7. Why are your members disallowed from having a proper dogs debate?

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Rank：Diamond Member Score：2851 Posts：2851 From：USA Register：26/01/2013 4:34 PM	Date Posted：13/02/2015 11:03 PMCopy HTML 7. Why are your members disallowed from having a proper dogs debate? Disallowed? I believe you have that wrong.... Members of HDH (not Debate) that use HDH for their agenda to disrupt and DISCREDIT the dogs are not given the privilege of posting on tho threads. Everyone else is welcome to post their thoughts and opinons. There are several members that I have contacted privately and asked them to refrain from posting on the 'dogs' threads in HDH because of the disruption. One poster took great delight in establishing a thread of 500 posts... I do not choose to subject the VALUABLE members to that kind of disruption. 'Dogs' threads are always acceptable for member that choose to post respectfully. We are not here to discuss WHETHER the files are credible. It is a POLICE FORCE INVESTIGATION and the findings should be treated with respect. However, our DEBATE GROUP had many dog's thereads and one of over 700 posts can be seen here...BEFORE any removals. http://forum4.aimoo.com/madeleinemccanncontroversy/HiDeHo-48-Questions/CONTROVERSY-Dog-DEBATE-Pro-and-Anti-1-2303668.html Cass/Kate Holt Why would you ask that question when you have freely entered into the DOG DEBATES that WERE allowed!
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Rank：Diamond Member Score：2851 Posts：2851 From：USA Register：26/01/2013 4:34 PM	Re：7. Why are your members disallowed from having a proper dogs debate? Date Posted：14/02/2015 3:47 PMCopy HTML ONE OF THE DOG'S THREADS WE APPARENTLY DON'T ALLOW! Gwen started the thread it and Cass/Kate Holt contributed! (Lots more also) A great example of what a DEBATE GROUP is all about. EVERY opinion is allowed! https://www.facebook.com/groups/HiDeHoDebateDiscussions/permalink/281305088707372/ Diane Winch May 23, 2014 The cellular material recovered on the swab from the car yielded a LCN DNA result which contained not 19 markers, but 37, and indicated a mixed sample from at least three individuals, possibly more. Of those 37 markers, 15 corresponded with markers which matched Madeleine's markers - but this is completely meaningless. If two of the contributors to the mixed sample were her parents - not unlikely given that they were the ones using the car - then it is hardly unexpected that many of the markers in the sample would match markers Madeleine was known to possess, given that she inherited them all from her parents. While this result cannot RULE OUT the presence of Madeleine in the car, it absolutely DOES NOT prove that she was present. Like · <input class="uiLinkButtonInput" data-ft="{"type":24,"tn":"S"}" type="button" value="Comment" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; border: none; color: rgb(109, 132, 180); cursor: pointer; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-size: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;"> · Share 5 people like this. Lesley-ann Shand It is my belief than dna markers are unique, so my daughters markers would not be the same as mine.. even though related ?? May 23, 2014 at 6:40am · Like Diane Winch You dont understand the above proof about the DNA May 23, 2014 at 6:47am · Like · 2 Jacqui Kendall im waiting for a friend who works with DNA ill post facts when ive spoken to her as i dont no much about DNA myself May 23, 2014 at 7:11am · Like · 1 Jason Mills Which area of the car did the swab come from Diane? May 23, 2014 at 7:13am · Like · 1 Diane Winch From the boot May 23, 2014 at 7:15am · Like Stella Mcnaught Jacqui Kendall Williamson i think Lorraine McNaught Holdens post dealt very well with the D.N.A issues last night,so if i were you i wouldn't bother rising to the bait,obviously has nothing better to do better to do with her time than to goad folks!! May 23, 2014 at 7:24am · Like · 2 Jason Mills From the boot!!! Now while I'm no expert with regards to all of the above markers etc that you mentioned in your post above,and while I don't hail from a family akin to csi experts,I have to say that if these markers/DNA were found in the boot,that's proof to me that Madeleine was indeed present in the boot of that hire car!! Why would a child be in the boot of the car? The very car that Kate and Gerry took on a 3 day trip and the very car that was hired 21 days after Madeleine went missing! Now as I said,I'm no expert but it was the experts that found traces of Madeleine's DNA in the boot. That is undeniable. May 23, 2014 at 7:25am · Edited · Like · 5 Gillian Smith thats why they wernt arrested,the DNA could have come from items that had been put in boot May 23, 2014 at 7:29am · Like · 1 Gwen James DNA markers are not unique the sequence is. May 23, 2014 at 7:30am · Like · 3 Diane Winch All these concerns have led some countries to approach the use of low-copy-number analysis with caution. In 2001, the FBI recommended that it be used only in certain circumstances in the United States, such as for identifying the bones of someone suspected of being a missing person. Its use has been controversial in Britain, too. Sean Hoey was accused of killing 29 people in an explosion that destroyed the town centre of Omagh in Northern Ireland in 1998. Central to the case against him was a low-copy-number analysis of DNA left on bomb parts connected to the attack. Hoey was freed on appeal in 2007. May 23, 2014 at 7:31am · Like Jason Mills Again I'm no expert on "low copy number DNA" but to me,having the slightest hint of DNA linked to Madeleine in the boot area of the car,whether it's "low copy" or not, proves that she was there! Why se would any trace no matter how small be there? And of all areas of the car,in the boot? If the swab for DNA had been taken from one of the seats then we wouldn't be having this debate right here. But again the fact is that Madeleine's DNA was found in an area of a vehicle where you would not normally expect to carry a child or indeed any passenger for that matter. May 24, 2014 at 4:12am · Edited · Like · 1 Jacqui Kendall i cant see how DNA could possibly come from items that had been put in boot, didnt Gerry have to fly back to england to collect some of her DNA as there was none anywhere to be found in portugal? May 23, 2014 at 7:58am · Like · 4 Diane Winch Didnt know he flew back home for DNA of Maddies have you a link to that please May 23, 2014 at 8:41am · Like Jason Mills Jacqui how can you say there was no DNA from Madeleine to be found in Portugal? They were there on holiday!! Madeleine's DNA would have been all over clothes she had worn and toys she had played with while there. Including the favourite toy of hers called "cuddle cat"!!! The very same favourite toy that Kate washed!! Why on earth would a parent supposedly grieving the loss of a child,wash said child's favourite toy? May 23, 2014 at 9:07am · Like · 2 Diane Winch Summary of Verifiable Facts Kate McCann carried the soft toy "Cuddle Cat" constantly after Madeleine's disappearance and was rarely photographed without it. She eventually washed the toy on 12th July, 2007 - 70 days after Madeleine disappeared. She recorded in her diary that she had washed the toy because it had become "filthy" and "smelly." The sniffer dogs arrived in Praia da Luz on 30th July - 18 days after Kate washed the soft toy. In an interview with Oprah Winfrey, Kate confirmed these details and added that Cuddle Cat was "always" being washed May 23, 2014 at 9:33am · Like · 1 Jacqui Kendall so why did Gerry have to come back to get her pillow case if there was DNA of maddies there you would think there would have been plenty of her DNA as you say but if he didnt come bk for her pillow case then what was the reason? May 23, 2014 at 9:49am · Edited · Like · 1 Louise Lucas No hairbrush and kate said they all shared a toothbrush. May 23, 2014 at 9:46am · Like · 1 Jacqui Kendall also Diane the pink blanket that was pictured in the photos in the file was on maddies bed when oprah said to kate words to the effect you hoped the abductor will give her her pink blanket, why didnt kate correct her and say the pink blanket wasnt taken? May 23, 2014 at 9:47am · Like · 1 Jacqui Kendall Louise Lucas i cant get my head around the 3 children sharing 1 toothbrush thats not very good parenting imo especially as they were doctors yukkk! May 23, 2014 at 9:53am · Like · 3 Jason Mills So a family of five go on holiday together and we are expected to believe that there is absolutely no DNA to be found from just one of them! This case being Madeleine!! And please Louise....to say there was "no hairbrush" is ridiculous! You can't honestly believe that parents taking three young children,all of which had ample amounts of hair,did not take any hairbrushes or at least one hairbrush to keep the children's hair tidy! May 23, 2014 at 10:02am · Like Jacqui Kendall well they said there was only 1 toothbrush for the 3 kids so it doesnt sound like they took much care of the kids May 23, 2014 at 10:09am · Like · 1 Jason Mills That being said jacqui if you took your kids on holiday,realised when you arrived that somehow you had forgotten to pack enough tooth brushes and/or indeed hairbrushes,wouldn't you buy some more from the resort where you are staying? I'm Pretty sure tooth and hair brushes are as readily available on holiday as they are here at home! May 23, 2014 at 10:12am · Edited · Like Louise Lucas As far as I can remember there was not any hair found on the brush. Must read up again been too long at the oscar trial x x x May 23, 2014 at 10:21am · Like · 2 Jason Mills Lol we can all be forgiven for being bamboozled by the whole thing including the oscar trial!! There are many many factors to take in in both cases and you can be forgiven for getting bits intertwined and even mixed up between each x May 23, 2014 at 10:24am · Like · 2 Louise Lucas Lol I am oscar had an open window intruder, he has dogs, people heard crying, police moved things around balconies curtains my head is spinning around like an owl May 23, 2014 at 10:51am · Like · 2 Lesley-ann Shand Diane Winch i may not understand the above op......but i do understand the files and i trust the dogs findings... May 23, 2014 at 11:05am · Like · 1 Jacqui Kendall oh course i would Jason but thats me they obviously didnt or they have lied about the toothbrushes and id like to know why May 23, 2014 at 11:16am · Edited · Like · 1 Jason Mills As would we all jacqui x May 23, 2014 at 11:33am · Like · 1 Diane Winch Well i don't trust there findings and nor does Scotland Yard or the Portuguese police and the scientist who examine them May 23, 2014 at 1:42pm · Like Jason Mills The Portuguese have done a thorough and proper investigation Diane. Unlike the clowns down at the yard with their constant dead end "leads" involving people who are either dead or in no way connected to the case whatsoever!! SY have clutched at so many short straws it's unbelievable!! One other thing that's been annoying me is the fact that had any other parents gone out and left 3 kids on their own and one came to harm while said parents where out partying,those parents would be held accountable and be arrested and charged with child neglect. They would then have the remaining children taken into care!! Why are these two cretins so bloody untouchable and different to other parents? May 23, 2014 at 2:03pm · Edited · Like · 2 Louise Lucas Did you know about Jill dando case well that was handled well ...not May 23, 2014 at 2:07pm · Like · 2 Jason Mills I didn't follow the case of Jill dando as closely but her case was another cover up. May 23, 2014 at 2:14pm · Like · 2 Louise Lucas Redwoods case Jason x x xxwink wink May 23, 2014 at 2:17pm · Like · 4 Jason Mills Pretty much says it all lol x May 23, 2014 at 2:27pm · Like · 2 Louise Lucas I am hoping against hope that redwood is a lump of coal turning into a little diamond. Slowly edging towards the truth. I think he is a lot more clever than he lets on. Fingers crossed x May 23, 2014 at 2:30pm · Like · 3 Jason Mills I and many others I'm sure will second that Louise! x May 23, 2014 at 2:34pm · Like · 2 Margaret Mckell Don't you think it's strange Diane to go on holiday and the apartment to be scrubbed that clean there was no DNA evidence of Madeleine there ! Imagine having to go back to England to get DNA of your daughter ! But then that must sound ok in your world May 23, 2014 at 2:38pm · Like · 1 Gwen James They have very efficient domestic staff! May 23, 2014 at 2:41pm · Edited · Like · 2 Margaret Mckell Wish they would come and give my house the once over lol May 23, 2014 at 2:43pm · Like · 1 Diane Winch They didn't go back to England to get DNA they got it from the apartment provide a link that they went to England to get DNA Margaret May 23, 2014 at 2:45pm · Like Margaret Mckell You are obviously skimming over the police files ! You are picking out bits that you want to believe. I am not doing your dirty work. Go and look yourself and then come back and have a proper debate with ALL the facts. You honestly are making yourself look silly posting these posts. May 23, 2014 at 2:47pm · Like · 2 Diane Winch Sorry but unless i have proof i wont change my mind and i don't mind looking silly May 23, 2014 at 3:08pm · Like Jacqui Kendall Diane Winch they told us they left the kids alone do you believe that they are telling the truth? May 23, 2014 at 3:20pm · Edited · Like · 1 Margaret Mckell The proof is all there to be researched in the police files ! Go an take a couple of weeks out and read them May 23, 2014 at 3:21pm · Like · 1 Jason Mills Diane....no-one is looking silly. We all have differing beliefs and theories as to what happened,and each to their own and their prerogative to believe what they wish! However you will find the majority here believe that the parents are hiding something. You just have to look at all the discrepancies in their forever differing version of events! Then there's of course the 48 questions that Kate did not answer. If a parent has lost a child and is so adamant that they want to help with finding that child,they would do anything in their power to help locate said child. That includes co-operating fully with the investigation? If the parents were innocent they would have answered all of those questions. The days after Madeleine went missing these two went jogging FFS!!! Yes....JOGGING!!! Why the hell would any parent who's child is missing go for a run? They should have been running about doing everything possible to locate Madeleine. Then you take into account their demeanour in the hours and days afterwards! Any parent who's child is missing would be stricken with grief! They would look disheveled and appear that they had not slept at all! These two looked like it was any other normal day!! You obviously have your reasons to believe that the parents had nothing to do with Madeleine's disappearance but I will point you to the fact that they are,even after all this time,saying Madeleine was abducted. Yet there was no shred of proof to suggest an abduction had taken place,nor was there any proof of forced entry via any windows or doors. Which debunks Kate's story of the "shutters being jimmied open"!! I had my reservations at first and thought from the very beginning that there was no way they could be responsible,but having followed the case as closely as possible I have changed my opinion. May 23, 2014 at 3:21pm · Like · 4 Gwen James That almost reads like a rehearsed sales pitch.. May 23, 2014 at 3:36pm · Like · 1 Jason Mills Rehearsed Gwen.....no!! Facts.....very much so. And I'm quite capable of writing down my thoughts and opinions without practice,or indeed "rehearsal" as you pointed out! If you are offended by anything I post here,all I can say is tough. Don't read it!! Ooops too late. May 23, 2014 at 3:41pm · Edited · Like · 2 Gwen James You could give the lecture in ten simple bullet points these days...on an overhead projector one slide long.. May 23, 2014 at 3:46pm · Like Stella Mcnaught Blimey am i on the James Winch talk show?? May 23, 2014 at 3:48pm · Like Gwen James What about an acronym for easy teaching? May 23, 2014 at 3:48pm · Like Jason Mills I don't lecture Gwen. Just post facts end of. Nor do I profess to be something I'm not. I'm quite happy being a postie and cab driver waiting with bated breath for the day when your buddies the mccanns,get their comeuppance. May 23, 2014 at 3:51pm · Like · 5 Jacqui Kendall when gerry was asked about the 15 minute checks he says no we said 30 minutes not 15 , that's like being arrested for kicking someone in the head and then saying no i stabbed them as well, he made too much of a point of the 30 minute checks, it is disgusting that they have said they left the children at all "if" thats true, which i dont believe for one minute with no neglect there could be no abduction simple! May 23, 2014 at 3:52pm · Like · 4 Jacqui Kendall have you noticed Jason Diane wont answer certain questions like the neglect rubbish? if she doesn't believe they left the kids then she would be admitting to not believing every thing they have said but if she does then why would someone defend such careless parents maybe she is just trying to stir things up May 23, 2014 at 3:58pm · Like · 3 Jason Mills I know Jacqui I've said all along that let's just say hyperthetically of course,that the parents Are indeed not in any way responsible for Madeleine going missing,they are actually very responsible for what happened because they went out on the jolly with their buddies and left those poor kids alone!! I said also before....why is it that these two are so untouchable and have not been prosecuted for child neglect? May 23, 2014 at 4:02pm · Edited · Like · 3 Jacqui Kendall lets hope what ever hold they have on certain people it all come to an end and they are finally banged up where they belong, they are guilty of something thats for sure May 23, 2014 at 4:04pm · Like · 2 Jason Mills Couldn't agree more. However I believe this will rumble on for some time yet and for all the digging they are doing in Portugal,I don't think they will find her. May 23, 2014 at 4:06pm · Like · 2 Jacqui Kendall no like gerry said find the body and prove we killed her what a thing to say hay! May 23, 2014 at 4:07pm · Like · 2 Jason Mills He said that knowing that she wouldn't be found because it's my belief that they disposed of her body somewhere using the hire car! May 23, 2014 at 4:09pm · Like · 3 Louise Lucas Where's Petra gone?. X May 23, 2014 at 4:14pm · Like Kate Holt yes, where has Petra gone? I can't go to bed till she pops up, I've been awake for hours now May 23, 2014 at 4:29pm · Like · 2 Louise Lucas Loooool kate. X x May 23, 2014 at 4:31pm · Like Kate Holt you might laugh, I am f*ing knackered May 23, 2014 at 4:31pm · Like · 3 Jason Mills Who's petra anyhoo? Lol May 23, 2014 at 4:33pm · Edited · Like · 2 Louise Lucas Go and find that duvet and snuggle down. X x May 23, 2014 at 4:34pm · Like · 1 Diane Winch Jacqui Kendall Williamson summary of Verifiable Facts In response to media reports which suggested that they were to be prosecuted for neglect, the McCanns contacted a firm of lawyers. These lawyers visited them in Portugal, a week after Madeleine's disappearance. The lawyers assured them that their behaviour and system of checks were well within the bounds of reasonable parenting. Child listening services are commonplace in European hotels and are not illegal. Clarence Mitchell has also stated that whilst they bitterly regret their arrangements, they have broken no laws in any country. The McCanns initiated contact with Social Services on their return to England. The McCanns have never been charged with negligence. The Madeleine Foundation failed in an attempt to bring about a private prosecution for neglect against the McCanns. May 23, 2014 at 4:37pm · Like · 1 Kate Holt Diane, I love you honey, but these Verifiable Facts posts are boring as sin. I want to know what YOU yourself think. May 23, 2014 at 4:40pm · Like · 1 Diane Winch I don't think they should have left them and the guilt they must be feeling in doing so must be terrible, there must be millions of parents in this world that have done the same thing and there children have been ok May 23, 2014 at 4:45pm · Edited · Like · 3 Jason Mills There are many verifiable facts!! The main "verifiable fact" is simply the verifiable fact that had they not gone out living it up with their tapas buddies,absolutely none of this would have happened!! Regardless of what lawyers told them and regardless whether or not they committed any crime,in the worlds eyes they have committed the most heinous of parenting crimes by leaving their own flesh and blood alone ,and at a time and age when they couldn't possibly fend for themselves!! It's your prerogative to believe what you believe Diane but in all honesty and seriousness,can you put your hand on your heart and say that they are not directly responsible for what has happened to Madeleine? May 23, 2014 at 4:48pm · Like · 3 Stella Mcnaught Because it was committed in another country and they initiated contact with social services after a petition was initiated against them! May 23, 2014 at 4:53pm · Like · 1 Jacqui Kendall Oh diane I doubt any decent parent has ever left their kids alone you expect people who have serious mental health problems to do that but then Kates mental health does actually need to be looked at and as for anyone saying they did nothing wrong I know a social worker that says different if I'd left my kids alone and anything happened my children would be taken away from me. In fact when my ex husband beat me up I was told if I didn't take them away from the situation they would be taken off me so that sounds like a right load of bs to me please show me some real proof of that cos there is no social worker or lawyer would say that they did nothing wrong! Gerry said it was a social worker then he changed it to a police officer and there is no proof any where, and they might have suffered but as far as I'm concerned good they deserve to suffer for what they have done they are not fit parents also show me one person who is educated that has left their child at home alone! May 23, 2014 at 5:02pm · Like · 2 Jason Mills Leaving young children alone and them being ok does not make it a right and proper thing to do!! If they are suffering any guilt they sure as hell don't look like they are. Having seen pictures like the one taken at goodison park Everton where they're both having a right laugh! There are many more pictures and footage of such jovial behaviour and this from people who are missing a daughter!! Forgive me for saying but I don't believe they harbour a shred of guilt for what's happened at all!!! May 23, 2014 at 5:04pm · Like · 3 Jacqui Kendall The youtube video of gerry joking and laughing on the balcony only days after she vanished says it all as far as I'm concerned ok when we loose some one to death we still have sense of humour at times cos we know where they are but they didn't supposedly so that video shows me if he can laugh so soon after she is dead and he knew it! May 23, 2014 at 5:24pm · Like · 3 Diane Winch I have seen sleeping children left in cars while parents go to the shops and mums that pop next door to chat to there neighbors while there children are sleeping May 23, 2014 at 5:39pm · Like · 1 Jacqui Kendall well did you not think of reporting that diane cos i think that is disgusting and i think your a liar show us the proof lol May 23, 2014 at 5:42pm · Edited · Like Jacqui Kendall like i said last night its meds and bed time love May 23, 2014 at 5:42pm · Like Jason Mills Yes but Diane......those parents weren't out all night boozing and the likelihood of anything happening to those children is so remote,especially the ones locked safely in a car in a very busy public place! But again they take that chance at their own peril!! May 23, 2014 at 5:42pm · Like · 2 Jacqui Kendall still bad tho leaving kids in a car, i would have reported it but in diane and the mccanns world its all fine they seem spaced out to me lol May 23, 2014 at 5:47pm · Like · 1 Stella Mcnaught Oh here you are Diane Winch Chelle Welch found the link you were so keen to get on my post,didn't realise you were on another thread causing disruption as usual! May 23, 2014 at 5:47pm · Like · 2 Louise Lucas I got a headache x May 23, 2014 at 5:52pm · Like · 2 Jacqui Kendall she has them every time someone provides a link ha ha May 23, 2014 at 5:53pm · Like · 2 Diane Winch Where did i say it was right to leave a child sleeping in a car or sleeping in an apartment you have got that wrong if you think i am ok with it Jacqui Kendall Williamson May 23, 2014 at 6:52pm · Like Diane Winch I am only debating with them Stella Mcnaught May 23, 2014 at 6:54pm · Like · 1 Jason Mills I think the vibe we are getting Diane is that you believe what the mccann's did was perfectly acceptable!! It was far from it I'm my own honest opinion!! Any parent who leaves children alone should be held accountable should any harm come to those children! Something the mccanns have not been. May 23, 2014 at 6:55pm · Like · 1 Stella Mcnaught Diane Winch you are not debating with anyone,you are argumentative,obstructive and only here to derail any true debate with your "show me a link" mantra,give it up now cos you really are quite boring and don't bother to reply cos unlike you i have better things to do..such as going to bed! May 23, 2014 at 7:01pm · Like · 5 Chris Roberts Stella, me too and I would rather stick pins in my eyeballs. May 23, 2014 at 8:27pm · Like Chris Roberts However, as Diane is SO fond of the myth site lunacy, here's something that for some reason isn't on there. Re "The lawyers assured them that their behaviour and system of checks were well within the bounds of reasonable parenting." The lawyers were in fact a barrister and a legal executive who had flown out to help them set up their company and were therefore in their employ, very far from being impartial. Or, one could argue that as apparent experts in company law, they may have skipped over the bits about child abuse in law school and their opinion is thus no more valid than my own, which is that any parent who leaves three babies alone while they're out on the piss should be locked up and their children put into safe care. It could also be argued that thinking it essential to draft in a barrister to set up a simple limited company is decidedly odd unless you intended something that would not be what it was purported to the public to be. The history of the last seven years has shown us that the £20 grand or so the McScams spent on hurriedly setting up a company that an honest man could do for £100 was money well spent. May 23, 2014 at 8:42pm · Edited · Like Lorraine Holden http://www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Im-home-Three-year-old... May 23, 2014 at 8:44pm · Like Chris Roberts "reckless mother who left her three-year-old son alone in the house for over an hour was arrested for neglect after the distressed toddler rang 999 and told police: ‘I’m home alone’. "She was arrested and her son was taken into temporary care with social services." Strange isn't it because when all's said and done this was clearly "within the bounds of responsible parenting". Even more strange when this mother had only left a child capable of using a phone and not also two babes in arms. May 23, 2014 at 8:54pm · Edited · Like · 3 Jacqui Kendall well Diane Winch i do hope you reported these poor children in cars alone if not then you really dont care about kids which makes me wonder if you are being paid to try and convince everyone of the mccanns innocence well if so they are paying you far too much because it isnt working May 24, 2014 at 1:45am · Like · 1 Lorraine Holden Diane Winch The report clearly states that it is the specific regions of 19 markers that makes her profile UNIQUE Above ALL Others. ... and out of those 19 , 15 were identified.... 15 out of 19 which are Unique to her - or using the wording in the report - Unique above ALL others. May 24, 2014 at 1:49am · Like · 3 Jacqui Kendall The whole point of a genetic fingerprint, is that it's unique to an individual. If you read Lowes report, it says that madeleine's profile from the pillowcase is a unique combination of markers from Kate and Gerry, unique in that it is even significantly different from the closest living person, that being Amelie. It's the combination of markers that's important. If any of the DNA came from the parents, it would have to be both parents to get that combination and then the software analysis would state this. You just can't accidentally get a bit of Kate's DNA and a bit of Gerry's DNA, just at the marker sites that Madeleine inherited. It's impossible May 24, 2014 at 1:52am · Like · 1 Lorraine Holden Diane.. her DNA would or should have been on just about everything the family had with them. The probability of her DNA getting into that car given the circumstances is extremely high, yet it’s suggested it wasn’t hers but 3 to 5 totally random peoples DNA ? …. The truth is, it’s absolutely ridiculous to suggest that her DNA couldn’t have gotten into that car. Show me a scientist that says it’s impossible that none of Madeleine’s DNA could have gotten in that vehicle and I’ll show you a liar. The question is, given that it was found as a result of highly trained dogs specifically trained in finding human remains and decomposition , how did biological fluid belonging to someone who is missing get there? -- And if someone comes back and says it wasn’t fluid, like KM has stated …. According to the report they “ weren’t able to attribute this to a particular body fluid” May 24, 2014 at 2:04am · Like · 4 Louise Lucas Good post Lorraine. It's just as important what wasn't in the apartment as well as what was. It was found in an odd place in the car, not just the boot in general but under the wheel well?. May 24, 2014 at 3:55am · Like · 2 Gwen James How did they stuff Madeleine in the wheel well please? May 24, 2014 at 4:18am · Like · 1 Chelle Welch I read somewhere (and i will go and find the link myself, not demand someone find it for me) that both Madeleine and the twins where made "ward of court" due to the "neglect" the McCanns claimed they showed on the evening of the 3rd. Has anyone else read this? May 24, 2014 at 4:19am · Like · 1 Jacqui Kendall i no maddie was made a WOC but not sure about the twins May 24, 2014 at 4:22am · Like · 1 Lorraine Holden Bodily fluids from Madeleine got into the wheel well Gwen,No Chelle Welch not heard that one x May 24, 2014 at 4:23am · Like · 1 Gwen James That is just not true! They didn't play musical corpses either. May 24, 2014 at 4:25am · Like Jason Mills And what evidence do you have that suggests the contrary Gwen? May 24, 2014 at 4:29am · Like · 1 Louise Lucas Not stuff the body in the wheel well lol. The fluids which amaral said may have been frozen. Although saying that ,I have the exact same car. In the boot are 2 folded down seats which can be popped up to change it to a 7 seater. These can be removed giving space under the boot carpet. May 24, 2014 at 4:32am · Like · 1 Gwen James I don't have evidence to prove the former Jason. May 24, 2014 at 4:47am · Like Gwen James Don't ask me to draw conclusions from non evidence, I will leave that to the theorists! May 24, 2014 at 4:48am · Like Chris Roberts Gwen, Snr Amaral explains it all very well in his excellent book "The Truth of the Lie". Have you read it? Highly recommended reading. May 24, 2014 at 4:51am · Like · 1 Jason Mills The dogs did find evidence however Gwen!! Or are you suggesting that the dogs were wrong? May 24, 2014 at 4:54am · Like · 2 Gwen James Snr Amaral is a corrupt liar Chris, I read it in his book. I'm giving the dogs a rest for today they are boring when folk don't want to listen. May 24, 2014 at 4:59am · Like · 1 Chris Roberts Gwen, in which case and as I have considered all along, you are quite simply a shill only intent on diverting at all costs from the truth. Snr Amaral's book is above all else simply a distillation of the PJ files, drawing the only logical and possible conclusions from those files. Goncalo Amaral is an honest and honourable man and I personally take exception to such as you libeling his good name. Your heroes the McCanns don't like it either and they will very shortly be ripped a second ring piece in the libel court for having the temerity and rank stupidity to challenge it. My fervent hope is that Goncalo counter claims and takes the odious couple for every penny they have scammed from a gullible public, a public which people like you have assisted them in defrauding. If you're really looking at "corrupt liars" then I suggest that you begin by looking at who is proven to have lied from around 10pm on 3rd May 2007. You have quite enough to choose from. May 24, 2014 at 5:12am · Like · 2 Jason Mills You find the dogs "boring" Gwen? Are they boring to you because you know for a fact that these dogs found evidence that you don't agree with. Evidence that these dogs are meticulously and specifically trained to find? Had the dogs been weeks old puppies I'd be in agreement with you that they were unreliable but they were far from it!! And Chris is correct when he says that mr Amaral's book is a testament to what the PJ and the dogs found! I refer you to something you friend Diane said about "verifiable fact".a very big verifiable fact is the fact these dogs found what they were supposed to find and been trained to find. Is that correct or not Gwen? May 24, 2014 at 5:35am · Edited · Like · 2 Louise Lucas What would amaral achieve by telling lies?. May 24, 2014 at 5:22am · Like · 1 Chris Roberts "Not as bad as the night we found her" is the odious Gerald's most telling comment and of course, personal gaff. Unfortunately it does kind of suggest an accidental death which goes against my own personal theory of a violent end perpetrated by her "parents" but I can live with that. May 24, 2014 at 5:23am · Like · 1 Gwen James I will take that as a compliment Chris. I have only ever been a truth seeker, sorry the bullshit doesn't sink into my head, it's very choosy at what it believes. May 24, 2014 at 5:44am · Like · 2 Gwen James The dogs come in first place of my acronym as the most daft as in D for daft. May 24, 2014 at 5:47am · Like · 1 Chris Roberts Gwen , if the "bullshit" did sink into your head, it would find a perfectly suitable home because you're full of it. May 24, 2014 at 5:48am · Edited · Like · 4 Gwen James You are clearly entitled to say that and your opinion of my beliefs is none of my business! But it's about the truth not me I say.. May 24, 2014 at 5:50am · Like · 1 Jason Mills So you believe the dogs were reliable and correct Gwen? Or do we associate you with the same "acronym" "D for daft" because if you or anyone else take it upon themselves to discredit these animals who are so specifically and specially trained to do a job that they do almost on a daily basis,you are clearly "D" May 24, 2014 at 5:51am · Like · 1 Gwen James If you like haha. I'll actually give it my bra size for you..Deluded and Daft. May 24, 2014 at 5:58am · Like · 2 Chris Roberts Gwen, if the truth was a barn door and your arse was nailed to it, you still couldn't find it. To get to the truth requires an open mind and your mind and that of the other shills is locked tight. You really should ask yourself the very simple question. Why out of all the crimes committed have the McCanns attracted SO much attention ? A simple case of a child being abducted by person or persons unknown ? May 24, 2014 at 6:03am · Edited · Like Gwen James Because they have been idolised in the name of hate. May 24, 2014 at 6:04am · Like · 1 Lisa Edington Are you lot playing nice?!! xx May 24, 2014 at 6:10am · Like · 4 Gwen James May 24, 2014 at 6:13am · Like Gwen James Laughter really is the best medicine Lisa. May 24, 2014 at 6:14am · Like · 3 Chris Roberts Gwen, not even close. It was because they were caught lying from the outset and people like me, Tony Bennet and originally the now Carter ucked media noticed it too. Of course, social media is the nightmare the McCanns can never silence. May 24, 2014 at 6:16am · Edited · Like · 1 Chris Roberts Lisa, of course we are. May 24, 2014 at 6:16am · Edited · Like · 2 Gwen James Hate is something no one can silence in another. May 24, 2014 at 6:17am · Like · 2 Jason Mills I'm on board playing nice now since Gwen mentioned her bra size lol May 24, 2014 at 6:19am · Like · 5 Louise Lucas JASON...restrain yourself Psml looooooolx x May 24, 2014 at 6:25am · Like · 3 Lorraine Holden Whose the big tit lol,we had Willie's last time May 24, 2014 at 6:57am · Like · 5 Louise Lucas She will use it as a catapult to get us May 24, 2014 at 7:00am · Like · 4 Gwen James OSBH.. May 24, 2014 at 7:12am · Like · 1 Gwen James Bras are completely overrated though. May 24, 2014 at 7:13am · Like · 3 Lorraine Holden Over sized bra hook? May 24, 2014 at 7:13am · Like · 1 Lisa Edington pmsl May 24, 2014 at 7:13am · Like · 2 Gwen James Over shoulder boulder holder May 24, 2014 at 7:14am · Like · 3 Lisa Edington hahahahaha Gwen May 24, 2014 at 7:14am · Like · 2 Lorraine Holden Pmsl Gwen James x May 24, 2014 at 7:18am · Like · 1 Jason Mills OMG the bank holiday is upon us!! We've descended unto filth lmao May 24, 2014 at 7:19am · Like · 4 Hayley Benson Id love to know how much your being paid diane ? May 24, 2014 at 7:52am · Like · 1 Jan Bones Apologies if this has already been explained in the many comments but it's important to understand I think. So simply put, the LCN DNA sample had 37 components. Of these 20 were isolated, This is important as it is not mixed at all. 1 is the allele which contains both parents so that left 19. 15 out of 19 matched Madeleine's DNA and the remaining 4 were too degraded to be analysed. These were unique to Madeleine and did not match her sister Amelie. I think the report from FSS is misleading as there is no doubt about this part of their analysis. Where it gets confusing for some people, is that Lowe goes on to say about certain people sharing the same DNA alleles and that it's not possible to identify the bodily fluid. I'm a caucasian European so I may well match too but this is not relevant. What is relevant is that the chances of it not being Madeleine's DNA is millions to 1. It would make a mockery of DNA analysis if this were not the case. There would be no point in doing it. May 24, 2014 at 10:14am · Like · 6 Chris Roberts Hayley, do you have a link to how much Diane's being paid? May 24, 2014 at 10:17am · Like · 1 Kate Holt enough with the shills!!! May 24, 2014 at 10:26am · Like Chris Roberts Kate, do you have a link to there being enough of the shiils? May 24, 2014 at 10:29am · Like · 1 Maria Anderson Very well said Jason mills and jan bones. May 24, 2014 at 10:47am · Like · 5 Gwen James I read that as Mills and Boon then. May 24, 2014 at 11:55am · Edited · Like · 4 Chris Roberts http://www.millsandboon.co.uk/... Romance, fiction books and ebooks from Mills & Boon Mills and Boon has grown to become the UK's... MILLSANDBOON.CO.UK May 24, 2014 at 11:52am · Like · 1 · Remove Preview Jason Mills Oh I'm one big bonus me Gwen lol May 24, 2014 at 11:52am · Like Chris Roberts ol' Skate's book might even be re-published in the fiction category so I heard. They might need to "spice up" page 129 a bit though, a little more detail on torn genitals could be in order. Maybe David Payne could assist? May 24, 2014 at 11:54am · Like Gwen James You are quite sick. May 24, 2014 at 11:56am · Like · 1 Maria Anderson LOL May 24, 2014 at 11:57am · Like Chris Roberts Gwen, I didn't write page 129 of the odious Skate's book, she did as a "loving and concerned parent." May 24, 2014 at 11:57am · Like · 1 Gwen James What a disturbing connection to make. May 24, 2014 at 11:59am · Like · 1 Kate Holt Mills and boon? No that's you and Gary!! May 24, 2014 at 12:01pm · Edited · Like · 1 Gwen James of all the pages in the book you are connecting with paedophillia references while also thinking about romance? May 24, 2014 at 12:01pm · Like · 2 Chris Roberts Gwen oh I couldn't agree more and it is more likely to have been a memory for her than anything to do with her admittedly fertile imagination. May 24, 2014 at 12:01pm · Like Chris Roberts Gwen, like I said, I didn't write it May 24, 2014 at 12:01pm · Like Jason Mills May I point out and declare right now that although I have the same surname,I have absolutely no connection to these books!! May 24, 2014 at 12:02pm · Like · 4 Gwen James No, it's how you present it that's worrying not the context in which it was written. May 24, 2014 at 12:03pm · Like · 1 Chris Roberts Jason, that's cool because I have absolutely NO connection with Bram Stoker either. May 24, 2014 at 12:03pm · Like · 1 Chris Roberts Gwen, the context it was written is the context it was written. I know of no mother who could imagine such specifics. Maybe she just did it to tittilate some of her even less savoury friends? I wold be prepared to bet that Paynes copy's got sticky pages. May 24, 2014 at 12:06pm · Edited · Like · 1 Gwen James Do you jerk off to these ideas Chris? May 24, 2014 at 12:07pm · Like · 1 Chris Roberts Gwen, certainly not because I am a born romantic with a love of women. Don't let your own strange imagination run away with you, you reveal too much of yourself. May 24, 2014 at 12:11pm · Edited · Like Gwen James Indeed! May 24, 2014 at 12:12pm · Like · 2 Jason Mills Gwen you total tease!!! Mentioning your bra size and jerking off in the same thread!!! May 24, 2014 at 12:13pm · Like · 3 Chris Roberts Most odd that you appear to defend page 129. Why is that? May 24, 2014 at 12:14pm · Like Chris Roberts Jason, Changing the subject completely I have some really beautiful Fresian cows looking over my garden hedge. May 24, 2014 at 12:17pm · Like · 2 Gwen James Found the context of you posting it a bit inappropriate that's all. The comment in the book was a mother speaking of nightmare thoughts. When I read it it made me really upset and I read it for what it was, raw emotion. Dissect it if you wish but I would rather pretend I didn't hear it then use it for a glory moment of reference personally. May 24, 2014 at 12:19pm · Like · 3 Kate Holt I agree with gwen, I think it's very normal to have those kind of thoughts in her situation. I wouldn't have amended it though. Taking it out looks suspicious May 24, 2014 at 12:21pm · Like · 1 Gwen James It was not my intention. May 24, 2014 at 12:22pm · Like · 1 Chris Roberts Gwen, remember that bullshit you're so fond of? "The comment in the book was a mother speaking of nightmare thoughts. " .. is a prime and perfect example. The other strange thing is a parent providing an "opinion" of "genital perfection". I don't know any parents who would have that opinion either way. As Ratbag says, it looks suspicious to have taken it out because if after all it was just "nightmare thoughts", there would be no reason to remove it. May 24, 2014 at 12:28pm · Edited · Like · 1 Chris Roberts Maybe it was just another Gerry McScam "marketing ploy" ? May 24, 2014 at 12:26pm · Like Gwen James Maybe you are just a bit obsessed.. May 24, 2014 at 12:30pm · Like · 1 Chris Roberts Gwen, my only obsession is the search for truth, you really should try it sometime, it might just set you free. May 24, 2014 at 12:31pm · Like · 1 Gwen James If it only might then you have a problem May 24, 2014 at 12:34pm · Like · 1 Chris Roberts Gwen, I have no problems in my life at all. I don't beg for money and I don't bury dead children. I also haven't started a spurious libel case which is going to bite me in the arse and the counter claim will leave me penniless. All in all, I know who I'd much rather not be. May 24, 2014 at 12:42pm · Like · 2 Gwen James Rum in that coffee? May 24, 2014 at 12:52pm · Like Kate Holt Brandy and hot choc for me please Gwen! May 24, 2014 at 12:53pm · Like · 1 Chris Roberts Gwen, as much as I might occasionally portray otherwise, I rarely drink. In fact, the Christmas booze remains virtually untouched. So is meths expensive these days? May 24, 2014 at 12:54pm · Like Kate Holt Antifreeze is my recommendation! May 24, 2014 at 12:56pm · Like Chris Roberts Nah... antifreeze is lethal and we do need pros and shills to play with after all. May 24, 2014 at 12:57pm · Like Lorraine Holden Rum and hot choc please Gwen James,have you put your bra back on yet girlie lol May 24, 2014 at 12:57pm · Like · 1 Chris Roberts PULLEASE put your bra back on, i have a weak stomach. May 24, 2014 at 12:58pm · Like · 1 Gwen James It never went on Lorraine May 24, 2014 at 1:01pm · Like · 1 Lorraine Holden Good girl hang em.loose lol May 24, 2014 at 1:02pm · Like · 2 Kate Holt I'm taking mine off too. Ahhhh that's better May 24, 2014 at 1:02pm · Like · 2 Lorraine Holden Mines gone too just need that rum now Gwen and were ready to party May 24, 2014 at 1:02pm · Like · 3 Gwen James Palm pushes to keep them pert May 24, 2014 at 1:04pm · Edited · Like · 3 Kate Holt I can still pass the pencil test! May 24, 2014 at 1:04pm · Like · 3 Lorraine Holden Mine are pert there silicone lol May 24, 2014 at 1:07pm · Edited · Like · 1 Kate Holt Really? May 24, 2014 at 1:06pm · Like · 1 Lorraine Holden Yes bought and paid for false has the McCann's abduction May 24, 2014 at 1:07pm · Like · 2 Kate Holt You ARE a sex kitten!! May 24, 2014 at 1:08pm · Like · 1 Lorraine Holden I know lol.x May 24, 2014 at 1:10pm · Like · 1 Jason Mills Everyone to Lorraine's lol May 24, 2014 at 1:26pm · Like · 4 Lorraine Holden Calm down boys lol x May 24, 2014 at 1:34pm · Like · 1 Kate Holt Mine are all natural and, apart from my ears, arguably my best feature! May 24, 2014 at 1:36pm · Like · 3 Lorraine Holden Show off lol May 24, 2014 at 1:41pm · Like · 2 Jason Mills It's at this point in gonna need to see photographic evidence!! Lmao May 24, 2014 at 1:52pm · Like · 3 Louise Lucas I'm older mine have gone south. Ooooooh have you ever tried one of those bras from poundland?. Feels like you wearing ya tights on ya chest.....most unpleasant May 24, 2014 at 2:29pm · Like · 1 Lorraine Holden Jason Mills a few of us did tits in a mitt for cancer research popped them up on our fb wall you missed a treat,Sorcha's were massive lol May 24, 2014 at 3:23pm · Like · 2 Kate Holt Sorcha's tits are fabulous. May 24, 2014 at 3:25pm · Like · 1 Chris Roberts So are mine. May 24, 2014 at 3:35pm · Like · 2 Lorraine Holden No Chris you are a tit and I've got a link somewhere to.prove it lol x May 24, 2014 at 3:36pm · Like · 1 Kate Holt I've seen that link. and yes, it proves it 100% May 24, 2014 at 3:37pm · Like · 1 Gwen James What are the other halfs names for them?..one has funbags here.. May 24, 2014 at 3:41pm · Like · 2 Lorraine Holden Puppies May 24, 2014 at 3:44pm · Like · 2 Kate Holt always tits May 24, 2014 at 3:45pm · Like · 3 Gwen James I say baps haha May 24, 2014 at 3:46pm · Like · 2 Kate Holt I say boobs mostly, I think. I like to say breasts sometimes. depends on the situation. May 24, 2014 at 3:47pm · Like · 1 Lorraine Holden Kate you need to.name them get with the program lol. May 24, 2014 at 3:47pm · Like · 1 Kate Holt ok, mine are called BOLLOCKS and WTF May 24, 2014 at 3:48pm · Like · 3 Jason Mills God damn it!!!! What a time to be out on the lash with my mates!!! Ok....who's getting their "funbags" out first? Lmao. May 24, 2014 at 3:50pm · Like Kate Holt I vote Chris goes first May 24, 2014 at 3:51pm · Like · 1 Jason Mills I second that vote. Chris Roberts will be a DD for sure lol May 24, 2014 at 3:51pm · Like Jason Mills Sorry Chris Roberts lol May 24, 2014 at 3:52pm · Like Lorraine Holden Lol poor Chris he always gets nominated May 24, 2014 at 3:58pm · Like · 2 Kate Holt makes it sound like we are all in the Big Brother House. May 24, 2014 at 3:59pm · Like · 2 Stella Mcnaught I call them babylons!! May 24, 2014 at 4:05pm · Like · 3 Chelle Welch Im a bit jealous here. Impossible to let loose and get that aaahhhh feeling when you have an 18yr old son ariund :0 ( May 24, 2014 at 4:19pm · Like Lorraine Holden Throw him out chelle lol May 24, 2014 at 4:20pm · Like · 1 Chelle Welch Haha unfortunately I have him and a friend watching the footie! Suppose I could always hide under the blanket haha. An ex called mine GG's dont need to tell you ladies why lol x May 24, 2014 at 4:23pm · Like · 2 Kate Holt just take it off through the arm of your top. we all know how to do that, don't we girls? May 24, 2014 at 4:24pm · Like · 3 Kate Holt and Chris Roberts May 24, 2014 at 4:24pm · Like · 1 Petra Johnson Sighhhhhhh another thread of top shelf porn ....... I just look for the posts with the most comments & hey presto ....... It's makes a tantalising , titivating read . A big thanks to Gwen James , Chris Roberts , Kate Holt , & not forgetting Diane Winch for providing the original post . Can We also thank Kate McCann & Gerry for providing such a wide scope of topics to be debated . The couple have inspired so many to seek the truth in so many rare places . Diane will be drowned in cellular material at this rate May 24, 2014 at 5:23pm · Like · 4 Louise Lucas I asked where you were the other day. Missed ya. Thought you went off to help op prepare girl x x May 24, 2014 at 5:26pm · Like · 1 Petra Johnson He doesn't need any help Louise He's as sound as a pound Been dealing with some other scumbags in this world & more corrupt , cover ups on a personal level . Who would have thought hairdressing was a den of demons May 24, 2014 at 5:32pm · Like · 2 Gwen James Do you name yours Petra? May 24, 2014 at 5:34pm · Like · 3 Lorraine Holden Yeah come on Petra what they called May 24, 2014 at 5:41pm · Like · 2 Petra Johnson Name my demons ? ATM it's called an abscess lol Trying to exercise it out with antibiotics May 24, 2014 at 5:41pm · Like · 1 Gwen James demons?..you cant speak of your assets like that! May 24, 2014 at 5:44pm · Like Petra Johnson In the UK there is a Hair Loss industry .......... The public are totally unaware of ! May 24, 2014 at 5:45pm · Like Petra Johnson The Government are aware but do nothing as it keeps the economy a float . May 24, 2014 at 5:47pm · Like Gwen James Hair loss industry? May 24, 2014 at 5:49pm · Like · 1 Jason Mills I'm drink and only read one post!! Oh so this is "Petra"? Lol May 24, 2014 at 5:50pm · Like · 1 Petra Johnson Have you lot been speaking about me , behind my back lol ? Hi Jason Mills May 24, 2014 at 5:51pm · Like · 2 Kate Holt lol. funny Jason!! yes Petra, you might have to scroll back in the last thread, but we said all sorts May 24, 2014 at 5:53pm · Like · 1 Petra Johnson Yup a hair loss industry . It's created in one room & they fix it in another . Then feed the solicitors with personal injury claims . It's big business ! Shampoos & conditioners being the worst . You think of them as harmless ? Not on your Nelly . Lethal bleeders ! May 24, 2014 at 5:55pm · Like · 2 Louise Lucas Yes I asked where you were and Jason said who are you so Petra meet Jason, Jason meet Petra.. X x oooh I used to be a hairdresser Petra. Hope you ok. X x x. May 24, 2014 at 5:55pm · Like · 2 Louise Lucas She is a Pussycat Jason but psss don't mention oscar. W e have been having constructive posts with Diane glad you are back x x. May 24, 2014 at 5:57pm · Like · 2 Petra Johnson Had my head in my own files the last week & made myself ill lol ( My abscess ) I will defend OP to the death Louise As you know lol May 24, 2014 at 5:58pm · Like · 1 Louise Lucas Looool I do . Are you on anti B's x May 24, 2014 at 6:00pm · Like · 1 Gwen James Apparently horse shampoo is good for us immortals hair.. May 24, 2014 at 6:00pm · Like · 2 Kate Holt more importantly Petra, have you removed your bra? It is obligatory tonight, I am afraid. May 24, 2014 at 6:01pm · Like · 4 Kate Holt Gwen, Please don't mention the horses!!! May 24, 2014 at 6:01pm · Like · 3 Gwen James nay bother.. May 24, 2014 at 6:02pm · Like · 3 Petra Johnson Yup , got them today & yes Kate Holt as in bed resting lol May 24, 2014 at 6:02pm · Like · 2 Petra Johnson Robin Stammers has had some great horse shots on his page lol May 24, 2014 at 6:03pm · Like · 3 Kate Holt rolls eyes May 24, 2014 at 6:05pm · Like Petra Johnson Chris Roberts , bless him has been helping me no end & that guy is absolute star . He knows his stuff for sure May 24, 2014 at 6:06pm · Like · 3 Louise Lucas Did I miss bout horses?.x May 24, 2014 at 6:10pm · Like · 1 Petra Johnson It was another thread in another place ...... You had to be there lol May 24, 2014 at 6:13pm · Like · 3 Kate Holt something about massive cocks May 24, 2014 at 6:13pm · Like · 2 Lorraine Holden Stallions Kate both of them lol May 24, 2014 at 6:14pm · Like · 2 Petra Johnson It was a tight finish ! May 24, 2014 at 6:15pm · Like · 1 Kate Holt LOL, Petra May 24, 2014 at 6:16pm · Like · 1 Petra Johnson To be fair I saw nothing May 24, 2014 at 6:17pm · Like Petra Johnson IMO both need to get a grip May 24, 2014 at 6:18pm · Like · 1 Petra Johnson I think my antibiotics have kicked in & I'm having side affects lol May 24, 2014 at 6:20pm · Like Kate Holt wha's occurin? May 24, 2014 at 6:23pm · Like Gwen James having nightmares? May 24, 2014 at 6:25pm · Like Louise Lucas Thinking op is guilty. Seriously Petra. Try and get some rest abscesses are nasty buggers. It takes it out of you. I bet you feel rubbish. X x May 24, 2014 at 6:28pm · Like Jason Mills Well Petra...allow me to put on my finest joey tribianni impression and say......HOW YOU DOIN? Lol xx May 24, 2014 at 9:20pm · Edited · Like · 2 Isabel Oliveira Reads thread. Reads again. Realises the horse thread is really innocent in comparison. Goes to bed in shock ! PS is Jason still alive or has he collapsed in the pub? May 24, 2014 at 9:51pm · Like · 4 Jason Mills I'm alive but only just lol x May 24, 2014 at 10:05pm · Like · 3 Robin Stammers Gwen, in the immortal words of The Sweeney's Jack Regan; "Put them away love" May 25, 2014 at 1:53am · Like · 4
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