry. Total and utter nonsense, we now know, as did the McCanns, that there was NO forced entry, but there it was, out in the public arena. Support began to gather pace, think about it, of those 6.1 million viewers, how many of them went into work that week, spoke to friends and told them; "hey did you hear on the news today? An intruder broke into an apartment in Portugal and snatched a little girl" The lie grew legs, multiplied, the press reported it as fact, and before the week was out the Mcanns had a nation behind them, in fact they had so much support based upon lies that when the Official Find Madeleine website was set up on the 10th May 2007 it received 75 million hits in the first 48 hours, and all due to one phone call. Pretty impressive stuff eh, but that's the way the media work. Being the first with the stories is more important than being the first with the facts. As we know facts are something that the Official Find Madeleine website is seriously lacking in.

So the McCanns owe their friend Jill a huge debt of thanks, but her influence on this case didn't stop there, far from it.

The high level of support isn't as much of a mystery as people think. Renwick, more than likely with perfectly good intentions, and without knowing she was being used as a pawn in the McCann's scheme rallied more support, in the form of Gordon Brown. Jill lived on the same street as Gordon's brother, John Brown. The following quote could explain just how the future Prime Minister came to be so involved:

"I stopped him in the street the day afterwards and said, 'These are my friends. Do you think you could speak to Gordon about it?' And he said of course."

I'm still not done, Renwicks sister called a friend she had in CID, and another contact was made, the former Defence Secretary, Des Browne.
Can you see how this charade snowballed? Two lies, made by Kate McCann, convinced a nation of their innocence within the space of three media frenzied days, and these bastards had a nerve to sue others!
So whilst we're all considering theories as to why the McCanns have got away with so much, and the pros bleat like sheep claiming "the McCanns were just an ordinary couple like any other who didn't have friends in high places", let's not forget that they only needed one friend, Jill Renwick. As the old saying goes:

"It's not what you know..........."
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Goncalo Amaral - Fired, Sacked, Kicked-off, Booted etc.

A list of shocking examples of tabloid headlines used to discredit Goncalo Amaral

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t523-goncalo-amaral-fired-…

Posted by Winnower on 3/01/2010 Labels: British Press, COVER-UPS, disinformation, Goncalo Amaral In keeping with the excellent *balanced* reporting the media
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A Rogatory Review

Smoke and mirrors, muddied waters... there's always been speculation that things have been deliberately confused from day one. From the shutters and locks to the timeline. One thing that irritates me is the fact that all of the group's children were left alone to fend for themselves. If it really happened that way - that's what we're expected to believe. So why have the rest of the Tapas group been let off the hook? The only reason that the McCanns have take...

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The griefstricken parent just 6 days after his daughter was snatched by a paedophile [he would have us believe ]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VlS-gO5Ask&sns=fb

Video taken a couple of days (6) after the disappearance of his daughter
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We’re always going to get people who claim the evidence doesn’t support the dog’s findings. I believe the expertise of the dogs and their reliability goes without question. I can’t see any other explanation other than both dogs finding exactly what they were trained to find, evidence of human remains, detected in only one vehicle out of a number of vehicles screened, just like the apartments and of course the clothing. We know dogs can be trained to be either scent discrimina...

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We’re always going to get people who claim the evidence doesn’t support the dog’s findings. I believe the expertise of the dogs and their reliability goes without question. I can’t see any other explanation other than both dogs finding exactly what they were trained to find, evidence of human remains, detected in only one vehicle out of a number of vehicles screened, just like the apartments and of course the clothing. We know dogs can be trained to be either scent discriminating or non-scent discriminating. Cadaver dogs are a good example of scent discrimination dogs and get their name because they find and alert to cadavers (human bodies or remains), not because they detect cadaverine, which by the way is created by many other things including plants. Cadaverine and putrescence are just two of 478 known volatile chemical compounds resulting from human decomposition and the combination the dogs detect still eludes us mere mortals. - Think of a cake, we smell the baked product, whereas a dog’s nose can filter out those smells and detect every single ingredient. It can be trained to alert to just one ingredient or even the delicious smell of the finished product and amazingly remembers the scent signature. Yet if you want to train a dog to find those cakes it would be no use teaching the dog to find and alert to just eggs, even though they are a known ingredient in cakes, because eggs are common in too many other products. A cadaver dog that only alerts to one ingredient isn’t going to be much use to anyone. Eddie was an Enhanced scent discriminating dog, scent specific in that he was trained to locate the unique scent signature created by humans, not animals, not food or anything else. 

I think we’ve been a bit bewildered at times by the excuses we’ve heard over the last few years designed to discredit the dog’s findings. We’ve been treated to some cracking stories too, from the dogs simply not being reliable and their evidence not being allowed in court to the scent source being a fish. No kidding I can even remember heated discussions about pork chops being responsible for the source of the scent, almost as absurd as sea bass. If you saw a sea bass, would you confuse it with a human body? No of course you wouldn’t and neither would a scent discriminating dog’s nose …. Why, because the scent signature of putrefying fish is not the same as a decomposing human being. As for pork or any other food products, simply a no no when it came to that particular dog. The original excuse given by family members was that someone set the McCann’s up by planting the evidence. I don’t really know how this could be achieved using actual contaminate. Not many people have decomposing bodies they can call on and even if they did gathering and collecting the materials needed would be difficult and extremely risky given the nature of the compounds. It would have had to have been a virtual complete contaminant free exercise done with full knowledge that just about everything risked being cross contaminated, by that I mean everything that came close to or came into contact with any object or places where the scent was planted. So for instance if you did manage to plant some on someone’s trousers, then the risk would be those trousers cross contaminating every chair or piece of furniture they came into contact with, and that piece of furniture then contaminating someone else’s trousers when they sat down, etc. etc. Of course it wouldn’t go on to cross contaminate forever, but planting anything on all those items and in all those locations would have posed this risk. I dismissed this theory more or less outright though because I don’t believe that anyone would have attempted this and I’ve never heard of anyone even trying to. Psuedo scent, well again a no no, this dog was even trained to ignore that…… And the pièce de résistance, Dr Healy coming into contact with 6 dead bodies no less through work, unfecking believable !
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The Daily Mail, you're in danger of going up in our estimations!!

The Daily Mail, you're in danger of going up in our estimations!!
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Leanne R Baulch shared a photo to the group Justice For Madeleine.
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Was Cuddle Cat Madeleine's special comforter. If it was, how could Kate have washed it? Unless she had good reason to, and what could that be? 

My daughter used a blanket as a comforter and Madeleine had a pink blanket too, where did that go? 

David James Smith, Timesonline, Dec 2007: Gerry paused over Madeleine, who – a typical doctor’s observation, this – was lying almost in "the recovery position" with Cuddle Cat, the toy her godfather, John Corner, had bought her, and her comfort blanket up near her head, and Gerry thought how gorgeous, how lovely-looking she was and how lucky he was.
 
Kate August 2007: I was desperately hoping that Madeleine would be back before the cat got washed. In the end Cuddle Cat smelt of suntan lotion and everything. I forgot what colour it was. It was special to Madeleine, she took it to bed every night. If she was upset or tired she had Cuddle Cat. It was special to her so it's special to me.

Jon Corner, a godfather of one of the McCanns’ children, said: The Cuddle Cat was reeking with Madeleine’s DNA. That easily explains why DNA has been found in the hire car and on clothing that Kate bought after Madeleine disappeared.

Andrew Pierce, the Telegraph, Sept 2007: And then there is the almost pitiful sight of Mrs McCann clutching Madeleine's favourite cuddly toy. Was I alone in wondering whether that was for comfort or because it was what the PR advisers suggested?

Was Cuddle Cat Madeleine's special comforter. If it was, how could Kate have washed it? Unless she had good reason to, and what could that be?

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Thank you for adding me, Ben Thompson. Hope this gets heaps more members ...

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I love this group! Just goes to show it wasnt just "me" thinking that K&G were guilty from start! I read sooooo much on this the past 3 years! And they are 100% guilty......and need locking up......the more people know about this the better! Keep spreading the word everyone  X

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Thanks for the add Ben Thompson... again 

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